What if we resurrected the Democratic-Republican Party?

[nate895]

That was your state convention? 159 Attending? At 107 then you would have a super majority. So bring 21 more voters to your next state convention and unseat the chair first off. Replace with your own Parlimentarian immediately, and you control the gavel.



Even with only a simple majority, you could have done anything you wanted to if you knew (and your chair recognized) Robert's Rules.

But 2009 is special. it is the election of all the party chairpersons. The executives who actually run the GOP. So bring 21 more voters, and now your own guy owns the state GOP.

Our state convention had apx. 1400 delegates. We had, at least by the end of the convention, a majority by 10 seats. They got out of us passing any more resolutions by having made, at the beginning of the convention, a rule book that prevented us from going off of their set agenda without a 2/3 majority. The reason they were able to pass that is that the sympathetic Huck and Romney delegates were unaware of their plans, and they had rushed through by limiting debate to twenty minutes, which was just short enough to prevent the seating of our alternates.

 

[BeFranklin]

That was your state convention? 159 Attending? At 107 then you would have a super majority. So bring 21 more voters to your next state convention and unseat the chair first off. Replace with your own Parlimentarian immediately, and you control the gavel.



Even with only a simple majority, you could have done anything you wanted to if you knew (and your chair recognized) Robert's Rules.

But 2009 is special. it is the election of all the party chairpersons. The executives who actually run the GOP. So bring 21 more voters, and now your own guy owns the state GOP.

Ok, that should be our next short term goal for 2009. We haven't lost momentum as our convention we just had shows. We can do it I nominate you for organizing it

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

bump

 

[Jeremy]

Uh, in case you didn't know the real name of it was the Republican Party....

 

[acptulsa]

Isn't that the party we have? As in, isn't that the only party we have?

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

Uh, in case you didn't know the real name of it was the Republican Party....

It was called both the Republican Party and Democratic Party interchangeably. Hence why the overall name of the party was the Democratic-Republican Party.

 

[Jeremy]

It was called both the Republican Party and Democratic Party interchangeably. Hence why the overall name of the party was the Democratic-Republican Party.

No, the word "democrat" was used as an insult back then. Some Republicans were affiliated with the Democratic-Republican Societies (which the Federalists did not like). I'm guessing historians use the name to avoid confusion (or maybe the societies name just caught on after a while). Although parties weren't much of anything back then and no one cared about names, they refereed to themselves as Republicans.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

No, the word "democrat" was used as an insult back then. Some Republicans were affiliated with the Democratic-Republican Societies (which the Federalists did not like). I'm guessing historians use the name to avoid confusion (or maybe the societies name just caught on after a while). Although parties weren't much of anything back then and no one cared about names, they refereed to themselves as Republicans.

"Democrat" started out as an insult, but it was soon embraced by the more libertarian faction of the party by the beginning of the 1800s. "Democratic-Republican Party" was the name of the group for the bulk of its existence.

 

[Jeremy]

It's still the Republican Party.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

It's still the Republican Party.

It's actually the Democratic Party these days. The Dems are really the only currently existing party descending directly from the Democratic-Republican Party.

 

[nate895]

It's actually the Democratic Party these days. The Dems are really the only currently existing party descending directly from the Democratic-Republican Party.

The GOP is descended too.

It goes

Dem-Rep of Jefferson-Democrats
or
Dem-Rep of Jefferson-National Republican Party-Whig Party-Republican Party

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

The GOP is descended too.

It goes

Dem-Rep of Jefferson-Democrats
or
Dem-Rep of Jefferson-National Republican Party-Whig Party-Republican Party

Actually, the modern Republican Party is not descended from the Whig Party. It is another party entirely that rose up of its own accord, though many Whigs happened to defect to it.

 

[nate895]

Actually, the modern Republican Party is not descended from the Whig Party. It is another party entirely that rose up of its own accord, though many Whigs happened to defect to it.

Former Whigs made it. If we decided to form this party, and it replaced the Republicans as the Right-wing party, we'd be considered descended from them. In your instance, the Democratic Party was the idea of Martin Van Buren, not a descendant of the party of Jefferson, when we know it is since it had the same ideas as one faction of the party.

 

[Jeremy]

No, Whigs did not make the GOP. That's like saying Republicans made the LP.

 

[nate895]

No, Whigs did not make the GOP. That's like saying Republicans made the LP.

Former Republicans did make the Whigs, and the Republicans took a faction of the whigs. Libertarians have sometimes been members of the GOP, but the GOP never was a libertarian party. The Republicans were the former Northern, free soil, Whigs.

 

[aspiringconstitutionalist]

Former Republicans did make the Whigs, and the Republicans took a faction of the whigs. Libertarians have sometimes been members of the GOP, but the GOP never was a libertarian party. The Republicans were the former Northern, free soil, Whigs.

Whoa. I just went cross-eyed, reading that.

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

Those who frequent the chat know I'd jump at the chance for something like this.

I'm hypothetically on board.