What is Donald Trump's IQ?

What is Donald Trump's IQ?

  • 80-100

    Votes: 16 19.8%

  • 101-125

    Votes: 24 29.6%

  • 126-149

    Votes: 28 34.6%

  • 150+

    Votes: 13 16.0%
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We do know he didn't make the Dean's list (despite some claims he was top of his class). How far down he was in his class, we don't know. https://dparchives.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/pennsylvania?a=d&d=tdp19681025-01.2.27

People who remember him say he was more interested in going home on the weekends to do real estate than focusing on school.

http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/02/trump-academics-at-wharton

more involved with his future in real estate.

1968 Wharton graduate Louis Calomaris recalled that “Don ... was loath to really study much.”

Calomaris said Trump would come to study groups unprepared and did not “seem to care about being prepared.”

He added that Trump’s academic passivity likely stemmed from his passion for engaging directly in the real estate business.

“He spent all his weekends in New York because residential real estate is a weekend business,” Calomaris said. Five of Trump’s other classmates confirmed this.

“He was not an intellectual man, but that wasn’t what his goal was,” he said. “He’s not an intellectual now, [and] that’s pretty obvious ... [w]hat I saw early on was an unbounded ambition that did come to fruition, because it matched his firm’s needs, and that’s how these things work.”
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Probably low. Not that it matters. IQ tests are bunk. It is all pseudoscience.


Trump's success stems form his ability to nose out a weakness and hammer home on that until you submit. Which in its own way is a type of interpersonal intelligence. But that wouldn't correlate in anyway with a SAT or IQ test.
 
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dannno said:
Since he graduated alongside others who did get those scores, the only way it could have been "anything" is if he paid off all of his professors for his grades.

Any proof?
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Come now, you and I both know that -either you're paying off the school or a genius- isn't how it works. You find the smart kids you can either copy off of or pay to do your work and get high enough tests that you can slide through class even if you bomb your tests. All you need is a C to graduate.
 
PierzStyx said:
Come now, you and I both know that -either you're paying off the school or a genius- isn't how it works. You find the smart kids you can either copy off of or pay to do your work and get high enough tests that you can slide through class even if you bomb your tests. All you need is a C to graduate.
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This was a school of high achievers with the necessary means for a necessary means for a quality higher education.
 
PierzStyx said:
Probably low. Not that it matters. IQ tests are bunk. It is all pseudoscience.


Trump's success stems form his ability to nose out a weakness and hammer home on that until you submit. Which in its own way is a type of interpersonal intelligence. But that wouldn't correlate in anyway with a SAT or IQ test.
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IQ tests were developed not to see who was smart but to determine who was developmentally disabled.

https://www.123test.com/history-of-IQ-test/

The first modern intelligence test in IQ history was developed in 1904, by Alfred Binet (1857-1911) and Theodore Simon (1873-1961). The French Ministry of Education asked these researchers to develop a test that would allow for distinguishing mentally retarded children from normally intelligent, but lazy children. The result was the Simon-Binet IQ test. This IQ test consists of several components such as logical reasoning, finding rhyming words and naming objects.

The score for the IQ test in combination with a child's age, provides information on the intellectual development of the child: is the child ahead of or lagging other children? The IQ was calculated as (mental age/chronological age) X 100. The test came to be a huge success, both in Europe and America.
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IQ tests basically measure if a person is good at taking tests- not if they have actual intelligence.
 
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Zippyjuan said:
IQ tests were developed not to see who was smart but to determine who was developmentally disabled.

https://www.123test.com/history-of-IQ-test/
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I'm calling bullshit, though admittedly it is a mix of truth and lies.

There is absolutely no logical reason why you would need to make a test that difficult in order to simply distinguish the mentally retarded children from the "normally" intelligent children. A much lower level test could be designed for that purpose. So anybody who makes the statement that the sole purpose of the IQ test was to distinguish mentally challenged children from normally intelligent children, is, imo, kinda retarded.

However, the IQ test seems to be designed in part to distinguish mentally challenged individuals from "normally" intelligent individuals, because it does in fact test a very wide spectrum of intelligence. It also seems to have served another purpose which the article did explain quite well. That other purpose is to determine whether a child who was not doing well in school had the mental capacity to perform better and were just 'lazy', or whether they lacked the mental capacity to do well in school.
 
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dannno said:
I'm calling bull$#@!, though admittedly it is a mix of truth and lies.

There is absolutely no logical reason why you would need to make a test that difficult in order to simply distinguish the mentally retarded children from the "normally" intelligent children. A much lower level test could be designed for that purpose. So anybody who makes the statement that the sole purpose of the IQ test was to distinguish mentally challenged children from normally intelligent children, is, imo, kinda retarded.

However, the IQ test seems to be designed in part to distinguish mentally challenged individuals from "normally" intelligent individuals, because it does in fact test a very wide spectrum of intelligence. It also seems to have served another purpose which the article did explain quite well. That other purpose is to determine whether a child who was not doing well in school had the mental capacity to perform better and were just 'lazy', or whether they lacked the mental capacity to do well in school.
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It has changed over time, but yes, that is the reason the test was first developed. And again, it does not really measure intelligence- only test taking skills.

https://www.edubloxtutor.com/history-iq-test/

However, Binet himself cautioned against misuse of the scale or misunderstanding of its implications. According to Binet, the scale was designed with a single purpose in mind; it was to serve as a guide to identify children in the schools who required special education. Its intention was not to be used as “a general device for ranking all pupils according to mental worth.” Binet also noted that “the scale, properly speaking, does not permit the measure of intelligence, because intellectual qualities are not superposable, and therefore cannot be measured as linear surfaces are measured.”2 Since, according to Binet, intelligence could not be described as a single score, the use of the Intelligence Quotient (IQ) as a definite statement of a child’s intellectual capability would be a serious mistake.
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The test results though, can predict certain things, as has been demonstrated in countless studies. Of course it's a matter of incomplete correlation, and does not actually measure intelligence.

As for Trump, he's not the kind of person who would score highly in it. However, that's not why he's a problem as President. I'd imagine he probably would score in the 100-115 range, which is slightly above average. The skills he does have (deceiving dumb people who don't use reason) would not really show up very well on it.
 
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dannno said:
This was a school of high achievers with the necessary means for a necessary means for a quality higher education.
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Yeah.

"Necessary means."

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