What is your take on capitis diminutio maxima & maritime law. Also, quote by Col. House.

[Lord Xar]

As is inevitable, my reading is taking me to the notion that we are chattel and used as collateral.

Been reading about things such as: capitis diminutio maxima, and the maritime law and how we, as birthed thru our mothers womb (water), we are subject to the Maritime Law.

Then further reading from Black's law dictionary, that Human Being is not the same as "person", and thus are not assured equality or ownership of ourselves.

Then.. further reading brought me to Col. House's quote. Which seems strangely honest to be real.

What have you studies/reading led you? Can one be a "freeman" and not pay taxes etc.... or ?

Is the notion that we are collateral via birth "certificate" real?

Just looking for additional insight into those who have dug deeper....

 

[Steely Dan]

I have looked into this in detail and I believe its true that we are collateral for the IMF. The real term, under Maritime Law would be "Berthed". Any kind of "legal" contract you enter into always uses CAPS on your name. That is your "Straw man" or Corporation. The corporate "person" that you do legal business as. There are a lot of videos and articles out there that go into great detail on this stuff but its usually too much for the average Joe six pack to wrap his fluoride damaged brain around. Like the flag in a court room for instance. Its lined with gold fringe. It means you are under Maritime law. Even the railing that you enter into in a court represents the bow of the "ship". This is why I personally don't believe our political system can be fixed by voting. Our (s)elected officials know this stuff but they play along with the game and keep us thinking we have a representative government. Its all a farce and we are chattle.

 

[osan]

I have been on this trail lately and there appears to be too much smoke for there to be no fire.

Inconclusive bodies of evidence aside, this has precisely the timbre of chicanery about it to give that evidence additional credibility. Once again, if one wishes to be able to make sense of the political world about him, it behooves him to start thinking as Theye do. So doing, CDM would appear to be of the precise sorts of things that a gifted and learned corpus tyrannorum would set into place to further confound and hamstring those over whom it wishes to continue exercising dominion with ever more solid constriction. Semantic shifting through encryption in order that the unwitting serf damns himself in the courtroom would seem an invaluable tool to Themme. This, once again, is far from conclusive but very suggestive of truth.

 

[tommyrp12]

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[osan]

The corporate entity set up at the time your birth certificate is registered is a cestui que vie trust, according to my reading.

Everything you posted appears consistent with my own research - what has not been established is whether any of this in fact carries with it the force of law, which is to say, is it being enforced? If it is, it is done so silently and in code, which is also consistent with my readings, further thrusting this into the category of diabolical human nonsense.

I'd say this could make a good RPF project but I already know too well how those work out.

 

[presence]

lots of content at abovetopsecret

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=capitis diminutio site:abovetopsecret.com

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Can one be a "freeman" and not pay taxes etc....?

No. No, no, no.

Obey the law, as the law enforcers understand it. It is the law that you pay income tax.

Look, every year Congress passes tweaks to the tax code, changing loop holes for various special interests. Why do they do that? It's because the tax code is law. Congress passes it as law. The President signs it into law. It is law. They do not intend to make it a law that only applies to Guam and the District of Columbia. They intend to tax every human being in the United States, and in the world, if possible.

All of these esoteric legal theories are junk. They will land you in jail. If you enjoy reading thousands of pages of legalese as a hobby, then by all means pursue this research, but for fun. Do not act on your "discoveries". It's all been discovered before, it's all been tried before, and it does not end well.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

lots of content at abovetopsecret

https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=capitis diminutio site:abovetopsecret.com

presence? Really, you? You're getting sucked into this nonsense?

This is stupid. It's just stupid. It's just really, really, stupid. Don't be fools, men. Here, read this article (Please!):

http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/JailBait.htm

 

[jkr]

who's JOE BANISTER?

 

[helmuth_hubener]

who's JOE BANISTER?

Exactly, jkr. Thank you.

 

[CPUd]

I've spent some time around the subject, enough for me to say I believe it's all bullshit. I've seen the sites of people who are pushing this, and I've also seen the sites of debunkers. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't like seeing people get taken advantage of, and there are plenty of those cases around the subject. I would only say at least look at both sides before buying in too deep.

As is inevitable, my reading is taking me to the notion that we are chattel and used as collateral.

Been reading about things such as: capitis diminutio maxima, and the maritime law and how we, as birthed thru our mothers womb (water), we are subject to the Maritime Law.

It sounds cool, but that's about it. A lot of creative wordplay. You will see people state the term capitis diminutio maxima is for when a person enters into slavery, and/or loses previous legal status. This is indeed the crux of what is stated in Black's. The term capitis sorta sounds like 'capital', so that must mean if your name is in capital letters, you must have become a slave, right?

The maritime stuff comes from the gold fringe on the flag that you usually see in the courtroom supposedly being significant, but its true function is strictly decorative.

Then further reading from Black's law dictionary, that Human Being is not the same as "person", and thus are not assured equality or ownership of ourselves.

Assuming human being is equivalent to a natural person, check the edition of Black's that is cited, and then check the current edition. Also, Black's is a dictionary, and has no binding authority regarding statute, which does typically have a section for definitions: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002

Sometimes, people like to take that definition and assert that corporations are people, but that's not what it says.

What have you studies/reading led you? Can one be a "freeman" and not pay taxes etc.... or ?

No. Not in the way they typically claim, anyway. This is the part that destroys people's lives. The whole notion sounds attractive to people who are already in debt, going through tough times, and this is where the con men will exploit that by selling tax evasion guides.

Is the notion that we are collateral via birth "certificate" real?

No. They will usually give you a site to type in a number on your birth certificate, and it will return some dollar amount. These are actually mutual fund numbers, and the probability is very high that if you type in a number, it will return a dollar amount.


CQV is not what they claim, either. It is analogous to an executor of an estate, and is how people are able to pass ownership of their property when they die.

 

[tommyrp12]

its all trust law.

 

[osan]

its all trust law.

Very interesting what happened in that courtroom and I have seen this in numerous other recordings of court procedure the moment a defendant refuses consent and begins asking questions regarding the mode of jurisdiction under which said court is operating. What I have learned, and again I am not yet certain that this is fact, is that any time a judge requests a recess and leaves the courtroom, when he returns he will have done so under a different jurisdiction and that allowing a judge to do this places one in greater peril. It has been asserted that when a recess is called, the thing to do is to object to the recess and keep the judge in the courtroom by any means you can manage because when they return under altered jurisdiction, their powers over you have increased. So I have come to hear. An adjournment, on the other hand, is very different in its effect where no change in jurisdiction occurs.

Another thing I have read is that whenever a judge asks whether you understand you rights, always answer in the negative and you may also state explicitly that you waive no rights but retain them all.


Take a gander at this one

[video=youtube;aoXYXG_OmL8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aoXYXG_OmL8[/video]

 

[tommyrp12]

Refuse for cause , is bolstered by competent record formation at the county clerks office making the record public and eliminating the presumption of private laws that are effecting us because of the trust created in our name. I am working on it, so I cant go into it, I only know that process causally. But I have seen documents with it written in red ink and it works. although sometimes they are persistent, you just have to keep doing it, i believe they give up eventually when they see it is going no where.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Interesting.

I usually avoid contracts in writing, when possible. I have had people try to get me to sign contracts for work, but I have refused. In some cases I have signed simple contracts only after writing on the contract my understanding that it holds me to no more than providing a service for mutual benefit to which I maintain full control of any and all rights if any rights exist (in so many words), and this has been accepted by the employer.

The acceptance of documents, or not, is an interesting topic, as posted in the video by @osan.

 

[mrsat_98]

No. No, no, no.

Obey the law, as the law enforcers understand it. It is the law that you pay income tax.

Look, every year Congress passes tweaks to the tax code, changing loop holes for various special interests. Why do they do that? It's because the tax code is law. Congress passes it as law. The President signs it into law. It is law. They do not intend to make it a law that only applies to Guam and the District of Columbia. They intend to tax every human being in the United States, and in the world, if possible.

All of these esoteric legal theories are junk. They will land you in jail. If you enjoy reading thousands of pages of legalese as a hobby, then by all means pursue this research, but for fun. Do not act on your "discoveries". It's all been discovered before, it's all been tried before, and it does not end well.

I have a quite entertaining winning streak and am friends with others that have even more entertaining winning streaks. I have not had an issue in 0ver 8 years.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

although sometimes they are persistent, you just have to keep doing it, i believe they give up eventually when they see it is going no where.

This is total bologna.

The acceptance of documents, or not, is an interesting topic, as posted in the video by @osan.

No, it is total nonsense. Oh yeah, make sure to write it "at a 45 degree angle" on the paper. That will get them for sure! It baffles me that intelligent and otherwise perceptive humans could think such a thing was credible.

Remember Diax's Rake: do not believe a thing simply because you want it to be true.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

I have a quite entertaining winning streak and am friends with others that have even more entertaining winning streaks. I have not had an issue in 0ver 8 years.

Well that's terrific. Seriously, it is. Certainly it's much better than you and your friends getting caught. So, I'm happy for you all.

But if you think there is no chance of getting caught sometime in the future, you are deluding yourselves. Especially if you are doing ridiculous things like writing magic phrases on court summons at 45 degree angles. "Bwa ha ha, the IRS is helpless before the power of my protractor!" No, no they are not.

 

[tommyrp12]

This is total bologna.

And you know this, how ? just calling it bologna does not make it so.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

And you know this, how ? just calling it bologna does not make it so.

I posted an article, http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/JailBait.htm , which I agree with. That is what I know on the subject. If you wish to become or to persist in being jailbait, then go for it.