What Does The Authoritarian Trump Supports? The Cops.

[erowe1]

The people around here who support Trump consider this a positive.

And that last is a very good thing. (tm).

Thanks you duly elected sheriffs, appointed deputies, volunteers, and conscientious citizens who daily try to protect others including myself.

Without you, we would not have a civilized country or a capitalistic society.

Thank you, enforcers of basic laws like don't steal from others and don't murder!

Thank you that real criminals can't victimize anyone they think they can get away with it! Thank you for the sacrifices you make righting wrongs and protecting others, the very essence of being a good guy.

*drops microphone*

 

[Natural Citizen]

*drops microphone*

eeeyep.

 

[phill4paul]

Thank you law enforcement for having the capability and time to get criminals we can't, your entire, legitimate, and right purpose.

From the beginning American policing has been intimately tied not to the problem of crime, but to exigencies and demands of the American political-economy. From the anti-immigrant bashing of early police forces, to the strike breaking of the later 1800s, to the massive corruption of the early 20th century, through professionalism, Taylorization and now attempts at amelioration through community policing, the role of the police in the United States has been defined by economics and politics, not crime or crime control.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?469181-The-History-of-Policing-in-the-United-States

The court stated that "official police personnel and the government employing them are not generally liable to victims of criminal acts for failure to provide adequate police protection." According to the court, this rule "rests upon the fundamental principle that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen." (Id. emphasis added)

The Supreme Court itself ruled that one has no constitutional right to state protection in DeShaney v. Winnebego County Dep't. of Soc. Servs., 489 U.S. 189, 109 S. Ct. 998, 103 L. Ed. 2d 249 (1989). Every jurisdiction in the country has upheld similar rulings. It's part of the "qualified immunity" that government claims for itself. It's one of the most well-settled issues in American Jurisprudence.

Government, AT ANY LEVEL, has no positive duty to protect your life, liberty, or property. They tell you flat out, if you bother to look, that this is the case.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?228509-The-Myth-of-Police-Protection

 

[FindLiberty]

Sound like thugs operating under color of law. SNAFU

 

[unknown]

Scary times ahead should Von Trump be appointed.

 

[CPUd]

 

[GunnyFreedom]

I said law enforcement, which includes sheriffs also mentioned in my post, and I did not say policing agency.

If you are going to nitpick, read the whole post - including the next few sentences, which conceptualizes everything you are not understanding, and do not use terms I did not use to build strawmen which you can then knock down - wasting time.

We certainly had sheriffs, and deputies, and posses, and citizens arrest, and the hue and cry. They've existed for close to a thousand years in part.

Thanks - I'm not playing. Take the bad mood and reading somewhere else.

what in the Sam Hill do Sheriffs have to do with the federal government?

 

[phill4paul]

what in the Sam Hill do Sheriffs have to do with the federal government?

I suppose it depends on what funds in exchange for fed.gov compliance, military cast-offs and MIAC report adherence they apply for or acquiesce to.

 

[CPUd]

 

[Anti Federalist]

The only valid purpose of government is to have law enforcement - a necessary condition for capitalism according to Rand (as well as according to reason).

In a volunteer society, that power would be local elected sheriffs, deputies, and the called forth posse as needed from the local citizens - which would be anyone that wanted to participate - (as well as citizen arrest and the hue and cry for crimes witnessed in progress).

Supporting law enforcement is a good thing. It does not mean supporting bad examples of law enforcement absent the specific bad thing being supported being mentioned in a general category which by its nature is a good thing.

LOL...stated by a man with "Spirit of 1776" as his screename.

O the ironing...

 

[Anti Federalist]

“Police are supposed to be local people, and they’re supposed to be peace officers,”. Ron Paul on legitimate law enforcement.

And that they are supposed to be per wording.

Thank you law enforcement - per Donald Trump and Ron Paul.

Trump wanted the death penalty for the Central Park jogger defendants.

Turns out they were all innocent.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Apples and bowling balls.

Police are the enforcement arm of an evil system.

What do you mean you support fireman?

"If there are any bad fireman, then all fireman are evil. Because that's (sic) the logic I was taught to use (hic)".

"firemen are evil. In fact, by the part being the whole, everything is evil. That's my logic. if I spam it a lot, it becomes true."

 

[tod evans]

And that last is a very good thing. (tm).

Thanks you duly elected sheriffs, appointed deputies, volunteers, and conscientious citizens who daily try to protect others including myself.

Without you, we would not have a civilized country or a capitalistic society.

Thank you, enforcers of basic laws like don't steal from others and don't murder!

Thank you that real criminals can't victimize anyone they think they can get away with it! Thank you for the sacrifices you make righting wrongs and protecting others, the very essence of being a good guy.

Promoting the fallacy that kops of any stripe are "there to protect you" runs counter to logic and truth.

Take your victimhood and stuff it where the sun don't shine, feckless wraith.

Copsucker

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Apples and bowling balls.

Police Law enforcement are can be the enforcement arm of an evil system.

It bothers me when I see too many users that can't use simple logic following definitions on a forum.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

LOL...stated by a man with "Spirit of 1776" as his screename.

O the ironingirony...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

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All we are establishing on this thread is Trump isn't an authoritarian by wanting a government that secures those rights. And that most of the posters aren't heirs to the founding fathers.

 

[CPUd]

 

[bunklocoempire]

I want to convince you to use your legs, so I demand that you will pay these fine folks to carry you every where.

That is the logic of having cops and rights, supposedly able to exist side by side -it ain't going to work. Ditch the cops, and keep your rights.

F trump and his anti-logic.

 

[William Tell]

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All we are establishing on this thread is Trump isn't an authoritarian by wanting a government that secures those rights. And that most of the posters aren't heirs to the founding fathers.

All we are establishing is Trump is an authoritarian who admires communist China.

 

[CPUd]