What's wrong with Republicans???? I'm stumped?

yeshuaisiam

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Okay, I'm ALL for Ron Paul, let me make that clear.


But Mitt is an obvious liar, flip flopper, and supported abortion at one time.
Gingrich leaves wives and is embedded in corporations.

ABOVE ALL - THEY BOTH WERE FOR THE BAIL OUT!!!!! I can't freaking believe that Republicans are so freaking naive to this fact. I remember how so many were pissed about the bail out then they are going to elect somebody who was for it!!! I'm STUMPED.

At least if they could not grasp the genius of Ron Paul, I could see them (and the neocons) going for Santorum. But what the heck Gingrich & Romney?

I think elections are really jokes... I can't believe the Republican party.
 
The soil has been turned, and RP has sewn the seeds of liberty. The drama we see are the rhino weeds dying off, as the new generation of republicans takes root.
 
They have it in thier brains that they are the only ones that can beat Obama.. That was the #1 issue for people voting in Fl. yesterday. Beating Obama seems to be the #1 goal for the regular voter, like it or not.. This is the same hysteria with the anyone but Bush or a Republican theme in 08 which got Obama in Office. So othe bottom line is that logic be damned, they want Obama out.. Now the Paul campaign and us need to make the people beleive that Paul can do it..
 
And they and Santorum all three at some point supported individual insurance mandate at the federal level. In fact the idea that either Santorum or Gingrich is tea party with their lobbying involvement and ready reliance on big government 'solutions' is just amazing to me. I agree that Santorum is sincerely socially conservative, but that is about it.
 
They have it in thier brains that they are the only ones that can beat Obama.. That was the #1 issue for people voting in Fl. yesterday. Beating Obama seems to be the #1 goal for the regular voter, like it or not.. This is the same hysteria with the anyone but Bush or a Republican theme in 08 which got Obama in Office. So othe bottom line is that logic be damned, they want Obama out.. Now the Paul campaign and us need to make the people beleive that Paul can do it..

But that still doesn't say why they'd vote Gingrich who polls dead last against Obama. Romney polls best, then Ron, then Santorum then Gingrich.
 
Here's what's wrong with Republicans.

1. They want a real conservative, but don't look that closely at records. If the media went on 24/7 about how Reagan campaigned for Ron Paul during his first run for president, always said great things about him, and kept pushing the pictures of Paul and Reagan together, it would paint a whole different picture. Suddenly, Ron Paul would look less kooky and more Reagan-like. That's the kind of Republican they want, but they won't scrutinize enough to find one.

2. The media ignores Ron Paul and doesn't properly vet the other candidates. If the media kept pointing on Romney's flip-flops and Gingrich's affairs, the way they went on and on about Cain's or those stupid newsletters, Ron Paul would suddenly look much more consistent and valued. Ron Paul isn't only consistent on the issues, but he's a man of deep integrity and values. Unfortunately, because of the blackouts, and the fact that some candidates get free passes on things that really call their character into question, that's not the picture voters get.

3. They want electability. They want someone who can beat Obama, and they don't care who it is. For them, a Republican - any Republican - is going to be better than Obama. A lot of them jumped off the conservative cliff with George W. Bush, and fell into a pit of paranoia and propaganda. For them, a Ron Paul win means more Obama (I've actually heard people say that Ron Paul reminds them of Obama) and more terrorism. Granted, they don't have to worry, because he's obviously not electable.

Yes, I know, most of the other candidates don't poll well against the big O, but do you honestly think they know that? I bet if you took a challenge to only watch the MSM, don't visit blogs or read anything on the Internet, and only read newspapers, the election would look like a bleak, dark thing with no Ron Paul. We know all this stuff because we're always looking for it.

4. They want someone whom they view can win in the primary. Ron hasn't won a single state yet, so people don't think he'll win the nomination. This is obviously because he wasn't electable to begin with, though.
 
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It's seems like right now it is a very fine line between rebuilding the party and destroying it.
 
Isn't it odd that they want someone who they view can win in the primary? But they won't vote for Paul to actually help him win a primary? :rolleyes:
 
Mitt 'looks' Presidential, and that seems to be enough for many of the TV brainwashed electorate.
 
Agreed, I do believe that they want Obama out. But the bail outs kill me. That's why it made sense to me that Santorum won Iowa, because at LEAST he on many issues is more of a "conservative". People hate Obama so much, most would go to whoever the nominee is anyway.

I wish they'd see Ron Paul in the genius that he is & his message.... Still though its absolutely outrageous that they'd vote for those who were for the bail out. Believe me I'm no Frothy supporter, but he had a point in the debates when he said "They were for the bail outs". I could see neocons & Bush type conservatives going all for Santorum. Younger, family man, conservative voting record (pretty much)...

I just can't believe it seems Romney & Gingrich. It's baffling. People just do whatever the media tells them to. Sickening. They would have LOVED Frothy in the Bush era.
 
I think they don't really care about small government. What Republicans claim they want and what they truly want are vastly different. It reminds me of those surveys where women say that what they value the most in a man is a sense of humor but then you notice how this "sense of humor" is strangely found so very often in men who have a lot of money. :rolleyes:
 
To many, Ron Paul is Obama. He's a "liberal" who wants to allow same-sex marriage, put drugs on the street, apologize to terrorists, and end all wars (not that Obama does). Plus they want someone to make them feel good about themselves and have "the best chance" at beating Obama. Their hatred will be their downfall, unfortunately.

I too am stumped, frustrated, bewildered, and slack jawed at this party. I can only hope that us tireless minority can cause change things before they get any worse.
 
But that still doesn't say why they'd vote Gingrich who polls dead last against Obama. Romney polls best, then Ron, then Santorum then Gingrich.

You know they're not looking at the polls. They believe Gingrich can beat Obama because "Gingrich is such a good debater." Ignoring the polls, ignoring the fact that his unfavorables are through the roof, and ignoring the fact no one brings in the moderates and independents like Ron Paul.

Are they ignoring the polls or ignorant of them? Are they subconsciously choosing or intentionally choosing to not believe them? I don't get it either!
 
I think Jon Stewart also hit on it back after the Gabby Giffords incident when he went all "pro calmness and civility". Although he didn't come to the correct conclusion, Stewart was right in that the vast majority of Americans are the same. They're all "moderates" or middle of the road. However, much like it says in the Bible, they are neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm. And lukewarmness invokes a strong reaction of rejection.

The moderates, whether they just so happen to don the cloak of Republican or Democrat, ultimately want a Bread and Circuses style democracy. While they may beat their chest at the "opposing side" (a manufactured product of MSM), they both want bigger government in the areas of their choosing. They want welfare for their lifestyle, immunity from hardships, and protection at the cost of liberty. I guess the most ironic part is with Republicans, who have no interest in a republic style of government, but for a democratic one. We have entered an age where the two parties have melded together.

So it's not a letter that's the problem, it's an apathy that has brought people to lukewarmness. Thus the urge to spit. :(
 
The Republican party doesn't stand for anything anymore anyway. Not since the neocons hijacked it.

The good news is, the libertarian wing is the fastest and only growing part of the party along with the fact the youth are leaning towards Paul. The future looks bright, if the collapse doesn't come first...
 
People are mostly followers that look to others to lead them that they feel they can relate to and feel they are part of their team. The people actively trying to lead them are Neocon talk show hosts and Foxnews.

We do not have any national figures in our camp leading the sheep. A strategy doomed to failure.
 
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