What will Ron Paul supporters (non-delegates) be doing in Tampa during the convention?

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Hey guys - is there anything organized / in the pipeline for non-delegates during the convention, i.e. marches, protests, etc.?

My girlfriend and I are coming for Paul Festival and want to know what will be going on during the week of the convention. If our presence is useful in any way we'll stay in Tampa, if not... we'll be off to Disney World.

Thanks. :)
 
Y'all should definitely squeeze in Disney World (Universal Studios too) no matter what, if you've never been.
 
Sorry to say but you would suck as a travel agent:p

And you would suck as a financial planner.

Disney's ticket prices are unreal, but that's just the cost of setting foot on their property. You also have the cost of parking, though I guess you could get around that by staying at one of their hotels and parking there. You have food and drink (not to be dismissed in the Florida summer; you WILL drink a great deal). You have tickets to invidual shows and experiences. You have tickets to other themeparks. You have the inevitable tee shirt or shot glass or whatever dainty you want to keep as a reminder of that leg of your journey. And then... you have the walking. I hope you brought sunscreen and the everlasting patience to deal with the surrounding press of humanity. These are not even Romney or Obama voters that surround you; they are the ones who would be hard-pressed to tell you when election day is.

I suppose it could be fun, but not for me :p
 
Disney?...don't they require you to give your finger prints before entering their 'happy place?...
 
And you would suck as a financial planner.

Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. That you went on mostly to complain about price means you would be a bad economist though. The opportunity cost of traveling and dealing with everything you say, as well as the cost of prices are both just subjective judgements a person can make. It's a vacation. I know I'd fire my financial planner if they said, "Hey, rightcoast, you are about to spend $433 on a day trip with your kid to Disney World. That's almost as much as you make in a day's work. Don't spend $433 on a day during your vacation!" It's absurd.

Anyway, if OP has a few hundred bucks to burn, I suggest Mons Venus. That's my subjective preference. ;)
 
Disney is pure fun. You have to go at least once to say you've done it and had a blast or to experience the outrageous prices and join in on the hate.
 
There are also tons of things to do around Tampa like casinos, casino boats, chartered fishing trips, Tarpon Springs (sponge docks), Clearwater beach, Dali museum, Ybor city (bar/party area), etc.
 
And you would suck as a financial planner.
Don't hate on me because the OP was originally inclined to go to DW, I just encouraged him since it's likely his and hers first time. My point was, don't travel across the world and miss an attraction to go spend money at a fricking farmers market. All theme parks have ridiculous prices as do many sports venues.
 
LOL. You must like the dailypaul. No disrespect. Sounds like something I would say.:cool:

He's not joking.

Sea World was doing that last time we went, but only in some of the lines. I assume it was for people who had season passes or similar things.
 
Yikes. I used to think all those people that said pretty soon everything will have an RFID chip in it were nutty until I got a good look at my mother-in-law's new passport. She was actually excited about it because the chip in it allows her "speedy verification" at the airport. I told her to stick it in the microwave out of protest and now guess who appears nutty? And so it begins....
 
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I did not know the bolded part. That is EXCELLENT information from a local news station.

ORLANDO, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35 ORLANDO) - If you've been to Disney World, Universal, or SeaWorld lately, then it's possible you gave-up personal information to the theme parks.

Putting your index finger on a biometric scanner is now a routine part of getting inside the parks, but are those scanners actually capturing your fingerprints? If so, what are they doing with them?

"I'm not a criminal. These kids aren't criminals," Pam Thompson told us outside the gates of Disney's EPCOT. Pam was one of many park visitors with questions about the mysterious finger-scanning machines at every entrance to the park.

It's not just Disney that uses the technology. There are similar "biometrics" at SeaWorld and Universal parks too.

Joseph Lewis brought his kids to Disney from Virginia and told FOX 35, "To be scanned to get in to an amusement park really boggles your mind doesn't it?"

"Well, it's a fingerprint for gosh sake," the Thompson family added. "What are they doing my fingerprint for? Nobody asked me if they could do that. I feel like a criminal, kind of… like, why are they fingerprinting me? And nobody answers that question."

FOX 35 heard plenty of questions. First, is it even a fingerprint taken at the parks?

We contacted Universal Parks asking a spokesperson, "What information is captured?" Universal responded to our questions with their own: "Why you are doing the story?" and "Are you reaching out to all local theme parks?"

Yes, we reached out, but didn't get far. When we asked SeaWorld about their finger-scanning technology, their senior communications manager only said, "Unfortunately, we are not able to work with you on this story."

Disney's spokesperson initially gave a similar response, telling us they, "would not be participating" in our story. However, only hours after we began promoting this report, we got a call from the world's largest theme park resort.

A Disney spokesperson told us their technology, "does not collect fingerprints," just numeric data to link you to your ticket, so no one else can use it. Disney says that fights fraud and protects visitors' investments.

But why was that so difficult to find out? And what about the silence of the other two parks?

Those questions didn't surprise Lillie Coney, the Associate Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) in Washington, DC.

"The basic concern is people have a right to control their personal information," Coney told FOX 35. "So, the expectation is that it's used solely for controlling who uses a ticket."

In response, we asked, "If [the theme parks] are not spelling out exactly what they're doing -- what are we led to wonder? What are we led to assume?" Coney responded, "You can assume anything is happening. That's the problem. When you don't have policies in place that are spelled out and are transparent… that there's an obligation to adhere to those policies… then the consumer can expect any use."

"Fingerprint data already has a second use," EPIC's Coney continued. "It's used by law enforcement."

Law enforcement, the FBI, who else does have access to the large amounts of biometric information?

"Yeah, there's something not right about it," believes the Thompsons of Kentucky. "I'm not sure what it is. I'm not sure if it's government involved?"

Nationally, Disney Parks see nearly 200,000 people every day but says no one has access to that information. Plus, 55,000 visit SeaWorld parks and another 47,000 at Universal daily.

That's another big question: are theme parks sharing their visitors' information with the government? People like Joseph Lewis fear they are, "I think it's a hidden... I'm not one of these conspiracy people… I don't freak out about it, but I just think they're doing it as an easy way to get their information and get their mark on you without saying, ‘Hey, we want your thumbprint. We want to thumbprint everybody in the country.'"

The work of two Disney executives with the federal government raises more questions.

Following 9/11, Disney engineer Gordon Levin worked with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to develop a plan for biometrics at airports.

Soon thereafter, Disney Vice-President Kathleen McChesney joined an initiative of the Department of Homeland Security to develop "Fusion Centers." The centers aim to fight "terrorism and criminal acts" -- in part, by allowing the "personally identifiable information" collected by private business to be accessed by law enforcement.

FOX 35 asked EPIC's Lille Coney about those connections, "So, it is not too big of a leap to wonder if when you put your finger on that reader at the park that information could be sent to the FBI? Could be sent to the government?" Coney responded, "Because you don't have anything in writing saying that's not the case-- then clearly that could be the case."

The general privacy policies for all three parks confirm they do collect personal information and that it can be shared with third parties for security reasons.

That's one reason why EPIC wants the theme parks to clearly spell-out how they use the biometric data collected from millions of people every year. "And then there's transparency. There's security. There's accountability," says Coney. "Then you have a context that consumers can trust. Outside of that, there isn't a way to assure the consumer that nothing else is going on."

Disney says its biometric scanners aren't mentioned in their privacy policy because they collect no private information.

One thing you should know is that you do not have to put your finger on the scanners at theme park entrances. Instead, you can show photo ID to enter to the park -- even though there are no signs at Disney, Universal, or SeaWorld letting you know that's an option.

That option some park guests might start taking. "I won't touch it," says Disney visitor Chauncey Gallon. "I don't like it. I do not like it. "

Federal officials would not comment on our story either, saying they do not discuss potential security matters.
 
Beautiful. How "magical." Anybody else need a drink? I'll have a glass of....alcohol.
 
There is a Veterans March on the first day of the RNC, (I've also heard whispers of a nationwide sign wave planned for that day) and a march for everyone on Tuesday, August 28th..along with a candlelight vigil thingy http://www.libertymarch.org/ ...I imagine there will be more thought up as we get closer!
 
when will he be in tampa? I must have missed something completely
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