What is war? We need to remind people.

[noztnac]

Very graphic site: http://www.awitness.org/journal/real_iraq_war.html

You've been warned. It's heart-breaking. Which is just what we need.

Maybe we need to just start sending these images to war supporters. Say, "Oh you like war. You'll probably like this then."

Then show them what they support.

We can start with Hannity, O Reilly, Limbaugh, etc. Send images of death to their e-mail.

Don't warn them. Just send it. Send letters with photos. Send images to all of Fox News' advertisers.

If they want war lets give it to them.

SHOCK AND AWE!

They had their chance at liberty. Remember when we sent tea bags?

Well, they responded by telling us loud and clear that they prefer war profits to liberty.

If they want war lets give it to them.

Let the protests begin.

 

[noztnac]

A soldier speaks out:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTNVSPto3Go

We need more of this!

Let's make a real infomercial!

 

[noztnac]

Soldiers speak out.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xSYp-uOTTg

Download, burn to a DVD, give to every person who has a McCain, Huckabee, Giuliani, Romney, Thompson sign in their yard.

 

[noztnac]

Children of God!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MHU2tK1BWsM&feature=related

 

[noztnac]

McCain wants 100 more years of this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9_o9knOh0pQ&feature=related

 

[noztnac]

Abu Ghraib-
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rz7UNxnOI3M


http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=Ru0bxSqWMdo

 

[Change]

Th bud commercial is great. the message should be that not blood and guts, the America people will reject that approach, and they are sick of WAR. Coming home reunions with RP's bio of being in the Military as a doctor saving lives is the way to go.

with the message: Welcome Home, move pass the Come Home, End the War Stuff and just say Welcome Home.

 

[noztnac]

Th bud commercial is great. the message should be that not blood and guts, the America people will reject that approach, and they are sick of WAR. Coming home reunions with RP's bio of being in the Military as a doctor saving lives is the way to go.

with the message: Welcome Home, move pass the Come Home, End the War Stuff and just say Welcome Home.

The blood and guts can be done swiftboat style and not directly affiliated with the Ron Paul campaign. Maybe just, Americans Against the War or something along those lines.

If Americans "reject" that approach but don't know who's behind it it doesn't really matter. The point is not for them to like it. The point is to rub their noses in war like a bad dog who has shit on the rug. Americans are not outraged enough. They may say they hate the war but they are fully prepared to elect people who will keep troops there for the next 100 years. We've gotten to the point where I don't care if they like what I have to say. People are getting killed and people are acting as though everything's peachy. Well it's not. We need to step up the pressure.

 

[DAFTEK]

We need some serious shock and awe!

We've been playing far too nice while letting media outlets like Fox News completely mischaracterize the war.

Revolution is not about being nice and avoiding taking bold decisive steps.

Victory can be ours. But if we want it we have to be willing to fight for it.

I am all for it and agree 100% but you will get some like the posts above who are to naive or scared or both to fight for this country like our soldiers are! They will tell you ohh Americans know what war is but, but, but....... BULLSHIT! war is war, i say show Americans the body bags and put a huge ? at the end of it! Oil? Terrorists? give me a fucking brake I'm sick of how many people in this country are so stupid, they have huge words and pitches, and will act like they are Spartans but when they get a small cut they CRY BUBU!!!!!!! I AM ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICAN THAT HAS VOTED FOR BUSH 2X BRAINWASHED BY THE MEDIA, CNN, FOX NEWS, ABC, CBS, MSNBC ALL OF THEM!

My heart goes out the the families of the troops from all over the world and the Iraqi people..... Sorry for the vent

 

[wohoo]

A graphic ad could and probably will be turned around with one sentence by the Ghoul: "Do you want this happening in the US?" And everyone knows the MSM will play his quotes day and night, especially FOX.

I'm 100% behind having military men and women who have served Iraq step up and talk on the good doctors behalf though saying things like "Dying in Iraq is not honorable. The honorable thing would be to bring the troops home, out of a war started by lies." etc

 

[RickNHouston]

All Americans see is a sanitized ,TV friendly, flag waving, I love democracy and freedom infomercial version of the war in Iraq.

We need to remind people what war really is. We need to show bodies, flag draped coffins, burned children, amputees, etc.

Images can be very powerful. Why is the campaign not using powerful images? We get inane bullshit like "He's catching on I'm tellin' ya."

It's time to present the pro war crowd with the reality of what they are supporting.


It's very simple- Huckabee, Giuliani, Romney, McCain, Hunter, and Thompson support this: Then show graphic images of war.

Ron Paul supports this: Then show soldiers being reunited with their wives and children.

If someone doesn't make this sort of ad we will lose. It's really that simple.

Im with you, dude!

In today's Army a .50 cal round doesn't just kill you ... or a woman or a child ... it actually dismembers you ... as in big chunks of barely recognizable human flesh! It ain't a purty site and will definately wake up some of these idiots who think you just "fall down" when you catch a bullet.

God! Heaven save us from having John (the American Coward) McCain, who wants nothing more than revenge, as our President. We will NEVER be a Peaceful Nation again!

 

[RickNHouston]

A graphic ad could and probably will be turned around with one sentence by the Ghoul: "Do you want this happening in the US?" And everyone knows the MSM will play his quotes day and night, especially FOX.

I'm 100% behind having military men and women who have served Iraq step up and talk on the good doctors behalf though saying things like "Dying in Iraq is not honorable. The honorable thing would be to bring the troops home, out of a war started by lies." etc

The are the guys who should be speaking for Rons candidacy... and I don't mean dressed up in suits with ties ... i mean they should appear they way look in real war ... dont clean em up, dont sanitize them... stop lying to the American people ... show them the fucking truth!

 

[raystone]

show the war pictures to America !

 

[RickNHouston]

My views on this sort of ad campaign may seem odd but I think the American people have simply lost touch with reality. They have bought into this insane lie that war is good and to support war is a patriotic thing to do. They seem oblivious to the reality that war is ugly, terrible, and evil.

We need to yank those damn flags they're waving out of their hands and beat some sense into them.

If you think I'm wrong please leave a message here explaining why. If you think that I'm on the right track bump this repeatedly until someone at campaign HQ gets the message.

We've played too nice for too long. There's too much at stake to go down without a fight.

Bump! Bump! Bump!

Im with you, dude!

In today's Army a .50 cal round doesn't just kill you ... or a woman or a child ... it actually dismembers you ... as in big chunks of barely recognizable human flesh! It ain't a purty site and will definately wake up some of these idiots who think you just "fall down" when you catch a bullet.

God! Heaven save us from having John (the American Coward) McCain, who wants nothing more than revenge, as our President. We will NEVER be a Peaceful Nation again!

 

[smtwngrl]

This Campaign needs a serious Shocker and this is just one example at SERIOUSLY GRABBING THE PEOPLES ATTENTION.

Tie in the spending, the corruption, lobbyists, PACS, Corporations, INFLATION, etc etc...

Have Micheal Moore or Tony Scott produce some quality commercials, not the current OLD, LETHARGIC, YAWNERS

ELiberty's ad is perfect. It is not overly graphic or shocking, but it is powerful. I think it is just what we need. It needs to be played over and over in every state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOc7O9_Ux_8

 

[noztnac]

A graphic ad could and probably will be turned around with one sentence by the Ghoul: "Do you want this happening in the US?" And everyone knows the MSM will play his quotes day and night, especially FOX.

I'm 100% behind having military men and women who have served Iraq step up and talk on the good doctors behalf though saying things like "Dying in Iraq is not honorable. The honorable thing would be to bring the troops home, out of a war started by lies." etc

If they try to block it all the better. We can create a controversy and post the ad for free on youtube. It will go viral as the video the FCC banned.

 

[noztnac]

ELiberty's ad is perfect. It is not overly graphic or shocking, but it is powerful. I think it is just what we need. It needs to be played over and over in every state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOc7O9_Ux_8

Not bad but rather bland in my opinion. I didn't find it powerful at all. Very safe. Very unprovocative. Ultimately, it will be lost in the shuffle of other ads.

I do support that ELiberty has attempted to make a great ad and don't mean to undermine his efforts. But I think we need to take it up a notch or two.

 

[noztnac]

I agree on continiuing to pursue the anti-war vote by shocking people.

But that is not all. Ron needs to start going after the Democrats big time. He is running for the Republican primary, so: the enemy of the enemy is my friend. Republicans eat that stuff up. Let Paul go after the Dims on spending and open borders, their failure to end the war in Iraq after taking control of Congress, and the fact that they've basically given Bush a blank check.

Obama is basically the media darling, but that means there will soon be a backlash against him. Don't be afraid to contrast RP with Obama on the major issues. With those two, it's socialsim and racial politics (actively pandering to racial groups) vs. small government and liberty (individualism rather than racial politics).

Bottom line: keep in mind Paul has to get Republicans on board, so don't focus 100% on the war, but don't rule out anything. Desperate circumstances call for desperate measures.

Right on! Go after Obama and Hillary...but not in a personal way...on policy.

 

[Indy Vidual]

I don't think people realize that war is brutal. I think they choose to believe everything is going great.

If you put enough images of death and destruction out there people will eventually lose their stomach for the war. A very few photos turned the tide of support against the war in Vietnam. It can happen again.

As for your statement about "It will backfire."

How?

If done as I indicated, private groups pushing against the war, while Ron Paul pushes images of soldiers being reunited with families... How will it backfire?

Please explain exactly how you see that working against us.

You are correct.
War is HELL.

 

[noztnac]

Mike Gravel gets it.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=M9fBaLSYeoM