White House DENIES bow to king!

I don't understand... This is a problem? I'm confused.

It's a problem in that a bow like that is clearly an show of submission, and the President shouldn't submit to any foreign leader. Basically, he bowed for the king, there was backlash, and so Washington is trying to say that he wasn't actually bowing, but the video taken clearly shows that he was. Obama being taller than the Saudi king has nothing to do with it.
 
If he was meeting Hitler, I'm sure he'd just do the Bellamy salute. You know, as a sign of respect.

The King of Saudi Arabia is a fucking idiot who throws people in jail for criticizing his stupid religion. He doesn't deserve respect and shouldn't be treated as a sane person.
 
He DENIES it?

It's like the Bush administration is back: lying about the obvious.

Don't they know there are videos of this all over the internet that people can seek out? How brazen can they be?

THIS is what makes it a story. Not that Obama was stupid enough to bow, not really even that the media dropped it down the memory hole. But denying that it even happened? lulz

That's what makes it a story. ;)
 
It's a problem in that a bow like that is clearly an show of submission, and the President shouldn't submit to any foreign leader. Basically, he bowed for the king, there was backlash, and so Washington is trying to say that he wasn't actually bowing, but the video taken clearly shows that he was. Obama being taller than the Saudi king has nothing to do with it.

I still don't see why bowing is so bad...
 
I would have bowed. Kings are pretty badass. Some of England's kings were pretty progressive in realizing that government is not greater than the sum of its people said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charter_of_Liberties[/url]

He eliminated the death tax and taxing the military. Bad ass king indeed!
 
Are you insane? 233 years of giving the figurative finger to monarchy worldwide, and you "...don't see why bowing is so bad?"

It was just a gesture to present himself politely. It's not like he's cuffing himself in chains and handing them to the king.
 
It was just a gesture to present himself politely. It's not like he's cuffing himself in chains and handing them to the king.

"Polite" is a greeting, a bow is sign of subservience and isn't required of anybody but subjects.

Edit: As a private citizen, if a king (or queen) told me to bow, I'd flip him off and tell him to put it where the sun don't shine, let alone if I was POTUS, and I try to be a gentleman. My distaste of tyranny outweighs my like of gentlemanly behavior.
 
"Polite" is a greeting, a bow is sign of subservience and isn't required of anybody but subjects.

Edit: As a private citizen, if a king (or queen) told me to bow, I'd flip him off and tell him to put it where the sun don't shine, let alone if I was POTUS, and I try to be a gentleman. My distaste of tyranny outweighs my like of gentlemanly behavior.

Well, I'll be honest in saying that I don't know how the greeting of many cultures are. I often see Japanese people bowing down to each other, and I don't think they're trying to show themselves as being submissive. Perhaps I'm missing the context here, but I never saw bowing as, how I'm see you guys point it out, handing your balls over. Oh well.
 
White House FAIL
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Clearly King Abdullah is the little midget obscured by the man in the foreground.

Oh, and that's Barack Obama's OTHER left hand. People who can't dance have two left feet... presidents with no international diplomacy skills have two left hands. It's very simple.
 
Well, I'll be honest in saying that I don't know how the greeting of many cultures are. I often see Japanese people bowing down to each other, and I don't think they're trying to show themselves as being submissive. Perhaps I'm missing the context here, but I never saw bowing as, how I'm see you guys point it out, handing your balls over. Oh well.

It isn't when you do it as a mutual greeting, but that isn't a typical Western of Mid-Eastern greeting. I have bowed before, I have no problem with the act of bowing in and of itself. In fact, I probably bow more often than most since I try to be a gentleman at all times, but to do it to a foreign monarch because they are a foreign monarch is outrageous.
 
It isn't when you do it as a mutual greeting, but that isn't a typical Western of Mid-Eastern greeting. I have bowed before, I have no problem with the act of bowing in and of itself. In fact, I probably bow more often than most since I try to be a gentleman at all times, but to do it to a foreign monarch because they are a foreign monarch is outrageous.

I can see why you're angry, but I'm still just not really outraged. I guess it's mainly because it seems pointless to care about these little things that mean nothing in the end.
 
I can see why you're angry, but I'm still just not really outraged. I guess it's mainly because it seems pointless to care about these little things that mean nothing in the end.

It isn't that I'm worked up over this, I was worked up a long time ago, this is just something new to add to the list of grievances.
 
It isn't that I'm worked up over this, I was worked up a long time ago, this is just something new to add to the list of grievances.

Right, because bowing down to some idiot is just as bad as making and spending trillions.
 
Right, because bowing down to some idiot is just as bad as making and spending trillions.

No, it isn't, but it still is a grievance. I think it is more of a sign of changing attitudes towards power in this country, not that big of a deal in and of itself. Should it have happened? Absolutely not, but I find the fact that many Americans are defending his bow as a sign that they are willing to accept the ultimate form of big government, and actually willingly bow to it.
 
The point is, it will horrify millions of Americans, and that makes 2012 look brighter every day.
 
Well, I'll be honest in saying that I don't know how the greeting of many cultures are. I often see Japanese people bowing down to each other, and I don't think they're trying to show themselves as being submissive. Perhaps I'm missing the context here, but I never saw bowing as, how I'm see you guys point it out, handing your balls over. Oh well.

I have lived in Japan. Bowing is a submissive action. The higher position you hold, the less angle you bow. I found it embarrassing when a much elder man bowed down low to his younger (inherited wealth) boss.


I think with all the flack Obama is getting over this, next time his handlers will just have him curtsy.
 
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