Whats so bad about Fred Thompson?

[devil21]

I was leaning Thompson. Thank the powers that be, I heard the Dr. Paul message.

Perfect. Can you explain why you liked Fred before you found RP?

 

[ARealConservative]

Do a search on Fred Thompson and lobbyist activities.

Dictators, asbestos, gun control. (these are from memory, but it's out there).

He really is an actor playing conservative.

Here is one such article:

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=11189

 

[mudburn]

I have at least three things against Fred:

1. He's an actor.

2. He's a lawyer.

3. He's a lobbyist.

He also makes me think of one of those bobbing head dolls when he talks. Kinda like ol' Siggy here

dp

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

All of this is good stuff, but can anyone point to specific votes, bills. etc. Its just that our guy suffers a lot from hearsay. So i would like to give them the respect i expect for Ron Paul-proof.

Just linked this, but this site provides Positive and Negative Illegal Immigration votes for every politician.

This is Fred Thompson's record
http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TN&VIPID=743

This is Ron Paul's record
http://profiles.numbersusa.com/improfile.php3?DistSend=TX&VIPID=787

This should give you some good talking points, and real information to use.

 

[noztnac]

Fred is a little slow. Please don't pick on retarded people.

 

[JiMMy_247]

Cool, thanks. Whats this... amnesty? This is the kind of stuff i was looking for; looks like Ive got some reading to do. This will help immensely. Feel free to add to this thread but these immigration sites do a pretty good job. Thanks again.

 

[JiMMy_247]

I noticed something odd at the site that grades politicians on their immigration record. Ron Paul got a B+ and Fred Thompson got a C. Yet this was on their front page:


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How Good Are The Promises of GOP Candidates to Prevent Amnesties & Send Current Illegal Aliens Home?

ABYSMAL -- John McCain
ABYSMAL -- Rudy Giuliani
FAIR -- Mike Huckabee
GOOD -- Ron Paul
EXCELLENT -- Mitt Romney
EXCELLENT -- Fred Thompson
EXCELLENT -- Duncan Hunter

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This kind of crap gives me a headache.

 

[ConstitutionReinstitution]

He voted for the Patriot act.
He voted for the Homeland Security act

Here is his record of anti-gun votes:

http://gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

 

[constitutional]

Regardless of what the media may say, he is gaining a LOT of traction here in SC. Personally I've watched him in the debates and he just sounds like a moron to me.... its like listening to a broken air conditioner trying to run. rrrrrrrrrrr*Rrr*RR.... He says all these nonsense phrases that mean nothing but people love it-just like Obama and Huckabee do. I never really took the time to dig much on him-he's no Ron Paul-thats good enough for me, but what specifically can i use to educate people about him here in SC? Immigration is BIG here, btw.

The guy reads off of a script in the debate.

When caught off guard, he is "dumb as hell" as Nixon had said about him.

Did you see how Ron pwned him on economy issue at the debate hosted in NH: "Keep trying [Fred], you'll come around..."

 

[Indy Vidual]

Show them this!

Regardless of what the media may say, he is gaining a LOT of traction here in SC. Personally I've watched him in the debates and he just sounds like a moron to me.... its like listening to a broken air conditioner trying to run. rrrrrrrrrrr*Rrr*RR.... He says all these nonsense phrases that mean nothing but people love it-just like Obama and Huckabee do. I never really took the time to dig much on him-he's no Ron Paul-thats good enough for me, but what specifically can i use to educate people about him here in SC? Immigration is BIG here, btw.

Make-Believe Reagan
-From Rolling Stone

I can say exactly when I first knew that Fred Dalton Thompson is dangerous...

"Did he just say . . . ?"

"Yeah," the guy says, dumbfounded. "He just said being president isn't that hard."

I'm still trying to process this when I spot Carl Cameron, the right-wing hatchet man for Fox News. Cameron is whaling on Thompson, doing a mocking impersonation of the candidate's "Security, Unity, Prosperity" campaign shtick.

"We're, uh, gonna be yoo-nited bah owre yoo-nity!" Cameron cracks.

A crowd of reporters doubles over in laughter. Then they get in their vehicles and chase after Thompson to the next event, so they can feverishly record those same hackneyed lines again and again for posterity. They'll laugh in private, but they'll be repeating that shit on air with a straight face for the next 400 days.


What Thompson inspires is something much more appropriate for Americans of the TV age: He gets audiences purring in a cozy stupor. Their eyes glaze over and they end up looking like a bunch of flies happily lapping up their own puke...


...What Thompson is selling is escapism, pure and simple. He's selling America not as a vast adventure epic but as a timid, forty-seven-minute made-for-cable movie about a folksy small-town dad -- a fantasy that makes no sense at all in the context of a massive militarized oligarchy currently occupying half the world's deserts on borrowed money.

The people who are buying this fantasy are buying out of fear, because they can't bear to look anymore. They've simply given up trying to deal. If Thompson wins -- and he very well might -- that's what it'll be: total surrender. The lowest we've ever sunk.

 

[JiMMy_247]

I almost fell out of my seat laughing when Ron Paul told Thompson "Keep tryin." in that one debate. In this last debate though.... i just smacked my forehead when just after Ron went off talking about economic issues, Thompson said, we should trust the Fed.

 

[acroso]

Thompson loves war and is a dumbass? yes..yes he is.

 

[JiMMy_247]

What Thompson is selling is escapism, pure and simple. He's selling America not as a vast adventure epic but as a timid, forty-seven-minute made-for-cable movie about a folksy small-town dad -- a fantasy that makes no sense at all in the context of a massive militarized oligarchy currently occupying half the world's deserts on borrowed money.

That says it all-exactly how i feel when i watch people applaud him... and it's scary as hell.

 

[angelatc]

Cool, thanks. Whats this... amnesty? This is the kind of stuff i was looking for; looks like Ive got some reading to do. This will help immensely. Feel free to add to this thread but these immigration sites do a pretty good job. Thanks again.

If you want people who can quote chapter and verse about immigration, try www.alipac.us .

 

[Dave Pedersen]

Fred Thompson has an awesome set of vocal chords. That's the only thing I can think of to explain his marginal success.

 

[angrydragon]

http://gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

 

[Pete]

Fred was a driver in the McCain-Feingold-Thompson Incumbent Protection, er, Campaign Finance Reform bill.

Extensive article here: http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/...lain-speaking”_about_mccain-feingold-thompson

There was no more adamant supporter of campaign finance reform and the regulation of political speech and issue ads that Senator Thompson. His support was not reluctant; it was enthusiastic and repeated. He actively and enthusiastically supported regulation of and, ultimately, total prohibition of corporate and labor union issue ads, which he never viewed as a "mistake." The issue ad prohibition was not added by others, as he claimed, but was an essential feature of the campaign finance proposals he co-sponsored, voted for, and diverted his own Senate committee's investigation to justify. In short, Senator Thompson devoted much energy in the Senate to gutting the First Amendment.