Life: Where does Ron Paul stand on abortion, specifically when it comes to RAPE?

[evadmurd]

The Government Solution to any problem is usually worse than the problem itself. Government + Pregnancy dont mix.

exactly. the issue is not even about pro-life vs pro-choice. The issue is about government involvement in its legality or prohibition.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

When pressed on this exact issue in an interview by an Iowa newspaper a few months ago, Ron's answer was this:

One might wonder at this point about Paul's position on abortion to save the mother. "In all my years [as an OB-GYN], I never saw a case where the mother needed an abortion to save her life."

The congressman stated he never personally saw it, suggesting it is a rare occurrence, though he never denied the possibility. Paul's next point answers the dangling question there:

"A woman's health care should be a private matter between her and her doctor," Paul explained. "The government shouldn't get in the middle." Bottom line, if a woman really needs an abortion, so be it — at least so far as the federal government is concerned.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Women carry fetuses in their body, not men. Women have the final say, not men.

Or she can not get pregnant.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

My stance: Abortion is murder, even in cases of rape and incest.

 

[mosquitobite]

Being pro life is one thing but I find it tough to swallow all the folks on here stating that a woman has a moral obligation to have her rape baby. Wow... I just don't think this issue is so black and white.

REPEATING my post from page 2:

This is such a red herring argument anymore.

If a woman reports a rape she goes to the hospital for a rape work up. I would assume that they would offer her "Plan B" at that time. Plan B is not an abortion pill (unless you consider not allowing a fertilized egg to implant = abortion). Plan B just makes it so that the uterine lining is inhospitable for implantation.

Now, if it is supposedly "date rape" that she didn't want to press charges for...well personally I don't think it has the same stigma for that child as someone who violently sexually assaults. Still, Plan B is more than available and it doesn't need to even get so far as a full blown fetus with a heartbeat and brain. It's also astronomically CHEAPER.

So you're telling me that a woman who was raped doesn't have a moral responsibility to take plan B as soon as it happens versus waiting for the trauma (body and mind) of an abortion?


And any man who argues for rape to be one of the caveats for a legal abortion had best rethink his position. As others have said, if abortion is outlawed with rape as an exception - look for the # of reports of rape to increase. That alone should make men rethink this - when as I said, women have an option now.

Incest is still one that bothers me, but there really isn't a way for that one to not be proven. (ie, any incest is rape)
And again, the child that is developing is no less a child than you or I were at that stage of development.

 

[mosquitobite]

You're right, there is nothing in place now and this does happen frequently.

I was looking for opinions and discussion on fathers as well as a fetuses rights, if the feds get out of the bedroom/family and leave these matters to the state then there will be states who grant unequal rights to mothers/fathers/fetuses...How would you propose jurisdiction be established?

Philhelm rightly suggests that a determination of when life begins needs to be made, so if conception occurs in state "x" where it has been determined that "life begins at conception" (casual consentual sex unmarried couple) should the fetuses and fathers rights be able to be violated by a mother who chooses to move to state "y" and seek an abortion?

Most state courts now don't grant fathers rights until after birth due to standing federal legislation and a fetus has no rights until birth, so when the decision to give an unborn fetus rights is passed to the state wouldn't it stand to reason that a fathers right to love and care for his offspring would go hand in hand with the declaration of the fetuses life?

I agree, and I'm a STRONG defender of father's rights.