When RPF's was born...

[HVACTech]

it was all about Enlightenment.

it was a place for those who "understood" to share.
and thus
promote, their collective knowledge and expertise.

I learned SO much from both RPF's and the Dailypaul.....

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

 

[pcosmar]

it was all about Enlightenment.

it was a place for those who "understood" to share.
and thus
promote, their collective knowledge and expertise.

I learned SO much from both RPF's and the Dailypaul.....

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

Infiltration.
Exodus.

a concerted effort to minimize our effectiveness.

evil spirits.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Infiltration.
Exodus.

a concerted effort to minimize our effectiveness.

evil spirits.

And excessive ban hammer use.

 

[Natural Citizen]

it was all about Enlightenment.

it was a place for those who "understood" to share.
and thus
promote, their collective knowledge and expertise.

I learned SO much from both RPF's and the Dailypaul.....

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

Truth be told, I prefer public discussion in liberal/progressive corners of the www. They're easier to talk to. They're more open to reason. It's just such a tough habit to break logging in here, though.

This is the most misery inducing web site I log onto.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Not only that, you never know when you're arguing with two different accounts that are the same person.

 

[Anti Federalist]

it was all about Enlightenment.

it was a place for those who "understood" to share.
and thus
promote, their collective knowledge and expertise.

I learned SO much from both RPF's and the Dailypaul.....

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

In many ways, all that can be said, has been said.

There are only so many ways you skin a cat.

And the ideas of limited government and individual liberty are not popular and do not resonate with most people.

So, frustration and apathy and anger sets in.

It is what it is.

Ron is a saint for doing it all these years and not either:

a - stroking out.

b - climbing to a high place with a rifle.

 

[Danke]

In many ways, all that can be said, has been said.

There are only so many ways you skin a cat.
U
And the ideas of limited government and individual liberty are not popular and do not resonate with most people.

So, frustration and apathy and anger sets in.

I agree with this. Just got to laugh at it all. I try to.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I agree with this. Just got to laugh at it all. I try to.

Exactly...have a larf.

 

[Danke]

Exactly...have a larf.

I'd have to see the face before giving that the POW face. Although, I can understand a sailor automatically not liking that.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'd have to see the face before giving that the POW face. Although, I can understand a sailor automatically not liking that.

 

[phill4paul]

Not only that, you never know when you're arguing with two different accounts that are the same person.

This is my most certain bitch. Just make it easy and let members create multiple accounts through vbulliten,

 

[Jdayh]

it was all about Enlightenment.

it was a place for those who "understood" to share.
and thus
promote, their collective knowledge and expertise.

I learned SO much from both RPF's and the Dailypaul.....

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

nice to see you here!! its been awhile , since the dictator kicked you out of DP. (totally not deserved) hope you are well HVAC !!

(As to your answer, the first post was most accurate)

 

[otherone]

Ron is a saint for doing it all these years and not either:

a - stroking out.

b - climbing to a high place with a rifle.

Ron Paul was, and is, able to sleep at night. Life is great when no demons are chasing you.

 

[thoughtomator]

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

The anarchists took over, drove out most of the libertarians, gradually converted the dominant philosophy from the one espoused by Ron Paul to something very very very very different. And now the place is a running joke with zero real-world relevance except to document the decline and fall of the liberty movement in the face of leadership abdication.

The admins can simply go through my ignore list if they want to see who needs to be removed to restore a wisp of credibility.

I used to refer people to this site all the time; but in its present condition I would be far too embarrassed to do so.

 

[Jesse James]

The anarchists took over, drove out most of the libertarians, gradually converted the dominant philosophy from the one espoused by Ron Paul to something very very very very different. And now the place is a running joke with zero real-world relevance except to document the decline and fall of the liberty movement in the face of leadership abdication.

The admins can simply go through my ignore list if they want to see who needs to be removed to restore a wisp of credibility.

I used to refer people to this site all the time; but in its present condition I would be far too embarrassed to do so.

Ron Paul is a closet anarchist...

Honestly everybody complaining in this thread should just piss off..

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

The anarchists took over, drove out most of the libertarians, gradually converted the dominant philosophy from the one espoused by Ron Paul to something very very very very different. And now the place is a running joke with zero real-world relevance except to document the decline and fall of the liberty movement in the face of leadership abdication.

The admins can simply go through my ignore list if they want to see who needs to be removed to restore a wisp of credibility.

I used to refer people to this site all the time; but in its present condition I would be far too embarrassed to do so.

Perhaps we can implement some kind of rep system where only members who have been here for a certain number of years can use neg rep as a scoring tool to "hide" the posts of offending trolls. That way we could cool their jets and they would give up and go elsewhere...

 

[thoughtomator]

Ron Paul is a closet anarchist...

In order for that to be true, he'd have to have been lying to us for an entire career of promoting the Constitution.

Is that really your contention? That the liberty movement was fundamentally a lie?

 

[Jesse James]

In order for that to be true, he'd have to have been lying to us for an entire career of promoting the Constitution.

Is that really your contention? That the liberty movement was fundamentally a lie?

What a completely ridiculous thing to say. If I ran this place I would have you banned, because you just seem like a troll.

Constitutionalism is a the outer realm of libertarianism... A step towards constitutionalism is a step towards complete anarcho capitalism. He openly talks about how things should be run voluntary. He had a sign on his desk that said "Don't steal the government hates competition." He is well aware that if he somehow became president and controlled America, then managed to turn it into a complete constitutionalist society (like he wants) America would be the best off we have been in at least 160 years and we could seriously have a debate about whether we want to keep it running as such or turn the remaining functions of government private too. There's no conflict between supporting anarchism and supporting constitutionalism. It's a gradual step, and it might honestly be the ONLY step we have to getting an anarcho capitalist society.

 

[CCTelander]

And excessive ban hammer use.

And those damned anarchists/voluntaryists. Don't forget those damned anarchists/voluntaryists. They're the cause of pretty much all the problems around here. Oh! And the damned "purists" too. Yeah, them too.

 

[CaptUSA]

and yet in Today's world... we are not even worth an honorable mention... :o
how the hell did that HAPPEN?

Ron Paul didn't cure apathy - he just put it into remission. The state of politics brought it back. I don't blame the site - we've just returned to the way it was before the Ron Paul Revolution.

Most people don't have the stamina to keep fighting the power and growth of government. Many people never fully understood Ron's message and were easily led astray. Others just gave up and decided to live their own lives outside the prying eyes. So the Revolution lies dormant. But with the continued excesses of government, there may be events to resuscitate it when needed.