What's going on in this Ron Paul Picture?

"Meat is food" - Ted Nugent

Seriously vegans, I noticed nobody has addressed my earlier post about metabolic typing. Care to explain why Eskimos who eat nothing but meat and animal fat are some of if not the healthiest people in the world? Not only that but as soon as they abandon their traditional diet they start getting chronic diseases at a rate way higher than your average white person eating the same thing. If being vegan makes you feel good fine but don't assume you know whats best for everybody else.

There's also the fact that if deer aren't hunted they'll overpopulate and have to be shot anyway. At least with hunting they get used for a worthwhile purpose. Not to mention wild game is way healthier than commercially farmed meat.
 
affa said:
Yea, quoting a single word from my post does a whole lot for 'context'.

I make choices for myself. I don't make them for other people. I live by example, not by force. Yes, dead animals 'bother' me. But that photo is only a photo - Ron Paul is not gloating over the animal, if anything, he looks concerned. Put it this way - if someone showed me a deer in a truck, I might lean over to touch it too... snap, photo, and your point is? A picture of me next to a deer?

But you're just trying to be divisive and push buttons as is obvious by this entire thread:
1. you posted that a picture would turn off Ron Paul people and was evidence of the death of his campaign.
2. you called people names and a random woman in a photograph a 'bitch'.
3. you argue with anyone and everyone, insulting them.
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1. The picture turns me off. That I can guarantee you.

2. Except for my first comment, every other comment I've made has been a response to other people who responded to my comments. I have not initiated one argument on this thread. I called that girl a bitch and I would just as easily call her that again. But I challange you to find one name I've called any person who has commented on this thread.

3. I haven't even responded to all those people who have disagreed with me.
danberkley said "Would have sucked to be you in archaic times" and I have not responded and I don't intend to respond. pacelli called one of my comments "poor taste" and I haven't responded. maeqFreedomfree called me ignorant but I chose not to respond.

And I don't make choices for other people. But that doesn't mean that I must be silent. Like Ron Paul I have never used illegal drugs in my entire life, and yet I am against them being illegal for Constitutional, moral as well as practical reasons. If people want to go out killing animals that's their right and I'd hate to live in a country that made it illegal to hunt. But hunting is a deplorable lifestyle. And as long as I have the right to say that, I will. Just because hunters have the legal right to hunt animals does not mean that they are entitled to be free from the criticism of people like me who point out the inhumanity of it.
 
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PauliticsPolitics said:
Hunting is way more humane than factory farming.

Hunting:
the animal lives it's life normally, then one day - - BANG.

Factory Farming:
the animal lives a tortured, caged life and if it doesn't die from madcow, then after a few years - - - - BANG.


I'm a vegetarian, but even I can see that hunting is way more humane than this unnatural factory farming. At least go free range.

ps.
for people who do eat meat, i believe it is much more noble for you to take the animal's life yourelf so you can see what that animal is giving you.
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my vegan point of view reitterated...

...for the vegans that are offended by hunting.
 
Matt said:
If being vegan makes you feel good fine but don't assume you know whats best for everybody else.
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From my reading, not one vegan here has posted that veganism is the end all be all diet for every last human being on the planet. Many did say it works for them, and that they are against factory farming and sport hunting.

The person railing against the photo isn't even vegetarian.
 
ronpaulblogsdotcom said:
No antlers kiddies. This aint legal in any state I know of to hunt. This is roadkill most likely.

He must be checking it to make sure it is dead so they dont have to mercy kill it, or try taking it to a vet.
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Does (female deer, not a conjugation of the verb "do") have a hunting season just like bucks. I'm not sure where you hunt where that wouldn't be the case...

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If one must eat meat, hunting is by far and away the most humane method of obtaining it.

However, mass-held livestock are necessary to sustain a large population of meat-eating people. If everyone had to go to the woods to kill a deer for any meat they wanted, white tails (et al.) would go extinct very quickly. Native tribes were able to sustain themselves, because their population sizes were in agreement with the natural scarcity of wildlife... that's not the case anymore, so we have to "grow" our meat, just like we need to have mass agriculture, and can't survive on foraging.

Mass vegetarianism is the only way to avoid corralling and killing animals for food (without killing billions of people), but doesn't seem to stick...hence why people have been herding animals for thousands of years. Good luck selling the mass vegetarian concept, even though it is much healthier. :rolleyes:
 
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Airborn said:
do you eat meat? Deer is really good, I love it. What is wrong with people killing wild game and eating it? You know, it's actually better then slaving up cows then slaughtering them? Least they lived free untill they died for a right reason. This is life, nothing is here forever. The deer lives on to his next experience of this crazy hyper-dimensional cycles of being. :D
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Anyone who thinks hunting is not inhumane should watch this clip from "Powder" which is a movie about a man who is born with unusually white skin and extraordinary powers. It's only a movie, I know, but the point is well made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uz80zTMO40
 
I ate vegan once for a whole week as an experiment because I had two vegan friends at the time. My digestive system had never been so offended.

Meat is food, sorry :(

As far as eating vegan being healthier...I've heard it before and I'm not buying it. In my experience the vegans/vegetarians I have known have been much more sickly than myself and other people I know...I only get sick about once a year and it is generally very mild.
 
PauliticsPolitics said:
my vegan point of view reitterated...

...for the vegans that are offended by hunting.
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Sorry, but I have never seen him Pander.
As I have seen, he respects everyones rights. I have heard that he does not hunt, but has done some shooting. As I remember when this pic was first shown, It was a deer shot that day, and happened to be a supporter at a rally.
If I am not mistaken, It was in NH and in a rural area where hunting was common.
If you chose to eat or not eat, it is your choice. If you chose to hunt or not, is your choice.
Making that choice for others, is not.
It is your problem if you are offended at the freedom of choices of others.

Ron Paul does not pander.
 
FreeTraveler said:
A) It's only a movie, grow up.
B) It's only a movie, it has an agenda to sell.
C) Nobody will ever force you to shoot bambi.
D) Emotional pleas are faulty logic.
E) Grow up.
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Of course it's just a movie.

The Network was just a movie that had an agenda but that doesn't stop us Ron Paul supporters from using clips from it. Braveheart was just a movie that was made to rake in a lot of cash but that didn't stop us Ron Paul supporters from being inspired by it. V for Vendetta was just a movie with an agenda but that didn't stop us from centering an entire money bomb day around it. Freedom To Fascism is just a movie with an agenda... I could go on and on.

Let me repeat myself (again). If you haven't seen this clip and believe that hunting deer is not inhumane, I dare you to watch it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uz80zTMO40
 
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I love this picture.
 
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Cute little deer make great tenderloin.
Cute little bunnies taste wonderful.
Wild turkey make a wonderful food and drink.
For those of you who think hunting is dispicable. . .
don't hunt. Let me know who you are and I will shoot
an extra deer next year for you.
Here in NW TN, we have a problem with the deer population.

BTW-----Using the Powder clip to "prove" that hunting is
inhumane is like using a Harry Potter clip to prove that
wizzards are real. Its just. . . . just dumb. It is a fallacious
argument from a unrealistic scene. Just dumb.
 
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