What you will now see from the Media

[NMCB3]

Peter Schiff: Obamanomics = Food Lines

Lmao. LOOK at that introduction from Fox NEWS presenter.

Again, more and more evidence. Flick, of, the, switch.

Edit: First guest: "I agree with Peter Schiff straight off the bat."

Hahaha... saaaaay what?! rofl.

Glad to see you have it figured out. I have seen the "flick of a switch" many times before. All the propagandists will be for a certain position then something will change and the next day you flick through the stations listening and presto! just like flicking a switch they all have changed their position at the exact same time in the exact same way. To me it is beyond obvious what is going on but sadly to the mob, and many on this forum, they are unable to see it. They actually think these vermin have changed, nothing could be further from the truth. They get their talking points straight from their respective democratic and republican party's. How do you guys think these vermin get a national radio show?.... first they must play ball at the local level, they pal around with the local party, meet the national party goons, say all the right things on their local show and if their talented enough, lucky enough, and kiss all the right party asses they are rewarded with a national propaganda broadcast of their own. Then they get to hang out with the party big shots, make money and generally stroke their own ego`s because now they are part of the elite. Its group think at its finest and 90% of Americans are sucked into it...Orwell would recognize it for what it is immediately.

 

[NMCB3]

The Neocons are Trying to Blur the line between THEM and US

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/24/books-liberty-and-tyranny-a-conservative-manifesto/

GTFO.

Your absolutely right, Levin doesn't give two shits about liberty, he`s a neocon to the bone. The scary part is how good they are at this game,the vast majority will be sucked in then sold down the river once the republicans regain power. Its like the movie groundhog day...the same shit over and over albeit with a seemingly inexhaustible supply of dupes available to keep the charade going.

 

[Conza88]

Since Hannity is Highjacking The Tea Parties

The NWO Is Taking Over the Patriot and Truth Movements

 

[Maverick]

Godammit, that fat hypocritical douchebag Rush Limbaugh has me really steamed right now. I heard him on his radio show today defending the Somali pirates in ways completely out of his character and totally contradictory to just about everything he's said for the past 8 years.

"President Obama personally ordered the deaths of these 3 teenagers" he says with dismay. The people whom the rest of the world have been referring to as "gun-toting pirates" Rush Limbaugh refers to as "teenagers" (mind you he cited they were 17-19, so at least one of them is obviously even an "adult" by our own standards) and "merchant marine organizers." What's with this use of non-inflammatory language by Rush all of a sudden to describe a non-state violent organization? It's almost as if he's...coddling these pirates.

Imagine the scenario this way: President Bush orders the deaths of several individuals - some of them teenagers and/or children - belonging to a non-state violent organization. You think Rush Limbaugh is going to rise up and attack the president's actions? Hell no, he was right there defending him every step of the way.

Remember the whole fiasco with Haditha and what John Murtha said? Rush has never let him live that down. He called him every name in the book, a vile un-American traitor and so forth. Yet Rush Limbaugh is now saying the same thing, only in a slightly different manner. Murtha targeted the marines for criticism, but Rush has been hammering on Obama. What about the Navy Seals that actually did the shooting? Why isn't this spun as "Rush Limbaugh disgraces the honor of our Navy Seals" the same way it was said that Murtha "disgraced our fine men and women in the Marines?"

The whole thing is really astonishing. Under Bush, Rush never cared how many men, women, and children we blew up for the sake of fighting "terrorists." Now Obama wants to fight some "pirates" and Rush cries foul. Isn't he being a "terrorist-hugger" by his own definition? Whenever anyone opposed Bush's targeting of "terrorists" Rush never missed the opportunity to label them a "terrorist-hugger" or some other such term.

You can bet that had this whole pirate scenario played out under Bush's watch Rush would've been the head of the cheerleading squad. He and other neo-cons would be howling for retribution for the seizure of an American ship. If Bush had acted on the situation in the exact same fashion as Obama had, Rush would be praising him for "getting tough" and "not backing down," and demonizing opposition as "pirate-huggers" and "America-haters."

Rush Limbaugh has always been a hypocrite, so this should all come as no surprise. But this rhetoric, and this incident, it just seems so over-the-top to me, even for him. He's so transparent I don't know how he thinks that we can't just see right through him. He's simply using the situation as an opportunity to smear Obama, nothing more. He hasn't had any sort of change of heart (if he even has a heart) about foreign policy, and he sure as hell doesn't really give a damn about any Somali kids.

 

[ghengis86]

He's so transparent I don't know how he thinks that we can't just see right through him.

We can see through him, but the republican sheeple cannot, or will not, even if they're lives depended on it (they do, suprise, suprise). i work with people who have his show on every morning and hang on every word. its sickening how brainwashed they are.

the false left/right dichotomy is so blatantly obvious, you have to be a complete idiot not to see

 

[pacelli]

Anyone who has been following this thread from the beginning must admit-- you can't complain that nobody told you. Conza88 was way way way ahead of the game on this. And it is just the beginning. Just wait until Alex Jones gets his own FoxNews show.

 

[Dripping Rain]

bump for relevance

 

[carlangaslangas]

http://mises.org/books/betrayal.pdf

Sound familiar?

Thanks for the link!! I really enjoyed "Man, Economy and State", and this one is next on my list. But now I don't have to buy it.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

Godammit, that fat hypocritical douchebag Rush Limbaugh has me really steamed right now. I heard him on his radio show today defending the Somali pirates in ways completely out of his character and totally contradictory to just about everything he's said for the past 8 years.

"President Obama personally ordered the deaths of these 3 teenagers" he says with dismay. The people whom the rest of the world have been referring to as "gun-toting pirates" Rush Limbaugh refers to as "teenagers" (mind you he cited they were 17-19, so at least one of them is obviously even an "adult" by our own standards) and "merchant marine organizers." What's with this use of non-inflammatory language by Rush all of a sudden to describe a non-state violent organization? It's almost as if he's...coddling these pirates.

Imagine the scenario this way: President Bush orders the deaths of several individuals - some of them teenagers and/or children - belonging to a non-state violent organization. You think Rush Limbaugh is going to rise up and attack the president's actions? Hell no, he was right there defending him every step of the way.

Remember the whole fiasco with Haditha and what John Murtha said? Rush has never let him live that down. He called him every name in the book, a vile un-American traitor and so forth. Yet Rush Limbaugh is now saying the same thing, only in a slightly different manner. Murtha targeted the marines for criticism, but Rush has been hammering on Obama. What about the Navy Seals that actually did the shooting? Why isn't this spun as "Rush Limbaugh disgraces the honor of our Navy Seals" the same way it was said that Murtha "disgraced our fine men and women in the Marines?"

The whole thing is really astonishing. Under Bush, Rush never cared how many men, women, and children we blew up for the sake of fighting "terrorists." Now Obama wants to fight some "pirates" and Rush cries foul. Isn't he being a "terrorist-hugger" by his own definition? Whenever anyone opposed Bush's targeting of "terrorists" Rush never missed the opportunity to label them a "terrorist-hugger" or some other such term.

You can bet that had this whole pirate scenario played out under Bush's watch Rush would've been the head of the cheerleading squad. He and other neo-cons would be howling for retribution for the seizure of an American ship. If Bush had acted on the situation in the exact same fashion as Obama had, Rush would be praising him for "getting tough" and "not backing down," and demonizing opposition as "pirate-huggers" and "America-haters."

Rush Limbaugh has always been a hypocrite, so this should all come as no surprise. But this rhetoric, and this incident, it just seems so over-the-top to me, even for him. He's so transparent I don't know how he thinks that we can't just see right through him. He's simply using the situation as an opportunity to smear Obama, nothing more. He hasn't had any sort of change of heart (if he even has a heart) about foreign policy, and he sure as hell doesn't really give a damn about any Somali kids.

You're sarcasm detector is broken.

 

[Bruno]

Anyone who has been following this thread from the beginning must admit-- you can't complain that nobody told you. Conza88 was way way way ahead of the game on this. And it is just the beginning. Just wait until Alex Jones gets his own FoxNews show.

+ 1

Great thread, Conza!

 

[carlangaslangas]

Actually, people do owe their country and their community something. It's called loyalty. When you are disloyal to your country it is called TREASON. When media types go out of their way to support the globalist agenda, the false right/left, etc they are committing treason. They are only helping to end the sovereignty of the nation.

I am as frustrated as you are. But I prefer to think in terms of loyalty to the Constitution. And the first amendment gives MSM, and our forums, the right to express our opinion.

It's going to be hard to break the two party system, when the media has so much money invested in maintaining it. After all, the bipolar system has been sooo good for ratings. The masses love to see people attacking, insulting, berating each other: Fox vs MSNBC, Dems vs GOP. And the MSM just profits from it. It's easy to blame the media, but you can't blame them for that. They'll always play whatever people want to hear. No, I believe it's our Congress, and the citizens that elected these douchebags representatives. But mostly I blame those that do not even care to vote, or have not spent enough time researching the candidates.

 

[JdotRdot]

I blame those that do not even care to vote, or have not spent enough time researching the candidates.

i believe less people should vote, till eventually nobody votes
i wonder what would happen in such an event

i've only ever voted once in my entire life, & it was just to get my voting card punctured for ID purposes...i have absolutely no faith in the political system, many people feel the same way i do, they see voting as a wasted effort...the voter turn out for this last election was 60 something %

not voting shows that less & less people believe in politics...Obama sure did conjure up a lot of emotion in apathetic people, but come next election i expect the numbers to drop back down, maybe even lower than before

voting serves no purpose when the options are so limited & when we have so many idiots out there, what we need is re-education to hit these disillusioned souls

 

[devil21]

I am as frustrated as you are. But I prefer to think in terms of loyalty to the Constitution. And the first amendment gives MSM, and our forums, the right to express our opinion.

It's going to be hard to break the two party system, when the media has so much money invested in maintaining it. After all, the bipolar system has been sooo good for ratings. The masses love to see people attacking, insulting, berating each other: Fox vs MSNBC, Dems vs GOP. And the MSM just profits from it. It's easy to blame the media, but you can't blame them for that. They'll always play whatever people want to hear. No, I believe it's our Congress, and the citizens that elected these douchebags representatives. But mostly I blame those that do not even care to vote, or have not spent enough time researching the candidates.

I liken the MSM and it's agenda pushing to a First Amendment exclusion like yelling "FIRE!!" in a crowded theater. You are free to say what you wish as long as you aren't directly harming anyone else or infringing anyone else's rights. The MSM harms everyone and their agenda infringes our rights.

 

[eOs]

you guys are wayyy behind on the times.....conza posted a great piece on the MSM that will really open your eyes
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=177088&page=1

oh wait..

 

[paulitics]

I am as frustrated as you are. But I prefer to think in terms of loyalty to the Constitution. And the first amendment gives MSM, and our forums, the right to express our opinion.

It's going to be hard to break the two party system, when the media has so much money invested in maintaining it. After all, the bipolar system has been sooo good for ratings. The masses love to see people attacking, insulting, berating each other: Fox vs MSNBC, Dems vs GOP. And the MSM just profits from it. It's easy to blame the media, but you can't blame them for that. They'll always play whatever people want to hear. No, I believe it's our Congress, and the citizens that elected these douchebags representatives. But mostly I blame those that do not even care to vote, or have not spent enough time researching the candidates.

I wish it were all about ratings for the media. It is not, it is about control. The media's ratings are abysmal due to their lack of investigative journalism and integrity reporting the news. Do you know how many stories not being reported or investigated by the media? We are living in incredible times, where corruption exceeds the watergate scandal on a daily basis. Ratings could be through the roof, and in the meantime our republic could resist tyrrany through an honest media.

No, the big media outlets are a giant filter that only presents a naive and ignorant view of the world. Any show that has decent ratings now, are the ones that speak a modicum of truth to power (although it is just a glimmer of true reality) Most breaking news stories come from blogs that do not have million dollar payrolls or any payrolls, or harvard degree journalists. The media giants are owned and controlled by a few corporations and a few very wealthy elite that have a different agenda than what is good for America and her sovereignty.

If it were a truly free market, the message of liberty and individual responsibility would rival the statist, big daddy government loving networks and newspapers today, and keep them in check. When ever single one of them have the same big government loving view of the world, you have a problem, you have a monopoly.

There are talks of bailouts for GE (owns msnbc and others), or for some establishment newspapers. This should tell you all you need to know about the relationship between the government and the media. It is not about ratings, but about control.

 

[Conza88]

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[Theocrat]

Duh

In particular; I will focus on Fox News.

Since the President has changed, the party has changed, the INTENDED perception has changed, so does the media's overt agenda for each channel.

For the last 8 years Fox News has blatantly been pro-war, pro-fascism, pro-bush, pro-whatever they were told to be.

In those 8 years, it became to be seen for what it was - a propaganda network. It WASN'T just limited to them, but they were the obvious douchebags, they were the ones defending the state, the wars, Bush, etc.

Now, over the same last few years, in particular, all the attacks of Bush etc.... have been coming from the likes of Keith Olberman, MSNBC, etc. all the "lefties".

During this time, they gained credibility etc. Denounced wars, whatever. They "told it like it is". No real obvious "propaganda". (Obviously MASSIVE AMOUNTS, I'm just taking this from a laymans perspective... the general sheeple, who are now following Obama like drones)

Anyway, now that Obama is President, the script is going to flip.

MSNBC, CNN, Hardball, Olberman etc. THEY will become the propaganda outlets. THEY will be the NEW FAUX NEWS!

They speak out against the regime, when their "side" is not in power. NOTHING ever gets done, its all chatter in the wind, it SEEMS like there is vocal opposition to the status quo, but it really means jack squat.

This is why Glenn Beck moved to Fox News. They are now the ANTI-STATUS QUO CHANNEL. See his show? He's calling government



This is, there ain't nothing funny about it. FISHY is more like it.

So expect to start questioning yourself when Fox News actually say shit that makes sense, like Libertarian style stuff. (Won't be all the time, but more so than ever) Like actual Conservative, Glen Beck type of comments. All the trolls start to appear ok. It is because they are the new anti-status quo channel, who won't do shit against the other tide of public opinion and media.

People go, Fox News attacking Obama? Yeah, no wonder they supported Iraq, Bush, Neocons etc. They'll instantly dismiss whatever it is, and kling to the MSNBC, CNN BULLSHIT that will be thrown at them.

*sigh*

It is all part of the false paradigm. It is all coerced. It doesn't "just" happen.

</hopefully sensical rant>

It's inevitable.

 

[BenIsForRon]

Hey speaking of conspiracy, Bill Moyers Journal only comes on very late on friday nights, so nobody will watch it. I wonder who at PBS decided to put it in such a terrible timeslot?

 

[JoshLowry]

bump all you need to read is the first post in this thread

 

[Conza88]

bump all you need to read is the first post in this thread

:o Thanks Josh

relevant bump.