Where did the Ron Paul supporters go?

[Krugminator2]

I said years ago on this forum that Rand wouldn't get as many votes as Ron, and that he was driving all of his supporters away. I was laughed at and banned numerous times by the people who thought that all of Rand's sucking up to the establishment would pay off in the long run. It sucks that the movement is dead, but it's very nice to come back and see all of these Randslide homers eat some crow.

I said the same thing numerous times about Rand getting fewer votes, but that was driven by having a Democrat in the race and a stronger field.

Rand did lose a lot of Ron Paul supporters, but not because he was unprincipled. If anything he is too straightforward and honest and doesn't pander enough. He lost people, like yourself, who think Jesse Ventura has something in common with liberty or Ron Paul. Rand, rightly or wrongly, made an effort to repel people who blame the Jews for everything and the government is secretly poisoning them with chemtrails or fluoride or whatever.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

He was for ending the Fed and only offered an audit as a means to wake the sleeping.

 

[Rad]

Hmmm. "Many".

ok. Let's start with 3.

1) ____________
2) ____________
3) ____________

Fill in the blanks?


edit:
in light of the post following, I am now trying to wriggle out of your troller's net.

You could write a book on how the practitioners of Rothbardian Libertarianism made an alliance with white nationalist.

 

[LibertyEagle]

You could write a book on how the practitioners of Rothbardian Libertarianism made an alliance with white nationalist.

You know, this has always made me wonder, so... I know nothing of the organization or even know if there is one by that name. But, what is it about that name that riles everyone so much? The fact that "white" is in it? But, NAACP, La Raza, Black Congressional Caucus, Hispanic Congressional Caucus, et al., are organizations that are race-specific. Why is it alright for them and not for whites?

Is it the "nationalist" part? What about that is so horrible? The opposite of nationalist is globalist. I don't know about you, but I want none of that. Seems to me those who don't care more about their family, community, country, than another is rather suicidal.

 

[Rad]

You know, this has always made me wonder, so... I know nothing of the organization or even know if there is one by that name. But, what is it about that name that riles everyone so much? The fact that "white" is in it? But, NAACP, La Raza, Black Congressional Caucus, Hispanic Congressional Caucus, et al., are organizations that are race-specific. Why is it alright for them and not for whites?

Is it the "nationalist" part? What about that is so horrible? The opposite of nationalist is globalist. I don't know about you, but I want none of that. Seems to me those who don't care more about their family, community, country, than another is rather suicidal.

Libertarians are individualist. Atomist straight from Epicureanism who were hospitable to all. They are really a offshoot of liberalism. It overthrew the conservative order and said that we are all equal (Adam Smith). Tribalism is a form of collectivism.

Now for the average white. Its because of American history from the genocide of the Native Americans, slavery, European Imperialism, Jim Crow, etc. This is white guilt and those groups are effectively using it for their benefit. People of European descent if not created at least promoted this stupid way of organizing people into groups. All those people that you listed I bet have white ancestry. I doubt anyone is a pure blood. I know I have a little Native American ancestry (family pictures and shovel teeth/eagle talons) and possibly African (a census that said a distant aunt was mulatto/black but she was always free). What am I? I'm not 100% white. My skin is white as snow. I can get a decent tan in the summer.

IMPORTANT, READ COMMENTS FROM THIS LINK: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2009/05/30/no-thanks/

Richard Spencer is over at Radix Journal now, guess what it promotes?

 

[Okie RP fan]

I'm really not sure why people are surprised.

Half of Ron Paul's supporters were telling their fellow brethren that Rand wasn't the way to go for months and months. And it was also made known that they wouldn't support him.
The reasons vary, but it shouldn't be a surprise.
This entire time, as I said a year or two ago, should have beeb dedicated to rallying our resources and skills to House and Senate races, both federally and state. Most importantly state and for other local races.

Instead, a bunch of people wasted their money and time on Rand's campaign that honestly wasn't effective. It wasn't even as educational as Ron's was.

Sorry, but just being brutally honest. Whether you agree or not is beyond it.

 

[brandon]

Well I was banned and told not to post here Not sure if that really answers your question... but a lot of us were shunned for questioning anything about Rand's campaign. You could have asked them what they were thinking while they were still here instead telling them all to shut up.

 

[wmmonk]

Well I was banned and told not to post here Not sure if that really answers your question... but a lot of us were shunned for questioning anything about Rand's campaign. You could have asked them what they were thinking while they were still here instead telling them all to shut up.

Seems several in this thread have said this, but I wasn't sure if that's what they were meaning.
Some were "jettisoned", banned, or told not to post, and for what reasons?

 

[CPUd]

Seems several in this thread have said this, but I wasn't sure if that's what they were meaning.
Some were "jettisoned", banned, or told not to post, and for what reasons?

They weren't banned on a whim. Like you, they had multiple warnings to stop undermining the support boards, but doubled down instead.

 

[wmmonk]

They weren't banned on a whim. Like you, they had multiple warnings to stop undermining the support boards, but doubled down instead.

Who is "like you"? And what is your definition of "undermining the support boards"?
It sounds like you know what you're talking about, so what's the history?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Who is "like you"? And what is your definition of "undermining the support boards"?
It sounds like you know what you're talking about, so what's the history?

Dear Butthurt Fellow,

Go crawl into a corner; roll up into a corner, into a ball, and desist.

 

[wmmonk]

Dear Butthurt Fellow,

Go crawl into a corner; roll up into a corner, into a ball, and desist.

Are you talking to CPUd? Or, somebody else? I'm curious, because your post is so off topic and against the guidelines, I can't really follow it.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Are you talking to CPUd? Or, somebody else? I'm curious, because your post is so off topic and against the guidelines, I can't really follow it.

I was implying (now stating matter-of-fact-like) that you were a Ron person in '08 who was NOT a libertarian.

Hence you constantly attack Rand, you....

....in the interest of civility, I'll leave it there.

 

[wmmonk]

I was implying (now stating matter-of-fact-like) that you were a Ron person in '08 who was NOT a libertarian.

Hence you constantly attack Rand, you....

....in the interest of civility, I'll leave it there.

I constantly attack Rand? Examples please?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I constantly attack Rand? Examples please?

No, I'm not going to feed the troll.

 

[bubbleboy]

i think we have our answer.

 

[wmmonk]

No, I'm not going to feed the troll.

Rand Paul is definitely no Vermin Supreme, but if you can't provide any examples of "constantly attacks", then you made a false claim. A lie. Which makes you a?
If you make a claim, back it up, and stop breaking the guidelines. There are no trolls here, but there are some here that expect better than what this movement has been dealt.

How hard have you voted? Where were you in 2008 and 2012? Are you Matt Collins?

Now that Rand Paul is out of the race, who are you supporting?

Where did many of the Ron Paul supporters go? I know exactly where many of them went, but some around here want to remain blind and make excuses for their hand in it.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

No, I'm not going to feed the troll.

Rand Paul is definitely no Vermin Supreme

QED

 

[wmmonk]

QED

Stating he isn't Vermin Supreme isn't an attack, it's just a point. Rand Paul didn't offer up a Dental Plan, Time Travel Plan, Pony Plan backed up with Ponynomics, or a Zombie Preparedness Plan.
There is a difference between legitimate criticisms, and attacks that have no weight or are juvenile. Like calling someone a troll.

So, can you tell us where the Ron Paul supporters went?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Stating he isn't Vermin Supreme isn't an attack, it's just a point. Rand Paul didn't offer up a Dental Plan, Time Travel Plan, Pony Plan backed up with Ponynomics, or a Zombie Preparedness Plan.
There is a difference between legitimate criticisms, and attacks that have no weight or are juvenile. Like calling someone a troll.

So, can you tell us where the Ron Paul supporters went? I am an inept troll

I agree.