What you will now see from the Media

[paulitics]

Like I said I agree with the points made here but since this is a self defense issue against losing a U.S. city I do not believe this is a Neocon issue. There are conflicting reports on Iran's capability but forgetting them for a minute it could be Pakistan or Russia that loses a nuke to a terrorist group or rogue region. A not all that far out scenario considering instability in Pakistan where they have had to repel direct attacks on thier nuclear installations.

I also vaguely remember something about possibly including Russia in the shield and involving them in command and control. I am not sure if that was ever presented or it just did not fly with Russia or with the Pentagon. If we are involving them at that point it negates all the points made above and gives legitimacy to fear of such a rogue launch.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/19/world/europe/19iht-nato.4.7966307.html

You can make that same sensationalist argument (the Jack Bauer scenario) of losing an American city and apply it to any neocon policy.

Torture, wiretapping, extraordianary rendition, limiting free speech, shuttting down the internet, and any power grab by the government all become fair game. Afterall we are talking about millions of people.

The whole premise is a false premise, that we are more safe by interfering with Russian affairs, and encircling them with NATO troops, etc.. We are much less safe.

I'm going to repeat it again. Installing the missle shield is an act of war as stated Russian policy. This is no different than our policy if the situation was reversed. Do you want to go to war with Russia? Do you know how friggin dangerous that is? That is what is going to set off a nucleur war.

 

[Conza88]

WTF happened during the Bush years on the "left" side of politics?

Think ffs... did they change anything?

What the hell do you think is taking place right now?!

You'll look back on this...

"WTF happened during the Obama years on the "right" side of politics?

For crying out loud... when Ron Paul supporters don't learn, what fcken hope is there?

Drop the kool-aid folks.

 

[Romulus]

Glen's ahead of the curve as well folks. So far ahead he's dropped the neo-con shtick and started with the 'libertarian' one. So now, libertarians are nothing more than neo-con republicans. Were all the same backwoods-hick-right wing-extremists and make make up one party called the republicans.

He's grouping us right in.

 

[brandon]

bump

 

[Joe3113]

bump

Good idea.


Hannity was discussing Keynesian vs Austrian economics
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=217353

 

[sofia]

Why are you against the missile defense shield? I understand the part about Russia not being our enemy but it is my understanding the stated purpose is to prevent a long range nuke from Iran. Why would we not want this?

I have heard people say if we change our foreign policy then they would not want to nuke us but there is no guarantee with the lunatics in Iran. Why not have that protection?

the missiles are aimed at underming Russia, NOT defending against a NON EXISTENT Iranian threat.

RUSSIA IS THE ULTIMATE TARGET OF THE NWO GANG

 

[sevin]

the missiles are aimed at underming Russia, NOT defending against a NON EXISTENT Iranian threat.

RUSSIA IS THE ULTIMATE TARGET OF THE NWO GANG

I'm not very familiar with this theory. What exactly do they have planned for Russia?

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Bump.

Folks don't be foolish, you don't need Fox news or Glen Beck, you don't need the mainstream media. You don't even need to turn on those channels just to see what the MSM is feeding people, just use the internet to hear what they are saying instead of watching entire programs and boosting their ratings. You don't need to be some hardcore conspiracy theorist to figure this one out, just look at the past and search your gut.

 

[LittleLightShining]

You've explained it very well Conza.

I am on the same page as you. Beck and Hannity are not "waking up" to these new ideas. I've seen lots of people think that Beck is now a friend.

They are following a script day in and day out.

You definitely called it in your first post. I hope this thread sticks around, because when people re-join the forums in 3 years, we'll have a lot of people who have bought into the conditioning.

This Beck-Hannity thing is a bunch of baloney.

Makes me sad that Conza's gone The guy was brilliant and insightful and contributed so much to this place.

 

[Romulus]

Makes me sad that Conza's gone The guy was brilliant and insightful and contributed so much to this place.

ditto

 

[Paulitical Correctness]

 

[MsDoodahs]

 

[ClayTrainor]

 

[Pennsylvania]

 

[dannno]

 

[Ekrub]

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[No1ButPaul08]

I'm going to bump this every time someone posts how great Glenn Beck is.

 

[sevin]

I'm going to bump this every time someone posts how great Glenn Beck is.

 

[Trigonx]