When Police Abuse Is 'Normal'

[Anti Federalist]

do you see ANY mention of "Rights"? anywhere?

"To Secure the Blessing of Liberty, to ourselves and our posterity".

And it failed.

As predicted and warned.

 

[Anti Federalist]

are you playing dumb? or is this the real thing?

So you have no answer?

Of course you don't, because to suggest that somehow the bill of rights created the king/president, is ridiculous, on the face of it.

Try harder.

 

[HVACTech]

"To Secure the Blessing of Liberty, to ourselves and our posterity".

And it failed.

As predicted and warned.

why do you keep skipping the word "federation" ?
in general. "Constitution" is a much larger word for you...

it was designed as a military and trade compact. why you ask?

The War of 1812 was a military conflict that lasted from June 18, 1812 to February 18, 1815, fought between the United States of America and the United Kingdom, its North American colonies, and its Native American allies.

what is YOUR excuse for bringing "Rights" into this diametric?

if you want to play stupid on purpose....
admit it. and dance like the jester that you are.


the CONstitution was never designed to protect your "Rights" fool.
that task was left for you to do.

the candy ass anti federalist's cried poor baby...
and that is why the Bill of Rights was tacked on, 3 years later.

pussy.

 

[HVACTech]

So you have no answer?

Of course you don't, because to suggest that somehow the bill of rights created the king/president, is ridiculous, on the face of it.

Try harder.

are you off your med's again?
if so. I apologize. I do try to be kind to the ignorant..... :o

 

[Anti Federalist]

what is YOUR excuse for bringing "Rights" into this diametric?

Because one of the prime directives of the document says that is the reason for it exist.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Forced to pay tribute to the state god of Soteria, but I supposedly have religious freedom.

 

[CCTelander]

You are quoting Hamilton as the supreme being on the Bill of Rights? That's like quoting Satan on the meaning of Jesus' words. The Constitution was a Hamiltonian coup to make a powerful central government; it worked beautifully.

And stop calling [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] names; if you want people to listen to you, act with reason and intelligence, not insults and name-calling.

To that one, anyone who refuses to worship at the alter of the Almighty CONstitution is a heretic. Best to simply ignore IMO.

 

[HVACTech]

To that one, anyone who refuses to worship at the alter of the Almighty CONstitution is a heretic. Best to simply ignore IMO.

it would help if you knew what you were talking about. there is NOTHING mystical or magical about the word itself.
all Republics have a Constitution. even China.
"Constitution of the People's Republic of China"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China

did you know that?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Bump

 

[Weston White]

get your shit together. the Constitution and the bill of rights are NOT one and the same.

I would tend to disagree, the 'Bill of Rights' merely serves as a container for the first ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. For as noted by Hamilton: "The truth is, after all the declamation we have heard, that the constitution is itself in every rational sense, and to every useful purpose, A BILL OF RIGHTS."

 

[Occam's Banana]

Anyway, getting back on topic ...

Here's a link to the Radley Balko article at WaPo, which was referenced in the OP:

"Do Not Resist": A chilling look at the normalization of warrior cops
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng-look-at-the-normalization-of-warrior-cops/

Some sad, sick stuff ...

 

[Anti Federalist]

I would tend to disagree, the 'Bill of Rights' merely serves as a container for the first ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. For as noted by Hamilton: "The truth is, after all the declamation we have heard, that the constitution is itself in every rational sense, and to every useful purpose, A BILL OF RIGHTS."

Rational...yes to a rational mind that is how it is.

HVACTech isn't quite rational.

 

[HVACTech]

I would tend to disagree, the 'Bill of Rights' merely serves as a container for the first ten Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. For as noted by Hamilton: "The truth is, after all the declamation we have heard, that the constitution is itself in every rational sense, and to every useful purpose, A BILL OF RIGHTS."

if it is your intent to note, that the purpose of both documents are, "one and the same" you are correct.
and we agree.

AF gets his panties in a wad over the distinction between the two. and has been railing about it for nine years.

 

[Anti Federalist]

AF gets his panties in a wad over the distinction between the two. and has been railing about it for nine years.

The CONstitution's main body lays out what government is allowed to do, for the most part.

Which, as was warned, is pretty much any damn thing it pleases.

The Bill of Rights states what government is NOT allowed to do.

Big difference.

And I haven't been railing about it for nine years.

I only started railing about it when it became painfully obvious that, due the fact that the AmeriKan people hate freedom and liberty so much, there was never any chance to return to what CONservatives called "strict constitutional constructionist" ideals.

So, why bother?

If we're all just engaged in post mortem mental masturbation, why not start over, start fresh, heed the warnings that the Anti-Federalists gave and not follow the same path that led us to this current tyranny?

 

[HVACTech]

The CONstitution's main body lays out what government is allowed to do, for the most part.

Which, as was warned, is pretty much any damn thing it pleases.

The Bill of Rights states what government is NOT allowed to do.

Big difference.

And I haven't been railing about it for nine years.

I only started railing about it when it became painfully obvious that, due the fact that the AmeriKan people hate freedom and liberty so much, there was never any chance to return to what CONservatives called "strict constitutional constructionist" ideals.

So, why bother?

If we're all just engaged in post mortem mental masturbation, why not start over, start fresh, heed the warnings that the Anti-Federalists gave and not follow the same path that led us to this current tyranny?

Hmmm. let me think about... naw. nevermind.