When Will Ron Pauls numbers in Scientific polls rise?

[STA654]

Title says it all.

Will they ever rise above 5%? 10%?

 

[Mister Grieves]

Only when he pulls a "shocking victory" in one of the early primaries. They'll have to start bringing his numbers up to try and maintain a false image of validity to their worthless polls.

 

[RedStripe]

Title says it all.

Will they ever rise above 5%? 10%?

I hope 5% by the end of October.

 

[foofighter20x]

It won't be until after the primaries since the pollsters exclude whoever they deem not to be "primary voters" or "likely primary voters."

 

[Eli]

More important is the meetup group numbers. If we're gaining about 500/day inside two months we can have over 60-70k. If we hold strong and keep drawing more membership by primaries we can have over a 100k members and over a thousand groups. Thats enough man power to swing any caucus. Before each primary we can quickly organize and swarm the state with support.

 

[Cowlesy]

When all of us cellphone based folks install landlines and reverse the time-space continuum to get ourselves denoted as having a landline number and being a likely Republican voter.

 

[Mister Grieves]

Before each primary we can quickly organize and swarm the state with support.

I believe all the juggling going on with the primaries is being done in an attempt to thwart this. This is certain to backfire tho, as your casual voter will be more confused by it than many of Ron Paul's supporters who react to information almost instantly.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Many people are still undecided and the average American does not even know who is running outside of Hillary, Obama, Giuliani, Romney, and McCain. I know people who did not even know that Richardson and Edwards are running and both are polling in the teens and 20's.

When things start to heat up in October, I expect us to grow. Remember, we appeal to peopel who are not looking for the average politician so many of these people probably have not even thought about the Presidential race

Additionally, I expect that we will snag some of Tancredo's people when he drops out soon

 

[quickmike]

I think alot of you are assuming that the mainstream media will give him airtime. Honestly, I dont think they ever will, even if he polls in the 10-15% range in national polls.

We all need to start acting like MSM support and reporting on him is never going to happen no matter what if we want a chance. Its up to us to get Ron's name out there to the people who still dont know who he is. If we dont................. we lose because 70%+ of americans have never heard the name Ron Paul and will probably never know he is running.

 

[skiingff]

I think alot of you are assuming that the mainstream media will give him airtime. Honestly, I dont think they ever will, even if he polls in the 10-15% range in national polls.

We all need to start acting like MSM support and reporting on him is never going to happen no matter what if we want a chance. Its up to us to get Ron's name out there to the people who still dont know who he is. If we dont................. we lose because 70%+ of americans have never heard the name Ron Paul and will probably never know he is running.

Exactly. Mass media (TV ads) should do the trick.

 

[bbachtung]

Well, he just went from 0% to 3% in Iowa, so something's shaking. He, Willard, and Huckabee were the only gainers in the poll.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Let's do it now, when it's easy!

Exactly. Mass media (TV ads) should do the trick.

That will certainly help. But, why is it that only a few ever talk about going out the front door and handing out literature at events? You know, concerts, rodeos, whatever.... Also, going door-to-door.

We've got the internet down pat, but honestly, I don't see how we stand a prayer, unless more of us are willing to get out of our comfort zones and start putting literature in people's hands. The vast majority of people don't even know WHO HE IS, much less his stances on the issues! Signs are great, but they alone won't get it done.

Think of it this way, even mainstream news is talking about the possibility of Martial Law on the horizon. Bush is moving forward with his NA Union and the NAFTA Superhighway. Our dollar is in the very real danger of crashing. What do you think we're going to be up against if Congressman Paul DOES NOT win? We all stand the very distinct possibility that we will be forced to step out of our comfort zones, then. Wouldn't you rather do it now, before we have tanks in the streets, when we really have a prayer of turning this around? When all it would take is handing out campaign literature?

Just trying to motivate a little bit.

Let me ask you this.... Do you think the Slim Jims are adequate to hand out, or do you think we need to hand out additional things? Maybe develop something else, or a few of his speeches/articles that highlight his positions? If so, maybe we should do that and put together some packets. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out good materials for getting the word out to so very many people who are either not on the internet, don't have high-speed access, or simply won't take the time. Ideas?

 

[Nash]

I think alot of you are assuming that the mainstream media will give him airtime. Honestly, I dont think they ever will, even if he polls in the 10-15% range in national polls.

We all need to start acting like MSM support and reporting on him is never going to happen no matter what if we want a chance. Its up to us to get Ron's name out there to the people who still dont know who he is. If we dont................. we lose because 70%+ of americans have never heard the name Ron Paul and will probably never know he is running.

Buchanan was polling at 6% nationally prior to winning New Hampshire in 1996. He promptly shot up to 21% the next day.

He got TONS of exposure following his win in the state. The ensuing smear campaign did him in.

The MSM is not going to give Ron Paul any exposure (good, bad or otherwise) until he wins a primary. That is why New Hampshire is absolutely crucial for the campaign. He MUST win there to have a chance. If he cannot win in New Hampshire then he cannot win anywhere else.

Of course there is a phase 2 following a win in New Hampshire. We know this because of the Buchanan and Dean campaigns that went to pieces following a victory there, but it's the first major step towards the presidency.

After Paul wins New Hampshire the smear campaign will ensue and that is going to the the most critical part of the grassroots campaign leading up to Super Tuesday.

Prepare the response ads now, because the attacks are inevitable.

 

[stevedasbach]

Ron Paul IS rising in the polls. However, without daily MSM coverage and/or national TV advertising, it is a slow process.

I've been tracking Paul's national poll numbers via pollster.com since before the 1st debates. He' gone from 0.4% to 2.0% over that time.

Whatever he is polling at the time, he will get a much higher percentage of actual votes. All of those people the polls miss will finally be included, and you know Paul supporters will turn out at more than the usual 10-20%. Can you say "upset" and "beating expectations"?

 

[LibertyEagle]

Steve,
Most people still don't know about him. It's not going to change unless WE do something about it.

Please, let's not wait until it's too late.

 

[quickmike]

Buchanan was polling at 6% nationally prior to winning New Hampshire in 1996. He promptly shot up to 21% the next day.

He got TONS of exposure following his win in the state. The ensuing smear campaign did him in.

The MSM is not going to give Ron Paul any exposure (good, bad or otherwise) until he wins a primary. That is why New Hampshire is absolutely crucial for the campaign. He MUST win there to have a chance. If he cannot win in New Hampshire then he cannot win anywhere else.

Of course there is a phase 2 following a win in New Hampshire. We know this because of the Buchanan and Dean campaigns that went to pieces following a victory there, but it's the first major step towards the presidency.

After Paul wins New Hampshire the smear campaign will ensue and that is going to the the most critical part of the grassroots campaign leading up to Super Tuesday.

Prepare the response ads now, because the attacks are inevitable.

Difference is, Buchanan already had full name recognition. If you asked someone who Pat Buchanan is back in 96, just about everyone could tell you who he was. Thats not the case with Ron Paul. For every 50 flyers I give out doing door to door, about 7 or 8 people know who he is. Thats not good enough. Like Liberty said, if we dont ALL do some door to door, were screwd for sure. I guarantee it. Ill bet anyone here 500 bucks right now.

Most people are too scared to go door to door, thats the problem.

 

[brumans]

When all of us cellphone based folks install landlines and reverse the time-space continuum to get ourselves denoted as having a landline number and being a likely Republican voter.

If we don't capture the vote of the people with landline phones, we won't win anyway.

But Ron Pauls campaign is growing DAILY, mostly because of grassroots supports and word-of-mouth! Keep the momentum going. As Ron Paul said, "We're on the upslope" -- and the more we get the word out the higher we will climb up that slope. People are attracted to his message, we just need to initiate that attraction!

 

[Harry96]

Buchanan was polling at 6% nationally prior to winning New Hampshire in 1996. He promptly shot up to 21% the next day.

He got TONS of exposure following his win in the state. The ensuing smear campaign did him in.

The MSM is not going to give Ron Paul any exposure (good, bad or otherwise) until he wins a primary. That is why New Hampshire is absolutely crucial for the campaign. He MUST win there to have a chance. If he cannot win in New Hampshire then he cannot win anywhere else.

Of course there is a phase 2 following a win in New Hampshire. We know this because of the Buchanan and Dean campaigns that went to pieces following a victory there, but it's the first major step towards the presidency.

After Paul wins New Hampshire the smear campaign will ensue and that is going to the the most critical part of the grassroots campaign leading up to Super Tuesday.

Prepare the response ads now, because the attacks are inevitable.

I hadn't considered this before, but this means the establishment front-loading the primaries could backfire: If Ron Paul wins NH, he won't have as much time to build momentum, but the MSM won't have as much time to tear him down either.

 

[quickmike]

If we don't capture the vote of the people with landline phones, we won't win anyway.

But Ron Pauls campaign is growing DAILY, mostly because of grassroots supports and word-of-mouth! Keep the momentum going. As Ron Paul said, "We're on the upslope" -- and the more we get the word out the higher we will climb up that slope. People are attracted to his message, we just need to initiate that attraction!

Problem is you cant initiate attraction without physically going up to someone, handing them a flyer and giving them a good explanation of what Ron Paul stands for. Do you think enought RP supporters are doing this? I dont.

I see people putting up signs, which is ok I guess.......... gets a lot of people to see his name, but thats about it. Does nothing at all to get that person to vote for him, especially the older people who tend to vote in large numbers, but who dont have internet access to go Google Ron's name when they see that nice 4'x9' banner hanging on the overpass. Instead, they just say "hmmmm, Ron Paul president 2008....... I wonder who he is?............. anyway, back to the Hannity show.

 

[Jennifer Reynolds]

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