What would you do now ? Write-in Paul/Abstain/Gary Johnson/Romney/Obama ?

[J_White]

Considering that the farce that was the GOP convention is now over, after they got the result they wanted.
What are the options now and which ones do you intend to do ?

Write-in Dr. Paul
Abstain
Vote GJ
Vote Rmoney
Vote Obummer.

For me the first three options are open, in that order.
Write-in would not be counted so wont make any difference or mark on anything,other than on my conscience.
Abstaining is the easiest and again wont change anything.
GJ as protest vote is an option, but when Romney loses, GOP might blame us Paul supporters for working against the GOP, thus giving them an excuse in the future against any Liberty candidate - not that they wont do anything to bring down any such candidate otherwise !!

 

[Scott F]

I'm writing in Ron Paul. Face it, our country is a 2 party system, and the libertarian party isn't going to magically become a viable 3rd party. Our best bet for liberty is to bring it into the GOP. Voting for Gary Johnson they won't even remember the numbers when the election is done. But if Romney loses, and they see 10% Ron Paul write-ins or whatever, they are going to realize they need to embrace us or be destroyed term after term. If you don't vote they aren't even going to notice. Lets send them a message.

 

[J_White]

I quite agree with you, even if we do spike GJ's numbers, it would not make the news and he cannot certainly be a real challenger to the Republicrat candidates, so its basically a waste.
But are write-in votes counted ? in all states or some states ? would they be reported and get any mention on the news ? i suspect it would not.
also i dont think it matters for the GOP bosses whether they win or lose, they just want to continue the current destructive policies.

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

I am Going to Try to force a brokered Electoral College Convention
By Way of GrassRoots Write-In Campaign

Thank God For our founding fathers !!!

Learn Why and How HERE
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?388018-Calling-All-Delegates-Pacs-and-all-Liberty-Lovers-!-Please-Rally-To-our-Cause!

 

[fr33]

I haven't decided yet whether I will write in RP or vote for GJ. I've heard persuasive arguments for both.

 

[jointhefightforfreedom]

I haven't decided yet whether I will write in RP or vote for GJ. I've heard persuasive arguments for both.

How About Electing Paul For POTUS in 2012
See above post

 

[Ekrub]

I quite agree with you, even if we do spike GJ's numbers, it would not make the news and he cannot certainly be a real challenger to the Republicrat candidates, so its basically a waste.
But are write-in votes counted ? in all states or some states ? would they be reported and get any mention on the news ? i suspect it would not.
also i dont think it matters for the GOP bosses whether they win or lose, they just want to continue the current destructive policies.

Most states dont count write in votes. Can someone tell me what is wrong with Gary Johnson? Everyone agrees he should have have tried for that senate seat. If he is good enough to vote for in the senate he is good enough to vote for President. I don't care what party.

 

[fr33]

Most states dont count write in votes. Can someone tell me what is wrong with Gary Johnson? Everyone agrees he should have have tried for that senate seat. If he is good enough to vote for in the senate he is good enough to vote for President. I don't care what party.

I have a problem with the fact that he's not into Austrian economics, supports military interventionism, and is pro-choice. I haven't ruled him out as a protest vote but that is what is wrong with Gary Johnson for me.

 

[Ekrub]

I have a problem with the fact that he's not into Austrian economics, supports military interventionism, and is pro-choice. I haven't ruled him out as a protest vote but that is what is wrong with Gary Johnson for me.

I fail to see where Gary Johnson has been anything but a true fiscal conservative, or has called for military adventurism. You are right about him being pro-choice, but given that an issue like that wont be solved any time soon, that shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone looking to stick it to the GOP. Ive been a Paul supporter until the end. But if we are to prove anything as a movement, I believe voting for GJ as a way to show our strength is the best move. I'd encourage you to strongly consider this. I can't blame people for voting with their conscience, but if we are to survive as a movement I think we need to band together right now.

 

[sailingaway]

If write in isn't counted or if you abstain, the recorded number of voters minus the recorded number of votes for the named presidential candidates = a vote of no confidence, or 'none of the above', imho. The numbers are public and if the number is significant WE could spread it. Voting for Ron reflects my views, voting for a candidate I don't want, doesn't.

 

[Ekrub]

If write in isn't counted or if you abstain, the recorded number of voters minus the recorded number of votes for the named presidential candidates = a vote of no confidence, or 'none of the above', imho. The numbers are public and if the number is significant WE could spread it. Voting for Ron reflects my views, voting for a candidate I don't want, doesn't.

The MSM will ignore that. They can't ignore a 2-5% showing by GJ. If GJ so offends your views, by all means write in Ron Paul. I just fail to see how liberty lovers aren't jumping at this opportunity.

 

[Carehn]

Why not just Vote for Gary Johnson? It doesn't mean you have to stop working withing the GOP. All it means is '' F*CK YOU MITT".

 

[Carehn]

The MSM will ignore that. They can't ignore a 2-5% showing by GJ. If GJ so offends your views, by all means write in Ron Paul. I just fail to see how liberty lovers aren't jumping at this opportunity.

Same. I don't get it. He is not Paul but I would take him over the others any day. Actually I gave the dude a couple of bucks the other day. I may even get a yard sign and some stickers.

 

[J_White]

Why not just Vote for Gary Johnson? It doesn't mean you have to stop working withing the GOP. All it means is '' F*CK YOU MITT".

lol, i like that idea.

 

[J_White]

If write in isn't counted or if you abstain, the recorded number of voters minus the recorded number of votes for the named presidential candidates = a vote of no confidence, or 'none of the above', imho. The numbers are public and if the number is significant WE could spread it. Voting for Ron reflects my views, voting for a candidate I don't want, doesn't.

MSM will certainly ignore those numbers of abstaining voters, but it could be a statistic that we could try to spread.
voting for Johnson might just kind of strengthen the LP and we still won't know how much spike he got because RP supporters voted for him. also we need to think about blowback from GOP.
i wish if they would have counted the Write-ins, then we would have had a solid number to show.

 

[sailingaway]

The MSM will ignore that. They can't ignore a 2-5% showing by GJ. If GJ so offends your views, by all means write in Ron Paul. I just fail to see how liberty lovers aren't jumping at this opportunity.

the msm will ignore Gary too. I want to vote for Ron, and don't want to vote for Gary, and it will show up, so we can point it out. If not many do it it won't mean much, but if a lot do, it will. Refusing to eat the dog food but showing up to vote to show you care enough, is much more the actual way I feel.

 

[fr33]

I fail to see where Gary Johnson has been anything but a true fiscal conservative, or has called for military adventurism. You are right about him being pro-choice, but given that an issue like that wont be solved any time soon, that shouldn't be a deal breaker for someone looking to stick it to the GOP. Ive been a Paul supporter until the end. But if we are to prove anything as a movement, I believe voting for GJ as a way to show our strength is the best move. I'd encourage you to strongly consider this. I can't blame people for voting with their conscience, but if we are to survive as a movement I think we need to band together right now.

I fear the modern definition of the phrase "fiscal conservative" isn't good enough for me. Gary through his own words has proven he doesn't know enough about the FED or economics. He's better than Obamney for sure. http://youtu.be/aTch7InkZjo

He's also on record wanting to invade African nations in search of Joseph Kony. For a libertarian to fall for KONY2012 is quite pathetic actually. It makes me think he'd continue the imperialism that is the biggest problem today. http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/thedcs-jamie-weinstein-gary-johnsons-strange-foreign-policy/

He really is a lesser of three evils. Much lesser I grant you but really not enough.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Right now im torn between a protest vote for Obama or write in Ron Paul. I'm so pissed at the RNC right now.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I'm writing in Ron Paul. Face it, our country is a 2 party system, and the libertarian party isn't going to magically become a viable 3rd party.

Milton Friedman said that the most influential party that changed America in the latter half of the 20th century was Socialist Party.
It didn't win any major elections but it won a lot of hearts & minds, which prompted both the main parties to take up some of its issues & that's how America embarked on its socialist path that we see today.

Similarly, we should vote libertarian, not necessarily hoping to see it win anything but to send a message to both the main parties that we can't be ignored anymore.

Remember, most people vote a certain party all the time & it takes only 5-10% of votes to swing elections in favor or against a party & we need to become that crucial 5-10% that swings elections, & then both the main parties will put some of our demands on their platforms & put up candidates that have something to offer to libertarians.

Even if the Libertarian Party gets 5-10% votes this time that will cause fundamental shifts in platforms of both Repubs & Dems for the future elections in order to appease us - "the swing-votes". Taking back liberty is a long-term project!

 

[gjdavis60]

Obviously the next president will be either Romney or Obama. Personally, I don't see much difference and I expect another 4 years of status quo from the executive branch. My heart says to write in Ron's name out of loyalty and respect (and love) for the man who changed my mind about government and politics, so that's probably what I'll do. It is such an honor to vote for him that I don't want to give up my last chance.

But my head says it's time to stop expending a lot of time worrying about the presidential election and focus on races where we have legit liberty candidates running for office, as well as other initiatives that will have a substantive and lasting effect on pushing our movement forward. The presidential election is over for us, as is a chapter of our movement, and it is time to move on if we want to maintain the incredible momentum we've generated. Vote your conscience, but start thinking about what comes next.