What has Judge Napolitano said about SCOTUS Obamacare decision?

[Matt Collins]

Does anyone have any video or commentary from the Judge? I would be interested in seeing his take.



There is a theory floating around (Ben Swann) about how it is now invalid since it is a "tax" and was introduced in the Senate. I would like to know his take on it?

 

[Reason]

I am also looking for opinions on this opinion...

http://www.imcitizen.net/chief-justice-roberts-is-a-genius/

 

[TheTexan]

Not really related to OP but I just read an article on CNN that praised the decision as a "proud day for bipartisan deliberation." I just thought that was funny.

also not related, this country is going down the shitter faster than I expected

 

[Root]

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Wow, that's interesting. So Roberts has stated that he will do everything he can to rule acts of Congress as Constitutional?

Perhaps his true secret agenda is to end (or limit) judicial review? If he states upfront he will rule everything Constitutional, that pretty much takes them out of the business of judicial review.

 

[davidkachel]

Does anyone have any video or commentary from the Judge? I would be interested in seeing his take.



There is a theory floating around (Ben Swann) about how it is now invalid since it is a "tax" and was introduced in the Senate. I would like to know his take on it?

It doesn't matter. What yesterday proved was that there simply is no longer a Constitution or rule of law. The leftists have taken over and are now capable of getting anything they want with any absurd excuse they care to use. They no longer even care if the excuse is superficially plausible.

What Judge Napolitano thinks no longer matters. Votes no longer matter. Opinions are just so much noise. Whoever is elected in November is irrelevant. The very best that can happen is that the march to a completed totalitarian state might be delayed a few weeks or months. The die is cast and the collectivists have won. It is over.

The founders of this nation warned us not to fall asleep at the switch and we ignored them. The only remaining options are to refresh the tree of liberty or forever be slaves to our own government. Buy yourself a gun.

 

[Matt Collins]

It doesn't matter. What yesterday proved was that there simply is no longer a Constitution or rule of law. The leftists have taken over and are now capable of getting anything they want with any absurd excuse they care to use. They no longer even care if the excuse is superficially plausible.

What Judge Napolitano thinks no longer matters. Votes no longer matter. Opinions are just so much noise. Whoever is elected in November is irrelevant. The very best that can happen is that the march to a completed totalitarian state might be delayed a few weeks or months. The die is cast and the collectivists have won. It is over.

The founders of this nation warned us not to fall asleep at the switch and we ignored them. The only remaining options are to refresh the tree of liberty or forever be slaves to our own government. Buy yourself a gun.

Votes do matter, who is elected and who governs matters. But the state level is where our focus needs to be IMO.

 

[cindy25]

Not really related to OP but I just read an article on CNN that praised the decision as a "proud day for bipartisan deliberation." I just thought that was funny.

also not related, this country is going down the shitter faster than I expected

CNN is as much in the tank for Obama as MSNBC; christiane amanpour called the decision a great victory for all Americans

 

[davidkachel]

Votes do matter, who is elected and who governs matters. But the state level is where our focus needs to be IMO.

Matt, I used to think so too. And BTW I was/am a big RP supporter. Doesn't matter. I have been watching this for more than half a century. Votes only matter if someone like Ron Paul could get elected. He can't. They won't let it happen. There has to be someone real and genuine for whom you can vote. There never is. All they ever present is puppets. And if you look carefully, the puppet master has one puppet on each hand; right and left. There is no real choice except to take one more step toward slavery. Yesterday our fate was sealed by a genuine traitor to the Constitution and more importantly, to liberty. You may not see it now. Many people won't. But the game is over. Your vote in November will count for nothing, regardless of who wins.

Your are fantasizing about the states. All the states need to do is nullify Obamacare. Simply declare it null and void. They have the power. Do you see any governor's doing that? Of course not. Even here in Texas our cowardly so-called conservative governor does nothing. And he won't. Take that to the bank.

It is time to dig 'em up.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Yes, by ruling it a tax, and it originating in the Senate, it is BLATANTLY unconstitutional, but that question was not put to SCOTUS so they did not rule on it. A whole 'nuther NEW court action will now have to start to make the case that the Obamacare TAX originated from the Senate, which is blatantly unconstitutional.

 

[davidkachel]

GunnyFreedom,
You are making the same mistake we have all made for years. It doesn't matter what the law or Constitution say. They will simply move the goal posts, as they JUST DID! Truth, freedom, justice, none of it matters. The only thing that matters is what they want: your freedom. Lots and lots of people tried to use the law and German constitution to stop Hitler. There was no possibility of success because the game was rigged. No doubt they made dozens of completely valid legal arguments to stop Hitler's actions. They wasted their time because they made the erroneous assumption that victory was within the realm of the possible.
Our country has be taken over by leftists and there is no possibility they will willingly give us our freedom back.

 

[Travlyr]

Wow, that's interesting. So Roberts has stated that he will do everything he can to rule acts of Congress as Constitutional?

Perhaps his true secret agenda is to end (or limit) judicial review? If he states upfront he will rule everything Constitutional, that pretty much takes them out of the business of judicial review.

Perhaps so. The Supreme Court is not granted the power of judicial review by the Constitution. They just assumed power that was not granted to them. This move clearly shows that they do not intend to use that power now. It also fits the narrative that Judge Andrew Napolitano mentioned in his response. "... it (the court) thinks of how generations later and even centuries later ... lawyers and judges, obviously as yet unborn, will look back on this day, and ascertain their intellectual honesty".

The time is ripe for the people and the States to reclaim what is rightfully their Constitutional power.


The Supreme Court and Judicial Review

 

[libertyjam]

Matt, I used to think so too. And BTW I was/am a big RP supporter. Doesn't matter. I have been watching this for more than half a century. Votes only matter if someone like Ron Paul could get elected. He can't. They won't let it happen. There has to be someone real and genuine for whom you can vote. There never is. All they ever present is puppets. And if you look carefully, the puppet master has one puppet on each hand; right and left. There is no real choice except to take one more step toward slavery. Yesterday our fate was sealed by a genuine traitor to the Constitution and more importantly, to liberty. You may not see it now. Many people won't. But the game is over. Your vote in November will count for nothing, regardless of who wins.

Your are fantasizing about the states. All the states need to do is nullify Obamacare. Simply declare it null and void. They have the power. Do you see any governor's doing that? Of course not. Even here in Texas our cowardly so-called conservative governor does nothing. And he won't. Take that to the bank.

It is time to dig 'em up.

Texas Governor Rick Perry: Special Session in Texas House for Federal Health Care Nullification Act

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

I believe Peter Schiff said that this tax is not Constitutional as the only direct tax is the one layed on income.

 

[davidkachel]

Geez fellas, you really don't get it do you?!!

You are arguing whether the "tax" is constitutional. Obamacare was clearly unconstitutional. Did that make any difference???

You are trying to reason with a big fat drunk whose IQ is 62. You are wasting your time. Every time you make an argument, the drunk will punch you in the face, burn your argument and have another beer. Yet you keep telling yourself that maybe you won't get punched in the face if you can just come up with a more compelling argument.

SHOOT the G*DDAMNED drunk!

 

[Matt Collins]

Votes only matter if someone like Ron Paul could get elected.

Incorrect, read this: http://training4liberty.org/facl2/info.htm


and this --

Your are fantasizing about the states. All the states need to do is nullify Obamacare. Simply declare it null and void. They have the power. Do you see any governor's doing that? Of course not. Even here in Texas our cowardly so-called conservative governor does nothing. And he won't. Take that to the bank.

All politicians react to pressure in very specific ways. If you put enough pressure on a politician, at the right time, and on the right issue, you can get them to change their vote. On the state level, it's very easy to do (compared to the federal level) most state legislators will change their vote if they hear from a dozen of their constituents on most issues.

If you can get them on record saying something bad or voting poorly, then if you can communicate that to the voters in the district, you can cause them immense pain and thus change their behavior. If you do that enough they will eventually start voting the right way.

 

[davidkachel]

Matt, if you were right, something would be happening. Something would have happened at some time in the last 75 years.
Listen! All you hear is crickets.
No meaningful amount of freedom has been regained at any time, anywhere. You are delusional. It is an unstoppable behemoth advancing quickly and relentlessly toward total enslavement. The vast majority of Americans WANT TO BE SLAVES! They beg for it. Reach out their hands for it, and vote for politicians who promise it.
If the remedies you imagine can work could in fact do so, they would have already.
This process of enslavement started OVER a century ago. What do you think is going to change, now that they have gotten everything they want? Do you REALLY think they are just going to hand you your freedom back now that they have succeeded in taking it away?

 

[Matt Collins]

Matt, if you were right, something would be happening. Something would have happened at some time in the last 75 years.

Something IS happening. We are trending upwards in case you haven't noticed.

Don't be a defeatist!

No meaningful amount of freedom has been regained at any time, anywhere. You are delusional. It is an unstoppable behemoth advancing quickly and relentlessly toward total enslavement. The vast majority of Americans WANT TO BE SLAVES! They beg for it. Reach out their hands for it, and vote for politicians who promise it.
If the remedies you imagine can work could in fact do so, they would have already.
This process of enslavement started OVER a century ago. What do you think is going to change, now that they have gotten everything they want? Do you REALLY think they are just going to hand you your freedom back now that they have succeeded in taking it away?

It's incremental change we are working for, not quick immediate gratification. It took over a century to get here, it's going to take us close to that to deconstruct it. Before we can destruct the skyscraper we have to stop building it.

What state do you live in? Is your local CFL active? Do you know who holds the power in your state legislature? Do you know your State Rep and State Senator? What legislation will be focused on in the 2013 session? Have you worked to get any bills killed?


I am doing my part, are you doing yours?

 

[mrsat_98]

Wow, that's interesting. So Roberts has stated that he will do everything he can to rule acts of Congress as Constitutional?

Perhaps his true secret agenda is to end (or limit) judicial review? If he states upfront he will rule everything Constitutional, that pretty much takes them out of the business of judicial review.

Does anyone have any video or commentary from the Judge? I would be interested in seeing his take.



There is a theory floating around (Ben Swann) about how it is now invalid since it is a "tax" and was introduced in the Senate. I would like to know his take on it?

Yes, by ruling it a tax, and it originating in the Senate, it is BLATANTLY unconstitutional, but that question was not put to SCOTUS so they did not rule on it. A whole 'nuther NEW court action will now have to start to make the case that the Obamacare TAX originated from the Senate, which is blatantly unconstitutional.

By ruling it a tax based on the amount of money changing hands it is by definition an income tax. By now everyone should understand that an income tax applies to everyone but the people.

I believe Peter Schiff said that this tax is not Constitutional as the only direct tax is the one layed on income.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Yes, by ruling it a tax, and it originating in the Senate, it is BLATANTLY unconstitutional, but that question was not put to SCOTUS so they did not rule on it. A whole 'nuther NEW court action will now have to start to make the case that the Obamacare TAX originated from the Senate, which is blatantly unconstitutional.

Boy, I can't wait until a Government agency rules against itself! You actually think they follow their own supposed 'law'? Haha. Like they ruled the War Between the State was unconstitutional, or interning american citizens was unconstitutional, etc. etc.

They could say fuck you this shit be real fool and what are you going to do? Anyone pinning any hope on the Federal Government ruling against expanding its own powers...I have the Brooklyn Bridge to sell you