What would you do now ? Write-in Paul/Abstain/Gary Johnson/Romney/Obama ?

[VBRonPaulFan]

matt able from va will be calling me back to clarify uncertified write-in candidates and how we can get him on as a write-in or on ballot, usually on ballot deadline have passed but we will see about certified write-ins soon.

Cool, let me know. I looked into it at one point, and the rules looked like to be counted as a write in candidate, the campaign simply had to file a form with the board of elections.

If the Paul campaign didn't file the necessary statement of intent to be counted as a write-in here, i'll vote GJ instead. I'm not giving that liberal piece of shit Romney my vote, and i'm sure as hell not voting for Obama either.

 

[speciallyblend]

i had to leave a message for cali, waiting on call back

 

[speciallyblend]

Cool, let me know. I looked into it at one point, and the rules looked like to be counted as a write in candidate, the campaign simply had to file a form with the board of elections.

If the Paul campaign didn't file the necessary statement of intent to be counted as a write-in here, i'll vote GJ instead. I'm not giving that liberal piece of shit Romney my vote, and i'm sure as hell not voting for Obama either.

see that is the catch like in kentucky, the only way to get on the ballot is for ron paul to do so not us. I will verify va soon but what you said sounds right, so unless ron paul signs off to be put on the ballot himself in kentucky and possibly va, then not one write-in for ron paul in either state will be counted. unless your in a state that counts uncertified write-ins and i have not found one yet. then they will not count the write-ins. i will verify va soon. but what you said sounds right.

 

[speciallyblend]

i beg anyone to give me a state that counts uncertified write-ins and tallies them for ron paul, so far pa doesn't,kentucky doesn't and colorado doesn't ,can anyone give me one state that counts uncertified ballots and tallies them statewide. i challenge anyone to give me the state so ican call and verify so far none have passed the test unless you get ron paul to sign off and petition the state.

 

[speciallyblend]

look folks i want your ron paul vote to be counted but if they are not going to count it or total it state wide. Then might as well vote on ps3 sims. Yes i like gary johnson over obamney. I support Gary Johnson in Colorado because ron paul is never going to be counted in colorado. Someone on rpf show me a state where gary is certified and they will count uncertified ron paul votes. I am begging someone to give me one state that will count ron paul uncertified votes. show me the state so i can verify with their election board. so far pa only list it as a scattered vote along with rosanne barr but you will never know how many ron got because they will call it a scattered vote that is it. kentucky will not count any ron paul votes unless ron paul files and pay 50 bucks himself period. colorado will never count a ron paul vote unless you certified him on the ballot in july. I tired to warn folks to deaf ears on rpf about colorado back in the summer. everyone said no need he would be the gop nominee, for those folks i now have to vote gary johnson and have no problem voting gary johnson. i just want your vote to count and not on sims ps3. deadline for ron paul himself to file in kentucky is oct 26th

 

[speciallyblend]

a ron paul write- in vote will only be tallied and counted statewide if 1 ron paul applies as a write-in and is certified by deadlines or 2 he is a certified write-in candidate. i have yet to have any rpf member give me one state that will count uncertified votes for ron paul and list ron paul as the votes statewide, 0 yet. I challenge anyone to give me one state that will count ron paul write-in votes that are uncertified through the state.

Just give me the name of one state that will actually count uncertified ron paul votes statewide.

 

[Dogsoldier]

"Face it, our country is a 2 party system, and the libertarian party isn't going to magically become a viable 3rd party"

BECAUSE YOU WON'T VOTE FOR THEM!!!!If you want anything to change you have to change the way you vote its frikkin common sense...You people are killing me.

 

[speciallyblend]

i am probably wasting my time since ron paulers can be as hard headed as corrupt neo-cons. yet to find one state that actually tallies uncertified candidates. maybe cali is the one but we need 40 plus states to count write-ins for ron paul and i am just not seeing it. in effect folks would only feel good but have no impact voting a vote that will never be counted.

 

[Red Green]

I'm voting Obama. I just want Romney to lose, even if it means 4 more years of Obama. The way I look at it, Obama has been good for the liberty movement; even people who were not antagonistic to the feds have become enlightened as to how oppressive it can be.

 

[erowe1]

I haven't decided yet whether I will write in RP or vote for GJ. I've heard persuasive arguments for both.

You can vote for GJ. And then when GJ loses you can still try to support RP with SA's and my electoral college strategy. Don't let TPTB distract you with that beauty contest in November. It's all about the electoral college!

 

[lakefx]

GJ as protest vote is an option, but when Romney loses, GOP might blame us Paul supporters for working against the GOP, thus giving them an excuse in the future against any Liberty candidate - not that they wont do anything to bring down any such candidate otherwise !!

My opinion differs. If the GOP sees the SIZE of the mistake they made demoralizing, dividing, disenfranchising, and ignoring us...They will have NO CHOICE but to put up a liberty candidate in 2016.

If that support for GJ is big enough, the LP gets funding, debates...and the landscape is changed for many years to come. It forces the GOP to be honest, it forces the Dems to be honest. And it gives them a whole new demographic they are now forced to listen to and work with for the sake of their relevance to a growing majority that doesn't know its a majority.

 

[erowe1]

My opinion differs. If the GOP sees the SIZE of the mistake they made demoralizing, dividing, disenfranchising, and ignoring us...They will have NO CHOICE but to put up a liberty candidate in 2016.

Similar things have happened before.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11018.html

 

[speciallyblend]

i will stop, i am wasting my time on rpf/dp and wasting my time with ron paul supporters. if your going to write in ron paul your better off writing in ron paul on sims ps3 they will count there. the most demoralizing aspect to the ron paul movement is ron paulers and the anti-gary thick headed wasting their vote ron paulers writing in a vote that will never be counted. i am better off watching nfl then trying to bother wasting my time on ron paulers. People trying to write in ron paul when ron paul is not certified in the state are better off quiting and not voting. I will focus on colorado for now so im out again. It is beyond me how folks ignore common sense. screw getting gary in the debates if i can write in ron paul and not have my vote counted and not have to vote gary to get him in the debates. I try to give folks facts and you ignore them so you can feel good about nothing when you make a vote that will never be counted. save your time buy sims and vote on sims. I will vote gary johnson in colorado and hopefully poll for him so he can get in debates not one write in will get ron paul in a debate unless he joins the jophnson ticket for a vp debate. I thought sailing away would see the power in this vote if he cannot see it. why the f bother. i just wasted 1 hr letting folks know pa,kentucky and colorado are wasted vote for scattered or not counted at all. rpf has become a cluster f of circle jerking ron paulers! just a big sticky mess of spent cum. rpf is depressing. hey i got an idea vote ron paul in a state that will never tally the ron paul votes that will show them.

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

a ron paul write- in vote will only be tallied and counted statewide if 1 ron paul applies as a write-in and is certified by deadlines or 2 he is a certified write-in candidate. i have yet to have any rpf member give me one state that will count uncertified votes for ron paul and list ron paul as the votes statewide, 0 yet. I challenge anyone to give me one state that will count ron paul write-in votes that are uncertified through the state.

Just give me the name of one state that will actually count uncertified ron paul votes statewide.

it isn't necessarily wasted if you write-in Ron Paul and the state won't count it. those are votes of registered republicans not going to the Republican candidate. if the state GOP knows there are say, 100,000 registered republicans, and say only 50% of those registered republicans voted for Romney... it'll be pretty obvious that the balance of them either weren't excited enough to come vote for Rmoney, or they voted for someone else. as long as you don't vote for Romney, you're sending a message and doing the right thing.

 

[Eire4RonPaul]

I can understand feeling good about writing in Ron Paul but the fact of the matter is that the people that "write-in" are doing nothing more than splitting the liberty vote. If we have 50% voting for the only liberty candidate left in the race Gary Johnson and the other 50% thinking they're doing a great job writing in Paul then who exactly does that
help?! It helps the Establishment parties and they'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Looking back at this next year, who will be able to say they won't regret the fact that they didn't give it their all to get a third party into the official national debates with Obama and Romney? This is a real opportunity here. Let's get Gary the 15% to make a fool or Romney and Obama on TV. Do you honestly believe there won't be a position in cabinet for Ron Paul if Gary Johnson wins?! Paul has already stated he likes Gary - he can't come out with it now because of Rands political career. I say F*ck them.

Give the Libertarian Party your all - just for 3 months. Trust me, it will go a hell of a lot further than a Paul write in at this stage. Mitt is already fearful of Johnson - he's making waves to get him thrown off the ballot.

 

[erowe1]

I can understand feeling good about writing in Ron Paul but the fact of the matter is that the people that "write-in" are doing nothing more than splitting the liberty vote. If we have 50% voting for the only liberty candidate left in the race Gary Johnson and the other 50% thinking they're doing a great job writing in Paul then who exactly does that
help?!

If GJ gets 2% of the vote and RP write-ins get 2% of the vote, that helps nobody.

If GJ gets 4% of the vote (which he won't no matter what any of us do), that also helps nobody.

 

[Ekrub]

If GJ gets 2% of the vote and RP write-ins get 2% of the vote, that helps nobody.

If GJ gets 4% of the vote (which he won't no matter what any of us do), that also helps nobody.

If GJ gets 4% of the vote it will bring the GOP to the libertarian right in the next election.

 

[erowe1]

If GJ gets 4% of the vote it will bring the GOP to the libertarian right in the next election.

Good point. There's a good chance you're right. But the same thing happens if GJ gets 2% and RP write-ins get 2%.

 

[WesSeid]

Edit: Actually reconsidering now lol I don't like what GJ is saying about foreign policy at all.

I don't like all of Gary's stances, but if he wants the military to beat up some child abusers in Africa while also having the military leave Afghanistan NOW, I'll take that.

Let's get Gary the 15% to make a fool or Romney and Obama on TV. Do you honestly believe there won't be a position in cabinet for Ron Paul if Gary Johnson wins?!

I wonder if Paul would mind Gary saying something about that, (since obviously Ron is trying to protect Rand's future). That would bring people on board without Paul needing to say anything about it. Gary could simply say something like, "If I'm elected, I will offer Dr. Paul the position of Secretary of Awesome" or whatever.

If GJ gets 2% of the vote and RP write-ins get 2% of the vote, that helps nobody.

If GJ gets 4% of the vote (which he won't no matter what any of us do), that also helps nobody.

If GJ gets 4% of the vote, maybe the 2016 candidate gets 6% or 10%.

What was the Ron Paul % in 2008 vs. 2012? yeah.

 

[erowe1]

If GJ gets 4% of the vote, maybe the 2016 candidate gets 6% or 10%.

What was the Ron Paul % in 2008 vs. 2012? yeah.

1) What the 2016 candidate gets has nothing to do with what GJ gets in 2012.
2) So what if the 2016 candidate gets 6% or 10%? Why should anyone care about that?

I'm not arguing against voting for GJ. It's what I'm probably going to do. I'm just arguing against pretending it matters.

The important part of the 2012 presidential race is over. The people who were saving up their money and energy to campaign for GJ this fall missed it.