What does Bob Barr mean to the revolution?

[Todd]

IMO. One of the best things that can come of Barr and any other third party candidate is to weaken the two party system. The more viable options there are out there during the election...the better it is .

 

[Printo]

I like Barr. He exemplifies a more traditional conservative/libertarian ideology. Clearly voting Barr is a protest vote. I think its necessary to send a message to the GOP to get their shit together because what the neocons have done is inexcusable.

As for Ron Paul endorsing one of those 3, I seriously doubt he will endorse anyone. He seems to want his supporters to vote for themselves.

As for Gravel. He is in NO WAY getting the LP nomination. He is near last in fundraising. Barr will be the candidate. I also hope Gravel is not put on the ticket. He does have name recognition but he is a globalist socialist and Im not having that.

And if the LP receives over 5% in the election, then they will receive equal federal funding as the GOP & Dems in the following election. Thats enough to matter. Possibly the LP could give the GOP a run for their money.

 

[MMolloy]

I have I mentioned in a couple previous posts that Ron Paul specifically calls out Bob Barr in his book. This is the only candidate Ron Paul even mentions in his book and he does so negatively. I see no reason whey he would even bother unless he was warning us about him. Ron Paul is no fan of Barr's, he obviously does not trust him.
Baldwin is, by far, more consistent than Barr - this is who I will probably support.

Agree 100%
If Ron was going to endorse anyone it would be Chuck Baldwin over Bob Barr, but HE WON'T BE ENDORSING ANYONE (for President)



Chuck has a better understanding of the issues and has been much more vocal in his support of Ron
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=c84pJ6E7BYg
... hmmm I'm having trouble finding Bob Barr's endorsement of Ron Paul

His timing (Nov '07) and analysis of Mike Huckabee was right on the money: CHRISTIANS NEED TO BEWARE OF MIKE HUCKABEE
http://www. newswithviews. com/baldwin/baldwin411. htm

and later in Nov '07
More Reasons To Beware Of Mike Huckabee
http://www. chuckbaldwinlive. com/c2007/cbarchive_20071127. html

and then again warning us observantely of the what his foreign policy might be like on Jan 4, 2008: We Desperately Need The "Confessing Church"
http://www. chuckbaldwinlive. com/c2007/cbarchive_20080104. html

where he states: "Huckabee is Bush on Steroids–a Man Globalists Can Trust"

There are just too many articles to reference where Chuck reports insightfully about all of the other candidates... taking specific aim at Romney, McCain etc.

 

[Jeremy]

I think Bob Barr is a good candidate for POTUS. A lot of people here are expecting to find somebody as close to "perfection" as RP... but Ron Paul is seriously unique. I understand the issues that anti-Barr people bring up, but I think these people are living in the past.

Watch Barr's introduction of Ron Paul at CPAC... that's when I realized that he was in fact in this revolution. Chuck Baldwin is as well... see his endorsement video from the beginning of the campaign.

 

[hypnagogue]

I keep seeing people say, "but he's changed!" but what I want to know is what he has done since 'changing'. Can anyone direct me to projects he's been involved in which would lend some credibility to his conversion.

What I've personally found is only the things which he did while in Congress. I gotta say, they're horrible.

 

[stevedasbach]

I am noticing Bob Barr is starting to make the news. I have read his views and I know about him since he is from a state I have lived in for many years. He is strongly conservative, a strong pro-gun advocate and he speaks against the government's continuing attempts to remove our privacy.

Yes, I realize he signed the Patriot Act, but he has since said he has re-thought this position on the PA and it was a bad thing. (Incidently, he did help get the Sunshine provision in the PA that made the PA expire and have to be re-voted on).

So, what does the Ron Paul community think about him? Will you personally support his candidacy as a Libertarian? Will you actively work against him? More importantly, what does his candidacy mean to the revolution? Should we welcome Barr as another one of us, or not?

I've maxed out to Bob Barr (as I did to Ron Paul) and will be working to help him gain the Libertarian Party nomination in Denver this coming weekend. I definitely think his campaign deserves our support.

 

[stevedasbach]

I keep seeing people say, "but he's changed!" but what I want to know is what he has done since 'changing'. Can anyone direct me to projects he's been involved in which would lend some credibility to his conversion.

What I've personally found is only the things which he did while in Congress. I gotta say, they're horrible.

* Working with ACLU defending civil liberties and opposing the Patriot Act.

* Lobbying on behalf of the Marijuana Policy Project.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I keep seeing people say, "but he's changed!" but what I want to know is what he has done since 'changing'. Can anyone direct me to projects he's been involved in which would lend some credibility to his conversion.

What I've personally found is only the things which he did while in Congress. I gotta say, they're horrible.

The "conversion" argument is in large part silly. He started working with the ACLU to defend privacy and civil liberties in war concerning terrorism starting with the 1996 anti-terrorism legislation. People throwing out the "neocon" and other canards are either willfully ignorant or just plain lying.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I've maxed out to Bob Barr (as I did to Ron Paul) and will be working to help him gain the Libertarian Party nomination in Denver this coming weekend. I definitely think his campaign deserves our support.

Wow. For those who don't know Steve, he's been a long-time LP activist and national party leader.

 

[Printo]

Clearly we all want Ron Paul, but we are not going to get him to run or to get a clone just like him to run. Bob Barr is the closest thing we got to make a major impact on this election.

He is what we are, a pissed off Conservative seeking some kind of libertarian reform in the GOP. He's polling pretty well already & could make a major impact this election. Maybe enough to catapult the LP into talks as a major (I mean really major) third party. With over 5%, the LP would get federal funding in the following election.

Bush destroyed the GOP and we dont have all the kings knights and all the kings men to put the GOP back together again. Perhaps people will take the LP seriously following this election if Barr makes a significant impact, which I think he will.

 

[dannno]

* Working with ACLU defending civil liberties and opposing the Patriot Act.

* Lobbying on behalf of the Marijuana Policy Project.

Yes, I believe he has converted..

I don't think he's quite Ron Paul, but he may be our best option... and not a lesser of two "evils" so to speak..

 

[kigol]

IMO. One of the best things that can come of Barr and any other third party candidate is to weaken the two party system. The more viable options there are out there during the election...the better it is .

lets hope.

 

[JMann]

I just hope the LP has enough sense to nominate Barr so there will be a legitimate third option.

 

[mdh]

I'm still hoping that Barr will make a lot of us happy and answer Susan Hogarth's open letter.

They're not difficult questions to answer, and even if he doesn't think we'd like the answers, we'd appreciate the honesty and candor regardless. I have a lot of substantive disagreements with Gravel but I still like the guy a lot based on his honesty, guts, and personality in addition to the policy points where we agree. Most intelligent folks realize they're not going to agree with a candidate 100%.

 

[constituent]

I'm still hoping that Barr will make a lot of us happy and answer Susan Hogarth's open letter.

They're not difficult questions to answer, and even if he doesn't think we'd like the answers, we'd appreciate the honesty and candor regardless. I have a lot of substantive disagreements with Gravel but I still like the guy a lot based on his honesty, guts, and personality in addition to the policy points where we agree. Most intelligent folks realize they're not going to agree with a candidate 100%.

+1000, though i'm no libertarian.

 

[thx1149]

Thank you to the people that mentioned Susan Hogarth's letter. Her letter and her blog do a decent job of summing up the problems that I and many other libertarians have with placing our support behind Barr. Please take a look:

Letter
Her Blog

 

[Alex Libman]

Bob Barr means to the revolution what hemorrhoids mean to anal sex.

 

[mdh]

Thank you to the people that mentioned Susan Hogarth's letter. Her letter and her blog do a decent job of summing up the problems that I and many other libertarians have with placing our support behind Barr. Please take a look:

Letter
Her Blog

An example of a mature and intelligent post.

Bob Barr means to the revolution what hemorrhoids mean to anal sex.

And... yeah.

 

[kylejack]

Bob Barr is dead to the Revolution. Hopefully he'll never get another dime for endorsing Gingrich.