What is war? We need to remind people.

noztnac said:
He needs some edgier grittier ads. America needs to be slapped out of their stupor. When lemmings are walking off the cliff you have to scream at them. You can't just tap them on the shoulder.

We should be recruiting young talent from University students. To win the "change" vote we need Quentin Tarantino style ads not slick feel good bullshit.
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Still, this one is great! I think until we get something official, it doesn't hurt to run with this one, the winner of the debate ad competition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjTAH8Y_L8

Sorry, after reading through all of the posts, and watching the videos about Iraq, I see what you mean. Nothing produced so far that I have seen portrays the message that needs to be sent to the people of this country and to the world. I am sorry for what we have done, and I am sorry for the families of all who have suffered for this greed and maniacal behavior. Are these people who run this world really humans? Are we missing something here?
 
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BreakYourChains said:
I think until we get something official, it doesn't hurt to run with this one, the winner of the debate ad competition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjTAH8Y_L8
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I think RP scored a big victory against McCain in the Myrtle beach debate, when he talked about the intentions of McCain to stay there for hundred years which commits many generations to war.
From the point of my view this is the smartest scene to add to any coming Ad.

Regarding the above Ad the winner of the debate ad competition, I feel that this Ad is very flat, why? First the voice of Ron Paul was pretty flat and not strong enough as we have seen before in other speeches (that might be a Microphone problem though).
Second, the background Music not as good and expressional as it should be.

I also do not know why we do not see this Ad on TV, it is hitting over 3 millions views on Google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...316&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
 
That you tube with the kid hugging his dad hit me right in the heart. How can anyone look at that little boy and wonder why he doesn't deserve to have his dad back home for good. You can literally see the ache of lonliness on his face when he see him. Thanks, I needed a good cry...
 
Shock and Awwwwww. I'm with you all the way. Pictures are worth a thousand words. People are not outraged enough about all the children we have killed, disabled and orphaned in this war. Just like they don't think about the millions of children whose non-violent parents are locked up for using the wrong drug.
 
we've killed saddam, there were no weapons of mass destruction, a form of black ops is being used in iraq, islamic people killing groups of the other group revealing civil war against their own country, we are fueling the chaos in Iraq and it needs tostop by getting our troops home.
 
Pauls' Revere said:
That you tube with the kid hugging his dad hit me right in the heart. How can anyone look at that little boy and wonder why he doesn't deserve to have his dad back home for good. You can literally see the ache of lonliness on his face when he see him. Thanks, I needed a good cry...
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Why aren't we using that????!!!

Ron Paul is for reuniting soldiers with their families. The other guys are for sending them to die for a lost cause.

We need to be simple, blunt, and aggressive. It's not too late!

Everyone please send the campaign a wakeup call. We will lose if we maintain our current course. That pisses me off because it would be so easy to radically change things with a few bold ads.
 
The tragic imagery of war is one thing. But what people need to see even more is what we're REALLY doing over there: War profiteering. Our tax dollars are being invested in and supporting moneymaking operations the American people will never see a cent of a return on. And it's blood money. Soldiers are dying to protect corporate greed, not promote democracy. Expose to Americans who's benefitting and who's losing and that will change the perceptions of anyone supporting this war. It will also make it all the more clear why Ron Paul is the best candidate to become our next President. No one likes to be scammed.
 
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dkim68 said:
The tragic imagery of war is one thing. But what people need to see even more is what we're REALLY doing over there: War profiteering. Our tax dollars are being invested in and supporting moneymaking operations the American people will never see a cent of a return on. And it's blood money. Soldiers are dying to protect corporate greed, not promote democracy. Expose to Americans who's benefitting and who's losing and that will change the perceptions of anyone supporting this war. It will also make it all the more clear why Ron Paul is the best candidate to become our next President. No one likes to be scammed.
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I'm a trial lawyer. The ad is what works. You tug at the heart strings first and then show them the additional icing on the cake--our tax dollars are being wasted while the Pro-War Republicans claim our boys have been defeated and need a victory. After all, we already won didn't we? Mission accomplished?
 
Can we do what's needed here with this ourselves?? The official campaign seems to be MIA on this ( and other compelling , specific , "drive the point home hard" ) issues that ALSO need ads. Carvill was right, "It's the economy, stupid!!" and this campaign also has no hardhitting
ads that capitalize on that golden opportunity dropping into our lap.

Can we pool our resources to get this done???
 
If powerful, horrifying, graphic images of war prove effective during the Republican primaries, and Dr Paul gets the Republican nomination, does that mean that when it comes to facing Hillary (or Obama) the tactic will be powerful, horrifying, graphic images of aborted fetuses?
 
We need to go after the Obama / Hillary / Edwards voters. How about an ad that shows the debate where all three of them refuse to promise to leave Iraq by 2013? Show these graphic war images you're talking about, show Ron Paul voting against Iraq from the beginning and promising to get us out ASAP?
 
JohnM said:
If powerful, horrifying, graphic images of war prove effective during the Republican primaries, and Dr Paul gets the Republican nomination, does that mean that when it comes to facing Hillary (or Obama) the tactic will be powerful, horrifying, graphic images of aborted fetuses?
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Hillary supported the war.
 
Nicketas said:
This strategy has been tried many, many times, and it fails.

Hardcore pro-war advocates will just call you a dirty liberal and say its worth the price to "keep us safe"

No one wants to see the terror of war. Traumatizing someone does not convert them to vote.

Let it go.
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It was tried in Vietnam and it worked. It has not been tried since. Web are losing and will lose if we refuse to take any stand for fear of alienating war mongers.
 
dkim68 said:
The tragic imagery of war is one thing. But what people need to see even more is what we're REALLY doing over there: War profiteering. Our tax dollars are being invested in and supporting moneymaking operations the American people will never see a cent of a return on. And it's blood money. Soldiers are dying to protect corporate greed, not promote democracy. Expose to Americans who's benefitting and who's losing and that will change the perceptions of anyone supporting this war. It will also make it all the more clear why Ron Paul is the best candidate to become our next President. No one likes to be scammed.
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You are right. It's wrong on many levels. But we have yet to make that case to the American people which is why we are losing.
 
SeanEdwards said:
Setting up a private organization like swiftboat vets and using that as the vehicle to associate graphic images of war with warmonger candidates is not a terrible idea.

Just as long as it's not connected to the Ron Paul campaign in any way and is purely used to attack the neocons.
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You must also show that the democrats will not bring our troops home much sooner. Even if a democrat wins the war will not end in the first term of a democrat. This is not exclusive to republicans. Democrats are not exactly against this war, they just want it to look that way.
 
I'm with you guys. However, what I'm hearing from the people, is that they want our troops home too, but they're afraid if they vote for Dr. Paul and we bring the troops home these 2 things will happen:

1. There will be no jobs for the soldiers that come home, which will further drive down the economy.

2. We will for sure suffer consequences from Terrorists, and they'll come here and blow us up.

How do we get the message out, that they're safe from these consequences? I think if we were able to show them they are safe from all this, we'd have it in the bag.

The visuals of war are great, but I think the solutions above are what the voters want & also need to get their vote.

JMO
 
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