What music does Ron Paul like?

Calm down? That didn't take but a flick of the wrist. Just like most rap music. You think that is an angry rant. I think it is a street corner diss and chuckle.. Rap..what a frikkin' lame ass joke of a psuedo music and petrie dish psy-op loaded with the most gasbagged, overblown ghettobaggin' drooldonkeys with no talent, lack of diction, bad dress sense, piss poor posture and stage moves, a mental landscape that consists of the local 7-11 and their genitalia dolled up with confetti cash dipped in horseshit and rolled in bogus bling and a penchant for grabbing attention like a soiled diapered two year old..

Rev9

Rap is way better than whatever you listen to.
 
What a load of bodewashery and gardyloo. The primary reason I don't like certain so called music is because it is acclaimed due to ego trips and not actual musicianship. You sound like some half baked rock critic or hip hop pundit trying to cover for your industry..

Rev9

See, that's exactly what I mean.. "actual musicianship". Ego ego ego. 'Musicianship' implies human purprose. Without a 'human' being involved, it's lesser sound and the more a human involves themselves into the sound, by putting more effort into it, more thought, more ego into it, it's considered 'higher' music. Why should effort of the artist matter to the listener if it's mere sound to the listener? A pretty sound is a pretty sound, regardless of how it came to be. Whether it's rain hitting my window or some dude programming a nice beat.

Zuh? Firstly, we use the word "music" to mean sounds that are purposefully played specifically for the purpose of artistic expression and/or commercial purpose. When we incorporate "natural" sounds into a composition, it is called musique concrete. It's a legitimate medium, but more practical in recorded music than live music. Hell, there are opera scores that call for "wind machine" and "anvils".

I don't think you quite understand what I mean. Musique concrète is subject to the same perversion. It implies that purposely recorded acousmatic and purposely applied sound is of more value than purposeless sound.

Concentrate on the instruments. The rap thing is an ego trip. Fame is but a vapor, a fortune can be lost in an instant but true character continues forever. And..yes I can disrespect a type of music. The loud, all hours of the night, vampire drone beats, cussing for no reason except they needed a syllable to take up a beat or three, dissing on women and promoting street violence with gangsta drivel drove me out of my 30 year neighborhood into the north Georgia mountains so I wouldn't ever have to put up with that shit waking me again in the middle of the night. The rap catering head shop would blast rap talking about getting their dick sucked by bitches and they betta bring me my money while ladies with babies in strollers were walking by cringing. The idiots would blast rap when there was concerts in the square 50 feet from their door. Fucking rude pricks.

There are famous rappers, therefore all rappers are famous.

It gets wet when it rains, therefore, when it's wet, it has rained.

To every sentiment, there is a reactionary sentiment elsewhere in a scene. 'Cause I mean, you're kinda regurgitating the same mantra underground rappers use, so you're kinda in agreement with actual rappers here. And I don't see how your average rockist getting on a high horse over nothing, displaying an embarrassing degree of ignorance about a subject they feel strongly about is any more tolerable some douchbag on the street blasting loud music.

I love hip-hop, among other music and I agree MCs killed it and MCs are all about the ego rather than music. Much like some people are more about the effort than the music. Doesn't mean that all music that can be called hip-hop is the same. Or that all metal is made by guys who care more about how "tech that 220 bpm sweep picked apreggio was, man".

 
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That said I think Ron Paul is about the same age as my father would be. I remember my Dad going for Tennessee Ernie Ford and something called Bluegrass. Then again that could have been because my father grew up in Missouri.



P.S. I found a list for 1953 and one for 1952 that should be somewhere in the ballpark for his generation.




Perry Como anyone?

How Much Is That Doggie In The Window - Patti Page

Satchmo


Perry Como and the other stuff you mentioned was my guess too. RP is a few years older than my dad, and my dad LOVES Perry Como. :D
 
See, that's exactly what I mean.. "actual musicianship". Ego ego ego. 'Musicianship' implies human purprose.

Musicianship to me is the ability to create music. It takes two parts to make music. An instrument and a player. Yer so far off into dadadism type theory you miss the boat entirely. The musical scales are derived from the ratio-ed quanta of the Universe and codified as such within our senses. To abrogate a human from that equation is to pretend music is something it is not.

Rev9
 
There are famous rappers, therefore all rappers are famous.

It gets wet when it rains, therefore, when it's wet, it has rained.

To every sentiment, there is a reactionary sentiment elsewhere in a scene. 'Cause I mean, you're kinda regurgitating the same mantra underground rappers use, so you're kinda in agreement with actual rappers here. And I don't see how your average rockist getting on a high horse over nothing, displaying an embarrassing degree of ignorance about a subject they feel strongly about is any more tolerable some douchbag on the street blasting loud music.

I love hip-hop, among other music and I agree MCs killed it and MCs are all about the ego rather than music. Much like some people are more about the effort than the music. Doesn't mean that all music that can be called hip-hop is the same. Or that all metal is made by guys who care more about how "tech that 220 bpm sweep picked apreggio was, man".

I don't care too much about speed. I care about ornamentational abilities. The better trained a musician is the more access to varied styles of ornamentation they have at their fingertips. I haven't listened to much of anything after 1990. It was a bunch of suicide loser crap. It has started getting interesting again in a few areas of endeavor. I don't like Reggae. I am not from an ocean community or genetic. I do not like rap or hip hop. I am not by nature "urban". Much metal is poseur driven and they fell into the rapper trap of vocalists with one note octave but instead of bad diction and rolling mumbles we get the frakkin' cookie monster in 100's of "bands". MC's...please..these are clowns who float their whole ego gambit playing other peoples creations and act like their ability to make a playlist of this gives them some kind of urban ghawd status. I laugh and spit in their direction for their level dishonesty. I look forward to the next wave of music which will not be a load of contrived and overhyped BS.

Rev9
 
Musicianship to me is the ability to create music. It takes two parts to make music. An instrument and a player. Yer so far off into dadadism type theory you miss the boat entirely. The musical scales are derived from the ratio-ed quanta of the Universe and codified as such within our senses. To abrogate a human from that equation is to pretend music is something it is not.

Rev9

I'm not off into anything. I'm saying that music is "sound + ego" and that placing higer value on the ego (through things like "musicianship, songwriting, technique, purpose, etc") disregards the sound (the only thing reaches the listener) and is therefore pointless and you limit yourself.

Like John Cage said;

“If you develop an ear for sounds that are musical it is like developing an ego. You begin to refuse sounds that are not musical and that way cut yourself off from a good deal of experience.”

This is twice as true if you start developing an ear for certain genres.

I don't care too much about speed. I care about ornamentational abilities. The better trained a musician is the more access to varied styles of ornamentation they have at their fingertips.

And at the end of the day, all they make could still be absolute crap.

I haven't listened to much of anything after 1990. It was a bunch of suicide loser crap.

And then I can point you to countless of musicians who weren't a bunch of 'loser suicide crap'? I mean, even as far as rock goes, have you ever listened to 'American Don' by Don Caballero, 'Camofleur' by Gastr Del Sol, 'F#A# (infinity)' by Godspeed You! Black Emperor, or anything by Bark Psychosis? Or hell, 'In the Aeroplane Over the Sea' by Neutralk Milk Hotel?

I don't like Reggae. I am not from an ocean community or genetic.

I'm not from there either, that doesn't make Scientist or King Tubby any less brilliant? o.O I'm not from Brazil either, should my favorite guitarist therefore not be a bossa nova guitarist? Why limit yourself?

I do not like rap or hip hop. I am not by nature "urban". Much metal is poseur driven and they fell into the rapper trap of vocalists with one note octave but instead of bad diction and rolling mumbles we get the frakkin' cookie monster in 100's of "bands". MC's...please..these are clowns who float their whole ego gambit playing other peoples creations and act like their ability to make a playlist of this gives them some kind of urban ghawd status. I laugh and spit in their direction for their level dishonesty. I look forward to the next wave of music which will not be a load of contrived and overhyped BS.

Rev9

Sweet, so all these rappers who are the opposite of that.. are.. somehow... non-existing even though.. I'm listening to them right now?
 
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