What's with MSM push for Huckabee these days?

[Violet1776]

A Southern Perspective

Hi - I moved to the South from CT about 10 months ago and the culture here is different. I have a friend. She is 70 and she likes Ron Paul b/c I gave her a DVD and we both want to defend the Constitution but I found out that she knows little about it and can be duped into supporting the fair tax. The more I learned about it the more I realized it was just something that was going to be worse that what we have.

After the debate, she said that "Hey Hucklebee is moving up in the polls." I am trying to get her to stop reading MSM news and to get on the internet. I had a less than thrilled response and which surprised her, so she continues. "He's a Christian isn't that great!" I told her what he said at the CNN debate about Jesus and the death penalty. "Jesus was too smart to be a politician." (This isn't direct quote, but this was his reply right?" Her reply was classic, "I don't like that response."

Unfortunately, people here buy into the Islamofacism nonsense and are simply hypnotized. If he's a Christian, we'll vote for him. They listen to the MSM and buy into the war on terror nonsense.

I live in a neighborhood of 200 homes and I am hashing out what to write in my letter to my neighbors about Ron Paul. I want to get it out on the Thursday before the TeaParty and hopefully inspire some donations.

No doubt about it.

I am firmly convinced that this will be won by door-to-door guerilla tactics, personal letters, kind, courteous and inspring with good doses of truth and reality to wake people up. Hard work people is what it's going to take to win, but it will be worth it.

 

[gilliganscorner]

More of this...

Wow. Ever since Huckabee spoke to the CFR, MSM keeps flogging him:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_po/on_the2008_trail_25

CONCORD, N.H. - The New Hampshire chapter of the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union, has endorsed Hillary Rodham Clinton and Mike Huckabee for the Democratic and Republican presidential nominations respectively, sources said Wednesday.
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This is the first time the 16,000-member group has endorsed a Republican candidate, despite estimates that a quarter of its members are Republicans.

The chapter's members will meet later this week to announce the Clinton endorsement. Leaders are trying to schedule another meeting to announce Huckabee's endorsement.

Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor, was the only Republican candidate to speak at the national NEA meeting in Philadelphia in July. His campaign also courted the New Hampshire chapter, and he was the only GOP candidate to meet with chapter officials, a source with the New Hampshire union said.

The group's endorsement of Clinton is not a surprise. The executive director of the union, Terry Shumaker, is a former ambassador under President Bill Clinton and chaired his primary campaigns in 1992 and 1996.

Clinton, a New York senator, gave a speech to the group's conference in March and had strong support among the appointed government relations committee.

John Edwards' presidential campaign had actively sought the endorsement. Scott McGilvray, president of the Manchester Education Association, endorsed John Edwards recently. The Manchester chapter is union's the largest affiliate in the state, and Edwards' aides had hoped it would help sway the larger body.

The New Hampshire chapter endorsed former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean unsuccessful bid for the Democratic nomination in 2004.

 

[moostraks]

Another reason not to trust Huck...

As a homeschooler, the one thing you don't want is a candidate supported by the NEA...ANYwhere...
As an aside at least I can remove my tinfoil hat (or don it with pride with the likes of the rest of you!!) I listen to talk radio and it is a media blackout. The only time the good doctor gets a mention is if it is a snide remark to what a nutjob he is, and they flame Paul supporters for having no class. Go Figure?!?! The latest was the guy who sat in for Glenn Beck today.He was definately pulling for Romney (at least until I tuned out. 20 minutes of that lovefest was enough for me!!!)
Have a blessed day!
Mary

 

[Mark Mosconi]

I think we all know that this is an uphill battle. Whether the MSM supports Giuliani or Romney or Huckabee doesn't matter as much as the fact that they will NOT support Ron Paul. It doesn't matter who they support, because as I see it, our battle is not against any one candidate, it's against an oppressive, and very unfair system. This is not a battle that is easily won, people, but it's a battle that we must try our hardest to win regardless. I do often wonder what Ron Paul's REAL support numbers are out there. He's the only candidate who has people marching through the streets with signs and banners chanting his name, he gets huge support at rallies, very large donation drives, he wins basically every online poll on the internet, and I heard one MSM show report that in some cities, they see so many Ron Paul signs that if they didn't know better, they'd think he was a real estate agent. THERE IS SUPPORT OUT THERE. The question is, how much? I mean...we're not just living in a fantasy land. The support is VISIBLE. But it never shows up in the nationwide polls. Now I know that some of these polls are bull. I had a call from one of the pollsters that censored ron paul (I spoke of it in a different topic), but are they all like that? I guess we may not know the true support until the primaries, but the one thing I will NEVER do is stop supporting him just cuz some say he's unelectable or cuz he lacks support. That's only more reason to support him. Come December 16th, and with the help of the blimp, I hope the MSM gets a sight they'll never forget.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Corporate neocons want Hillary as Pres, which is why there lining up someone that can be easily be defeated.

 

[gilliganscorner]

It's relentless.

My God, ever since Huckabee courted the CFR with his speech, the mainstream droids are constantly barraging him with attention. From this article here.

By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer Fri Dec 7, 4:16 AM ET

WASHINGTON - Mike Huckabee has vaulted from nowhere into second place in the Republican presidential race, riding a burst of support from evangelicals, Southerners and conservatives, a poll showed Friday.

The upsurge by the former Arkansas governor has come largely at the expense of Fred Thompson, according to the national survey by The Associated Press and Ipsos. Thompson has dropped after failing to galvanize the party's right-wing core as much as some had expected.

Rudy Giuliani remains the front-runner, yet while his support long has been steady it shows signs of fraying. Huckabee's growing strength in the South has come as the former New York mayor's support there has dropped, the poll found.

"Why not me?" Huckabee said in an interview Thursday. "I meet all the criteria. I'm conservative, but I think I appeal to a broader set of voters. And I think that people are also looking for someone with whom they can identify."

The poll showed Giuliani at 26 percent among Republican and GOP-leaning voters, about where he has been since spring. Huckabee has 18 percent, 8 percentage points more than in an AP-Ipsos survey a month ago.

That put Huckabee in a virtual tie for second with Arizona Sen. John McCain, who had 13 percent. Also close were Mitt Romney with 12 percent and Thompson with 11 percent.

Huckabee's ascent in the national poll echoed his upswing in Iowa, whose Jan. 3 nominating caucuses will be the first votes in the 2008 presidential campaign. A recent AP-Pew Research Center poll showed Huckabee in a virtual tie there with Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, though Huckabee trails significantly in New Hampshire and South Carolina, two other important states that vote early next year.

A Baptist minister who mixes a folksy manner with an emphasis on his faith, Huckabee now has the support of 25 percent of white evangelical voters, 23 percent of conservatives and 28 percent of Southerners, the AP-Ipsos poll found. That is a solid increase in each of those areas since November, and a lead or share of the lead in each category.

"It's his humanness. He's not like a robot," said Natosha Romine, 24, a homemaker from Dallas and Huckabee supporter interviewed in the survey. "You could tell he's been through some stuff, like he's one of us."

The Democratic race showed virtually no change nationally from last month, even though a recent AP-Pew poll showed a three-way battle in Iowa. In the new AP-Ipsos national survey, Hillary Rodham Clinton has about a 2-to-1 lead over Barack Obama, 45 percent to 23 percent, with John Edwards at 12 percent.

Just a month ago in the GOP race, Thompson was in second place with 19 percent. Along with his 8 percentage point drop in total support since then, his backing from conservatives also has fallen, though his support from evangelicals and Southerners has stayed roughly the same. In all three categories, he now trails Huckabee.

"You need to be able to have a broader based conservative coalition" than Huckabee has to win, said John McLaughlin, Thompson's pollster, who said the race remains fluid. "The question is can he broaden? The challenge to the other candidates is can we get a greater share of conservative votes."

Giuliani's national support has barely budged since spring, but his backing from Southerners has fallen since November. He now trails Huckabee in that category, and is about tied with him for conservatives and evangelicals. The AP-Pew polling showed Giuliani trailing in Iowa and New Hampshire and sharing the South Carolina lead with Thompson and Romney.

"While other candidates have gone up and down, the mayor's support has stayed steady and strong," said Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella.

A front-runner in the earliest contests until Huckabee caught him in Iowa, Romney has met resistance because of some voters' qualms about his Mormon religion. In a speech Thursday in College Station, Texas, Romney said while he would never abandon his religious beliefs, his church would not influence his decisions as president.

Evangelicals represent about four in 10 GOP voters nationally, according to the new AP-Ipsos survey. That makes them a crucial Republican constituency, though it also underscores why the more moderate Giuliani remains a strong contender.

Despite Huckabee's strength with evangelical voters, he has had a tougher time building support among less religious Republicans. He had the support of only 14 percent of non-evangelicals in the survey, compared to Giuliani's 31 percent.

"If he's going to be successful in the long run, he has to expand his appeal from social conservatives," said Neil Newhouse, a GOP pollster not affiliated with a presidential candidate. "If he's able to do that, he'll give anybody a run for their money."

The poll involved telephone interviews with 1,009 adults nationally and was conducted from Dec. 3-5. It had an overall margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. Included were interviews with 469 Democrats and people leaning Democratic with a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points, and 376 Republicans and GOP leaners with a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 5.1 percentage points.

Now here is a funny thing. I went to look at the poll cited in this article here(PDF format).

In this poll it states:

Interview dates: December, 3-5, 2007
Interviews: 1,009 adults; 790 registered voters
469 Democrats/Lean Democrat; 376 Republican /Lean Republican
Margin of error: +3.1 for all adults; +3.5 for registered voters;
+4.5 for Democrats; +5.1 for Republicans

Note: 1,009 adults.

Further, they state that 469 people are Democrats or lean towards Democrats, and the other 376 people are Republican. This is a total of 845 people they have pigeonholed. I assume the "margin of error" they state above would account for the missing 164 people (1009-845=164). Why? Did they vote Ron Paul? ;-)

Note that, for the first time in these poll series, they actually included Ron Paul.

 

[Derek Johnson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6cuy-6bMKQ

 

[pacelli]

Wow. Ever since Huckabee spoke to the CFR, MSM keeps flogging him:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071205/ap_po/on_the2008_trail_25

I didn't see anything about Huckabee speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations in that link. I think you are a conspiracy theorist.. oh wait a minute, Huckabee's busted:

"Former Governor Mike Huckabee's September 28, 2007 speech on foreign policy, delivered at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C."

htt p://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/mike_huckabees_speech_on_foreign_policy.html


PS- good link here of the candidates at the CFR:

ht tp://www.cfr.org/campaign2008/meetings.html

 

[gilliganscorner]

I know it is old news but sheesh:

Huckabee surges in the polls = Widespread Media Coverage
Ron Paul surges in the polls = crickets chirping.

I am Canadian. I was driving into work this morning and CBC had a blurb on the GOP primaries and all they did was babble on about the media fabricated (those are my words ... not theirs) Huckabee surge in popularity.

I listen to CBC radio every morning. They don't usually report on GOP news, but man, RP makes 4.3 million on November 5th, I specifically set my radio on the way to work, what do I hear? Nada.

Just FYI, CBC is a bit better than most MSM up here in Canada as they are partially funded by the gov't. They run some damn good documentaries (i.e. The Corporation, Why we fight, Michael Moore flicks, Loose Change etc etc) whereas our corporate mainstream media only runs the pablum similar to Fox.

Really irritates me.

 

[AisA1787]

THERE IS SUPPORT OUT THERE. The question is, how much?

Here's my take on it -- take NH for example. In telephone polls, where 95% of the people they call say they're going to actually go to the polls and vote on primary day, Paul has 8% support. Given that only about 10 to 15% of those people will actually saddle up and go vote (whereas I'm guessing 80% to 90% of Ron Paul supporters will take time out of their busy lives to vote) I'm thinking that Paul is going to surprise some people come January 8th. He will get much more than 8%. And that's not counting the fact that lots of those polls only call people who voted Republican in the last election cycle.

 

[huchahucha]

The reason they are pushing Minister Huckabee is that the MSM knows he is not electable nationwide, and would be an easy opponent for Hillary. He appeals only to the Christian sheep, but would get slaughtered nationally because he is far too religious.

Ding Ding Ding Ding - We have a winner!

If Huckabee gets the nomination he will get TROUNCED by the democrats. The media is kissing his ass right now, but they are also researching every dirty little secret he has. I believe Huckabee really is probably a God fearing, clean living man. That means all those dirty little secrets are going to be policy based from when he was Governor, and he is going to end up looking like a total jackass.