What's with MSM push for Huckabee these days?

[vertesc]

Huckbaee IS up in the polls.

Paul is still ignored, just the same way he's always been.

And people are avoiding getting into exchanges with Paul because they learned from Giuliani's mistake. That "extraordinary statement" got Paul into the political headlines for days. IMHO Paul should go on the offensive against the rest of them, to get more of those headlines. Maybe on the integrity front: "In my 20 years as Congressman I've stood by my principles and voted against everyone else in Congress 99 million times. How many times have you shown integrity like that? How can voters trust your election promises if you have a track record of bending to the will of the party every time?"

 

[gilliganscorner]

First, let's reflect a little. Earlier this month it was 38,000+ donators. I was one of them. Now, let's add in the people who I am getting to come to the caucus with that are friends and family: 20+. (This is not including the people who I am calling in my precinct to show up.) Now, let's also consider that very few people go to the caucuses on a cold January 3rd Tuesday night. In my county, last time it was about 450 people. Now, I know I'm not the only Ron Paul supporter and I know that other RP supporters are bringing people to the caucuses. So if we each bring 30 people and there are 10 RP supporters(which is a low number) in my county(30x10=300 RP votes out of 750 attendees), that means we will have the majority of the votes. Now, let's also add in that many caucus goers are somewhat undecided so many will easily be swayed with a 2 minute, well prepared speech. This is in a county with about 95,000 people. 450/95,000 means that only about 1/211 people will attend the caucuses. If that is the case across the board, then we have a good chance at huge success.

But that doesn't really even matter. What really matters is who is going to the national convention. Have you done what is necessary so you can be a delegate for the national convention? Donating the max amount does not even come close to the amount you can give by giving your time to become a delegate from your state at the GOP national convention. There is a limited number of them and that's where the rubber meets the road.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_National_Convention

This is what we ought to focus on. Get in there with the majority of Ron Paul supporters and we will take home the prize.

Great response and sound thinking. Unfortunately, I cannot vote for Ron Paul. Wish I could, but being Canadian is a bit of a problem in this case. Ron Paul has a tremendous number of supporters up here. I know, because I enlightened about 10 of my friends.

 

[Kingfisher]

I've tried to understand why Rush Limbaugh, Shawn Hannity, Mark Levin and the rest of the conservative talkers don't embrace Ron. Of course the Iraq War is probably the main reason, but disregarding that, he is the most consistent conservative in the field.
Even the right wing seems to be promoting the Agenda, but they make themselves out to be doing the USA a favor by "opposing" the Democrats. Sure seems like a conspiracy from both sides to marginalize Ron.

Because these guys arent conservatives. They are Neocons.

 

[Theocrat]

I Don't Trust These Polls

Hi Folks,

Has anyone else noticed this? It seems that MSM is co-ordinating a "divide and conquer" strategy for RP supporters.

I have seen more articles appearing these days talking about the "up and coming" challenger Mike Huckabee to the MSM favourites (Ghouliani and Romney). Take a look at this article.

In it, they construct sentences like:







In fact, Huckabee's name is cited 6 times in this article.

Only one mention of Ron Paul, again framing him as some sort of joke.



I worry about RP. With all of the co-ordinated MSM attacks/suppression/spin being fired at RP, sometimes the obstacles seem so high.

I was looking at the teaparty07.com site and they only have about 21,000 people pledged to donate that day. OK, so I know for sure that there are 21,000 people who are going to vote for RP. I also know that everyone who will vote for him are not necessarily signed up here.

But let's assume that these 21,000 folks represent 10% (pick a number) of RP supporters. That translates to 210,000 real votes. Is that enough to win the GOP? What number is?

Sorry about my doom and gloom feelings here. Perhaps you folks have a better interpretation or more facts than I do.

What I do find interesting is that in all of these typical barbs being exchanged with candidates (i.e. Clinton/Barrack, Romney/Huckabee, Romney/Ghouliani etc), no one, and I mean no GOP candidate is choosing to spar with Ron Paul (other than the TV debates)....at least what MSM is reporting.

Unfortunately, this is how I see the average voter:

Yes, I share your sentiments, exactly. It seemed like only a few weeks ago that Mike Huckabee was so low in the polls (except in Iowa), but now all of a sudden he has risen exponentially and almost immediately in most polls. According to one source on Huckabee's website, he is now first in Iowa, second in Texas, second in Florida, second or third in New Hampshire, and second in the nation (Rasmussen poll results).

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy that. Dr. Paul has received ten times as much as campaign contributions as Huckabee has, which I think reflects voter support significantly. Everytime Dr. Paul visits somewhere or has a rally, he has a HUGE turnout, ranging in the hundreds and thousands. So, it's not like Dr. Paul is receiving support from just "5%" of voters in the nation. It has to be more than that!

The sad part of this "Huckabee phenomenon" is that more and more Christians are being duped and seduced into believing that he is an "authentic conservative." In the last CNN/YouTube debate, Huckabee received thunderous applause for basically affirming that children of illegal immigrants should receive taxpayers' money for education benefits ("We shouldn't punish children for the sins of their parents. We're a better country than that.")! That's definitely not an authentic conservative position. If anything, I think these polls (assuming they're accurate) reflect the continuing fact that the GOP is decaying at an alarming rate, for they have forgotten the principles which once made them a great party. But, of course, we all know these polls are not reliable anyway. They're just a tool used by the mainstream media to sway the minds of American voters as they wish.

By the way, great picture! It's hilarious, but true...

 

[Georgia Gray]

Pay no mind to the number who signed up at teaparty07. I didn't for 11/5 and I gave $500. There were less than 16000 then signed up.

I am not signed up for 12/16 either, but I will be contributing $1000.

Looking at the numbers, I figure Dr. Paul will take in $6 million to $8 million, but $10 million is a stretch.

An $7 0R $8 MILLION day will garner attention and lots of it.

I will do what I can to get more folks to contribute 12/16. It would be GREAT to stun them with $10 million.

 

[rg123]

The PTB has chosen Rudy and his running mate will be Huckabee. I haven't researched it yet but some others have made references to paul singer and Rudy with
a loophole in donating through the back door with 3rd world debt. Basically the way I understand it you donate to the debt and its redirected to Rudy. Witzkeyman has a video on this I think we all need to look into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zvLY_sBH6s

 

[ssdded]

I read somewhere back in March that RON PAUL is the ONLY Presidential candidate from BOTH parties who is NOT a member of the CFR.

Also there has not been a President who was not a CFR member since the CFR was creating in 1920(or so?).

Sucks don't it?

I don't think Kucinich and Gravel are CFR members, either.

 

[B9vot3r]

weeks before the st. petersburg debate took place, there was a drastic rise in the amount of headlines Huckabee was garnishing from CNN headlines. Before the debate took place, i noticed how fishy it seemed myself. then came time for the debate, and all of a sudden hes getting 1/3 of the air time and lob-ball/softie questions? Miraculously he won the 'debate'? Last time i checked there has to be a debate for a person to win one.

the transcript might as well have read as follows:

Moderator: "This next question is for Huckabee. Do you think teddybears are cute?"
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Moderator: "Congressman Paul. Can you explain your contributions to nazi newspapers? and your alleged direct bloodline link to hitler himself?"

Its not just RP either. Romney got some mowdown questions, having to explain if he believes in the bible as a mormon and Giuliani with the immigration questions? (which he then dirtied Romney with as well, which doubly sucks for his image). I dont really remember Tancredo or Hunter speaking, did they even get questions besides some 'afterthought' moments? Thompson and McCain felt like the only ones not blatantly attacked by the wonderfully handpicked questions from the CNN staff.

Listening to the criticisms of the core republican base, their main gripe is that they have not seen a 'declarative' winner in the previous debates theyve seen. Building up Huckabee, sending him slam dunk or easy lay up questions during the debate, and amazing/dominating airtime translates into 'hey this guy is a real stand up leader'. Not many other people on stage even got enough time to tell a damn joke let alone RP, duncan or tancredo. No wonder the polls are jumping after the media has declared Huckabee the winner...before the debate ever started!

i suppose the original question still remains... 'why huckabee'?

 

[reaver]

Its not just RP either. Romney got some mowdown questions, having to explain if he believes in the bible as a mormon and Giuliani with the immigration questions? (which he then dirtied Romney with as well, which doubly sucks for his image). I dont really remember Tancredo or Hunter speaking, did they even get questions besides some 'afterthought' moments? Thompson and McCain felt like the only ones not blatantly attacked by the wonderfully handpicked questions from the CNN staff.

Listening to the criticisms of the core republican base, their main gripe is that they have not seen a 'declarative' winner in the previous debates theyve seen.

Tancredo owned Huckabee. On the Mars mission question Mike pledged to increase tax funding to the space program (without raising taxes of course ).
Tancredo ended his 25 seconds w/

"This is it, folks. That's why we have such incredible problems with our debt, because everybody's trying to be everything to all people.

We can't afford some things, and by the way, going to Mars is one of them."

I happen to agree with him here.

 

[Futurity]

Huckabee was supported by mass media because it was decided that he would be next corporate republican candidate for president.

 

[ConstitutionGal]

Just FYI:

There are currently three candidates that are not CFR: Paul, Kucinch and Gravel. The last president that was not CFR was Regan but, once in office, all his high level cabinet department heads and advisors were CFR which is why Reagan never got around to actually doing some of the things he promised during his campaign like abolishing the Jimmy Carter created Dept. of Education.

 

[RobertJ]

Bill Clinton practically moved the CFR into the whitehouse during his administration. So did Bush#2 at one point. Once they got the war started and in full effect....a lot of them fled for safer ground and left, the republican party is taking the heat for acts of this foreign agency.

To every American reading this, your country has been stolen. This is not conspiracy, it is fact. Agents of a foreign country are running the US government. If you listen to the "media" calling us kooks and other silly names, it is their way of hiding the TRUTH from you. The media is part of this foreign agency, they will do and say anything to keep their power over you.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Pay no mind to the number who signed up at teaparty07. I didn't for 11/5 and I gave $500. There were less than 16000 then signed up.

I am not signed up for 12/16 either, but I will be contributing $1000.

Same here. Well, except the 1000 part. That's too steep for me at the moment. I think 7 million is very realistic.

The free media being given to Huckabee does piss me off a little. I spoke to a few people who watched the debate that were undecided types and considering Hillary, of all people. They *can* see the way Paul is being treated. I thought it was just Paul supporters that notice things like that. It's not. They aren't happy with it, either.

So, the media can push Huckabee, and keep jabbering about McCain. They can't stop the train, though. I never thought I'd see it, but it's real.

 

[InRonWeTrust]

The reason they are pushing Minister Huckabee is that the MSM knows he is not electable nationwide, and would be an easy opponent for Hillary. He appeals only to the Christian sheep, but would get slaughtered nationally because he is far too religious.

 

[Focus Liberty]

http://news.aol.com/elections
another new poll went up today at aol and Rudy is winning it. please vote soon.

 

[Midnight77]

http://news.aol.com/elections
another new poll went up today at aol and Rudy is winning it. please vote soon.

AOL has definitely set the poll. No doubt about it. Saw it happen last time, and here it is again.

 

[tabish]

Damn that huckster guy. I don't like him. Wait till New Hampshire Primaries.

 

[SovereignMN]

Just FYI:

There are currently three candidates that are not CFR: Paul, Kucinch and Gravel. The last president that was not CFR was Regan but, once in office, all his high level cabinet department heads and advisors were CFR which is why Reagan never got around to actually doing some of the things he promised during his campaign like abolishing the Jimmy Carter created Dept. of Education.

Are Tancredo and Hunter members of the CFR?

 

[Original_Intent]

People have become conditioned to believe that "conspiracy" = "not true" + "crazy".

Of course conspiracies exist, all a conspiracy is are people working in a secretive manner to accomplish a goal.

People who laugh of "conspiracy nuts" are merely uninformed and have been well programmed to respond in the desired manner when being challenged by any information that does not fit their world view, a world view that has been prepackaged and downloaded to their brain via the boob tube.

When you are dealing with power of how the world is going to be run, you would have to be crazy or very poorly informed to NOT believe that there are conspiracies in abundance involved.

I did not know that Huckabee was CFR, I heard he met with them recently before his sudden rise to glory, but I didn't realize he was a member.

BTW, the password for tonight's super secret meeting is "Adam Weishaupt".

 

[Richard in Austin]

I was just reading about this today. Apparently (I don't know for sure), Huckabee wasn't a member of the CFR until recently. Supposedly he was invited recently, and that explains his sudden 'surge'.