Where did the Ron Paul supporters go?

[wmmonk]

I agree.

Sorry you can't answer the questions, without responding in Donald Trump fashion.
If you're gonna break the guidelines, at least make it worthwhile.
I mean, if you're still trying to kill the liberty movement like you have been the last few years, probably even more than it has been the last few years, your type of posts are exactly the ones to do it. Keep up the solid work!

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Sorry you can't answer the questions, without responding in Donald Trump fashion.
If you're gonna break the guidelines, at least make it worthwhile.
I mean, if you're still trying to kill the liberty movement like you have been the last few years, probably even more than it has been the last few years, your type of posts are exactly the ones to do it. Keep up the solid work!

lulz, troll better

 

[wmmonk]

lulz, troll better

Can you not answer a single question, and instead continue on with low information posts?

I don't think that offering legitimate criticisms of someone is an attack. If anything, we should be looking at details of the what/why now, so that future campaigns don't make the same mistakes.

I mean, I guess you like Donald Trump as a candidate, which is why you respond like he does?

Why don't you support Vermin Supreme?

 

[idiom]

Can you not answer a single question, and instead continue on with low information posts?

I don't think that offering legitimate criticisms of someone is an attack. If anything, we should be looking at details of the what/why now, so that future campaigns don't make the same mistakes.

I mean, I guess you like Donald Trump as a candidate, which is why you respond like he does?

Why don't you support Vermin Supreme?

Nobody likes Donald Trump, but he has enough firepower to tear the GOP a new asshole. Vermin Supreme does not. Rand did not.

Trump is running around the establishment emptying a can of gasoline everywhere. Cheer that on.

Burn it all down.

 

[CPUd]

To be fair, he's really only recently started in on Rand. Before that, we had 4-6 years of this:

In 2012, I had one requirement. Show me you're serious about winning, by attacking Mitt Romney. It never happened.

Ron Paul 2012 should have closed shop the day it agreed to not attack Mitt Romney.

Instead, the campaign helped Mitt Romney by never attacking only him in any state, like they did Perry, Newt, or Santorum. They agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, because they never did.

Ron Paul 2012 helped Mitt Romney defeat Rick Santorum in Michigan, which gave Romney momentum, and taking momentum away from Santorum.

...agreed to help Mitt Romney win the nomination. It's why they attacked Rick Santorum in Michigan, helping MITT ROMNEY win the state.

I have more evidence the campaign outright lied to supporters for 3-4 months, maybe longer, when they agree to not attack Mitt Romney.

No, the campaign was effectively over when it agreed to help Mitt Romney win the nomination back in January, maybe even before Iowa? So, for all of February, March, April, and into May when they were asking (see: LYING to) supporters for more donations, it was all smoke-and-mirrors...so Ron Paul could drop out and start Ron Paul Channel and charge money for it?

If a brokered convention was some magical strategy as they pitched to supporters, the campaign was completely clueless on how to get that done. ESPECIALLY when they agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, before Michigan. At that point, it was basically IMPOSSIBLE, because instead of attacking Mitt, they then ran ads HELPING Mitt Romney defeat Rick Santorum in Michigan.

Dragging supporters along, when they were already working with Romney's campaign on things like the RNC platform, had agreed to not attack Romney (and thus, threw any chance of a brokered convention out the window), ...

When Ron Paul 2012 agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, it ceased being a presidential campaign. AND, it didn't tell supporters of that information, until at/after the RNC.

It wasn't even a presidential campaign, after they agreed to help Mitt Romney by attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan.

Unless you count making agreements with Mitt Romney's campaign to not attack, and NOT letting supporters know that.

Those months they remained in the campaign, despite Ron Paul 2012 already agreeing to not attack only Mitt Romney, and had already helped Mitt Romney win the nomination by attacking only Rick Santorum in Michigan.

We have a campaign that agreed to not attack Mitt Romney no later than February 2012 (and didn't tell supporters), and then helped Mitt Romney win the nomination by running Rick Santorum attack ads in Michigan.

And Doug Wead admitted the campaign agreed to not attack Romney before Michigan and in Michigan because they were afraid of Romney attacking RP.

1) Ron Paul 2012 agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, at least before going into Michigan at the end of February. And never did.

Ron Paul 2012 agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, and instead help Mitt Romney win the nomination by spending over $100K in attack ads against Rick Santorum in Michigan alone.

The only group I know that helped the adversaries was Ron Paul 2012. They made their bed, agreed to not attack Mitt Romney in February 2012, and based on all actions/evidence I have seen, instead helped him win the nomination and made it a smooth sailing nominating process for him.

3) Ron Paul not only agreed to not attack Mitt Romney, but then HELPED him win the nomination in Michigan by using at least $100K of donations from supporters to attack Rick Santorum there. They wasted campaign funds (not that you care, you gave freely) on Rick Santorum attack ads to help Mitt Romney win the nomination.

It is a fact Ron Paul 2012 used over $100,000 in campaign funds to attack Rick Santorum in Michigan, a state Ron Paul had no chance of winning. Why did Ron Paul 2012 use campaign funds to attack Rick Santorum in Michigan (and not in Maine, Virginia, or even Texas)? To help Mitt Romney beat Rick Santorum in that state. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

Why did Ron Paul 2012 use campaign funds to attack Rick Santorum in Michigan (and not in Maine, Virginia, or even Texas)? To help Mitt Romney beat Rick Santorum in that state. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON.

1) Help Mitt Romney win the nomination, by attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan, after his campaign threatened to destroy Ron Paul's name.

2) I have Doug Wead then saying a "brokered convention" was the strategy - how did the campaign help ensure this strategy? By attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan, helping Mitt Romney win it, and then continuing to attack Rick Santorum with his special TV only attack ads, but not one single attack ad aimed only at Romney.

...attacked Rick Santorum in Michigan, helping MITT ROMNEY win the state. Instead of attacking Mitt Romney, helping Rick Santorum win the state which would have furthered the brokered convention idea.

Ron Paul 2012 helped Mitt Romney win the nomination by attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan.

Ron Paul 2012 helped Mitt Romney win the nomination, by repeatedly attacking Rick Santorum in states Rick Santorum could have won, like Michigan.

But, Ron Paul 2012 spent at least $100K running Rick Santorum attack ads in Michigan, helping Mitt Romney win that state.

Romney didn't have anything wrapped up early, until Ron Paul 2012 helped him win Michigan by attacking Rick Santorum in the state.

Yeah, the PCC did help Mitt Romney win the nomination. They did so by wasting supporters' money attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan, instead of Mitt Romney.

Then, on February 28th, Mitt Romney won both Arizona and Michigan. Barely getting a victory over Rick Santorum in Michigan, by 3%, thanks in part to Ron Paul 2012 helping attack Rick Santorum with campaign funds running a TV attack ad against him.

The evidence is clear to anybody with a political background, that the Ron Paul 2012 campaign was not serious about winning, and helped Mitt Romney win the nomination by attacking Rick Santorum in Michigan, and after Michigan until he dropped out.

 

[Wilf]

To be fair, he's really only recently started in on Rand. Before that, we had 4-6 years of this:

I knew it.

 

[wmmonk]

To be fair, he's really only recently started in on Rand. Before that, we had 4-6 years of this:

Those are some awesome posts about Ron Paul 2012, but what about attacking Rand? If anything, those posts show somebody was aware of the failed strategy.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Burn it all down.

What does that mean?

What specific effects do you think Retard's campaign might/will have?

 

[idiom]

What does that mean?

What specific effects do you think Retard's campaign might/will have?

No idea at all. It is spin the bottle, which assuming he is not controlled opposition, then he is uncontrolled opposition. At the least I would hope for civil war within the GOP. At worst he goes full blown dictator and remakes the world, possibly without the USA or Europe as civilizations anymore.

Either way, its actual change. To what? Who cares? I mean I care, but most don't. Most want political revolution, they hope it will be peaceful and lead to something better. But revolution can't be controlled.

 

[undergroundrr]

It's not change.

He's pro-CFR.
He's establishment.
He's more of the same. Possibly his business skills will make him more effective in forwarding the establishment agenda than a stultifying bureaucrat.

 

[singe22]

Still here! No one but Ron Paul!!!!


My theory on Trump is. Nobody wants endorse him. I am not voting for him. Trumps comments would ruin any "Politicians" career if they ever aligned with him. That's what makes it so great. If he gets the nomination and somehow gets the Whitehouse. 4 years of government not growing because both sides refuse to work with him is good medicine for America. During those years maybe it will finally get a serious discussion going on how the political process has issues and that the platform needs to be open to more parties, so we are not just stuck with what the Dems/Rep throw at the country. Most of the people going for office shouldn't be in charge of a garbage can. They don't seek office to serve the people but themselves and $$$. America needs more citizens concerned about politics than what we have now. Clinton or Sanders win will be more of the same. Any other Republican will be more of the same.

 

[Dynasty Masters Universe]

Will Ron Paul supporters vote for Bernie Sanders?

 

[LibertyRevolution]

Will Ron Paul supporters vote for Bernie Sanders?

While I voted for Sanders in the primary, as a vote against Hillary and since none of the GOP were worth my vote, there is no way I would vote for him in the general.

I will be voting libertarian most likely, as I normally do.

 

[DamianTV]

For those that have left, I dont think our individual policies have changed, but we are simply now redirecting our efforts elsewhere. Sprouting up in areas conducive to freedom like the grassroots movement that we are.

The entire Ron Paul movement was not about Ron Paul himself, but the ideas that he supported; our Torchbearer of Freedom.

 

[RJ Liberty]

Will Ron Paul supporters vote for Bernie Sanders?

Yes, I'll be voting for Sanders in the primary. I do not want Hillary to win. I'm likely to vote for the Libertarian Party candidate in the general election.

 

[Lucille]

To be fair, he's really only recently started in on Rand. Before that, we had 4-6 years of this:

Some music for you to stalk by: