What Will Happen in the Next Debate?

Paul v Tancredo v Hunter

Paul, Tancredo and Hunter are all spot on regarding immigration but only Paul has proposed anything near reality on foreign policy.

Paul has also taken a direct and psotive stand for fathers and family by voting against the Violence Against Women's Act (VAWA), a most virulent and discriminatory anti-male law.

On May 1, 2002 the House of Representatives voted to support VAWA (H.R. 2215).
The vote was 416 in favor and 3 against. Ron Paul voted against VAWA.
No other presidential candidate, including Tancredo and Hunter, can claim that honor
 
Paul, Tancredo and Hunter are all spot on regarding immigration but only Paul has proposed anything near reality on foreign policy.

Paul has also taken a direct and psotive stand for fathers and family by voting against the Violence Against Women's Act (VAWA), a most virulent and discriminatory anti-male law.

On May 1, 2002 the House of Representatives voted to support VAWA (H.R. 2215).
The vote was 416 in favor and 3 against. Ron Paul voted against VAWA.
No other presidential candidate, including Tancredo and Hunter, can claim that honor

My respect just continues to grow for Ron Paul. Thanks for pointing that out.

You're right about foreign policy for sure. Duncan Hunter keeps pushing more of the same and supports Bush's "surge". To his credit though, he does have a son who served in Iraq, and he's a former Marine himself. Tancredo has opposed the surge and has said some vague things about disengaging from Iraq, but that's about it.
 
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Agreed on the Israel issue, also agree on the drug issue.

I think both represent areas where Dr. Paul may lose SOME support.

At the same time, I think both are areas where he may GAIN support as well.

Double edged swords, both of them.
 
There's that word [roughshod] again!

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What I am getting from both parties is a "fear tactic". The line "everything changed after 911" line can be countered by " I was not aware that the Constitution changed!" Or a positive the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

I agree that they will try to blindside him like a Sean Hannity type of question"You don't think we have a moral obligation to stop... int heworld?"

They will also use the What would you do with N.Korea, Iran nukes. Maybe even try to ask some obsurd question like "Who is the leader of (insert some small country in the middle..)

One thing I noticied is that Dr. Paul is a gentleman and tends to stumble when someone is rude. Thats were they will try to catch him off guard. Say an interruption ala Rudy then someone else will ask a quick Yes/No question.

Goss, I would say I don't trust the party establishment. But, they are not squeaky clean.

And I am not as eloquent as Dr. Paul.
 

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The Monetary System is a somewhat complex subject that causes people's eyes to cross when it's addressed. This is mostly because Americans aren't taught anything about it.

What I generally say is this:

The Dollar Congress handed over to the Federal Reserve in 1913 is now worth only 4 Cents. Raise your hand if you would trade every Dollar you own for 25 new ones.

My opinion is that the single most important thing that could happen in New Hampshire is if it RAINS Ron Paul Supporters.

We traveled to the SC debate, and I was very impressed with the thousands of Fair Tax demonstrators who were very organized and it all made for an impressive display of support for their agenda.

We also got to meet Congressman Paul, his lovely and most gracious wife as well as The Mighty Kent Snyder:D This is worth the trip in itself.

I think it would lift a huge weight off the Campaign to have a HUGE show of support in numbers, which would put the spamming/viral marketing accusations to rest, as well as show Americans who don't know Ron what they're missing.

Bosso
 
The Monetary System is a somewhat complex subject that causes people's eyes to cross when it's addressed. This is mostly because Americans aren't taught anything about it.

What I generally say is this:

The Dollar Congress handed over to the Federal Reserve in 1913 is now worth only 4 Cents. Raise your hand if you would trade every Dollar you own for 25 new ones.

My opinion is that the single most important thing that could happen in New Hampshire is if it RAINS Ron Paul Supporters.

We traveled to the SC debate, and I was very impressed with the thousands of Fair Tax demonstrators who were very organized and it all made for an impressive display of support for their agenda.

We also got to meet Congressman Paul, his lovely and most gracious wife as well as The Mighty Kent Snyder:D This is worth the trip in itself.

I think it would lift a huge weight off the Campaign to have a HUGE show of support in numbers, which would put the spamming/viral marketing accusations to rest, as well as show Americans who don't know Ron what they're missing.

Bosso

I agree with your comment that the American people have little understanding of the monetary system which is fundamental to the sentiments being expressed today.
Hopefully you can pass the links(money masters) to as many supporters as possible.
 
I see it now. They're going after any hint of a conspiracy theory. Ther'll try to connect him with the 911 truth movement and claim that RP belives 911 was not only our fault, but that Bush or neocons or the new world order scum had something to do with it. H'e have to waist time answering stupid questions.
 
I see it now. They're going after any hint of a conspiracy theory. Ther'll try to connect him with the 911 truth movement and claim that RP belives 911 was not only our fault, but that Bush or neocons or the new world order scum had something to do with it. H'e have to waist time answering stupid questions.

Unfortunately this may happen, hopefully Ron has answers prepared for a number of situations and can answer it quickly and move on to the pressing issues. CNN is probably in their war room now, figuring out their plan of attack. Just like last time, they'll pull something unexpected and completely absurd. And he'll probably get 2 idiotic questions to answer, but I'm hoping in light of recent press coverage they'll feel pressured to give him more than last time.

OR it could go the other way and they'll completely ignore him seeing how their last trick backfired.

The thing we know is that Rudy will have about 20 minutes of talk time, woohoo, can't wait to listen to that while waiting for Ron's 30 seconds. :mad:
 
Israel & Iran - they will try to hit him there. I think he may be able to counter

Drug war - I hope they try. Honestly, America is ready to end it, especially marijuana. It would boost Paul even further. And here is the thing, Paul only needs about 30% of the (R) vote... because this is McCain's last shot at the presidency, and he wont leave til the bitter end, Guiliani is backed so strongly that he will always be a contender, and Mitt romney, IMHO, is the strongest candidate.

Environment - they may try to hit him there, because everyone else is starting to hop on board the consensus views.

Anything else, and he'll outconservatice the conservatives.

I hope he is wisely studying his opponents positions right now, and not focusing all his effort on Giuliani. Really, Giuliani is easy to beat up on. You can hit him from keeping the HQ in the WTC, to all the money his consulting firm makes with Fox and Saudi Arabia, to his lawsuit against gun companies for gun related deaths in NYC. The guy isn't conservative at all.

Rudy may try to pull teh old "Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11" confusion tactic. Man, that is really slick, and typical neocon shit. They try to muddle and confuse the public. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with Iraq, but our foreign policies in Iraq had plenty to do with 9-11.
 
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I am not completely convinved that Wolf will throw many, if any, ridiculous questions at Ron Paul. Am I wrong in thinking this? There was a HUGE contrast between the type of interview Wolf gave Ron on CNN and the ridiculous interview with Ron on Hannity & Colmes. Although Wolf asked Ron some questions that seemed wasteful, I think these are the sort of questions that any "lower level" or "spoiler" candidate would be asked, which to most people, Ron is at this point given his numbers in the big polls.

This doesn't consider the fact that he's being left out of many big polls while other lower candidates and even some NON candidates are being included...
 
I truly believe that the mainsleaze media is going to do everything they can to try and get RP out of the race, and that includes Wolf and CNN.

I do not think Dr. Paul is vulnerable on foreign policy.

They're going to try and find something else.

He's not a "usual" candidate with a long DOCUMENTED history of flipping and flopping.

So it may be difficult to find something.

If that's the case, they'll ignore him.
 
If they challenge his conservatism, it gives him carte blanche to lay into Giuliani, while touting his own conservatism... and he can do that in 30 seconds.
 
They might ask him about legalizing drugs. They would try to make him out as a nut on that issue. This is a Republican primary after all. Even though the drug war is a total disaster and has done more harm than good. He will have some good answers, but I`m not sure how it would play out with the Republican base.
 
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