What do you think Ron should try to work in at the debate in Tampa Monday?

Expand on the silver dime story. It's not an 18th century thing, they were minted as recently as 1964, when gas was 10 cents a gallon.

Talk about how artificially low interest rates from the fed hurt CD rates and seniors with savings. Not everyone is a big debtor who wants lower rates forever.

Talk about free trade and travel with Cuba. This would be gutsy, since Cuban exiles there hate Castro and don't want to end the embargo, but it's the right thing to do, and it's time.
 
Expand on the silver dime story. It's not an 18th century thing, they were minted as recently as 1964, when gas was 10 cents a gallon.

Talk about how artificially low interest rates from the fed hurt CD rates and seniors with savings. Not everyone is a big debtor who wants lower rates forever.

Talk about free trade and travel with Cuba. This would be gutsy, since Cuban exiles there hate Castro and don't want to end the embargo, but it's the right thing to do, and it's time.

Best I could find, the price of gasoline was around a dime back in 1930.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_did_gasoline_cost_in_1930

In 1965 it was around $0.31.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_price_of_gas_in_1965

But yes, it wasn't an 18th century thing.

I agree with expanding on the silver dime story though. I also believe stress should be placed on how inflation is robbing people of their savings and especially the old people on fixed incomes. The problem is, it takes too much time to explain what inflation is. Most people think it means higher prices and don't understand it is caused by the injection of excessive currency in the system.

Edit: Of course we can look at the current value of that 1964 dime as being $2.9933 just from the metal in it. That would come close to buying a gallon of gasoline.
 
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Foreign Policy and the Military
I am not sure Ron Paul actually feels this way... but, on his foreign policy and returning our troops home I would love it if he would start off the answer with the following:
Make no mistake... I want our military to be the strongest and most capable in the world. Anyone foolish enough to attack America would be making a serious misjudgment. And, as president, I would aggressively pursue and defeat any such aggressors once authorized by Congress and the Constitution.
Then, go into the details of returning our troops who are spread around the globe... fighting in wars never authorized by Congress... and resulting in American deaths on foreign soil.


There is some concern is several voting factions about his foreign policy. If he were to make it clear he would kick the holy living shit out of anyone stupid enough to f*ck with us I think it would calm them concerns and win a huge segment of the voters... particularly in the Republican primaries. Again, I am not sure that is his actual position or thoughts on the matter.
 
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I am not sure Ron Paul actually feels this way... but, on his foreign policy and returning our troops home I would love it if he would start off the answer with the following:
Make no mistake... I want our military to be the strongest and most capable in the world. Anyone foolish enough to attack America would be making a serious misjudgment. And, as president, I would aggressively pursue and defeat any such aggressors once authorized by Congress and the Constitution.
Then, go into the details of returning our troops who are spread around the globe... fighting in wars never authorized by Congress... and resulting in American deaths on foreign soil.


There is some concern is several voting factions about his foreign policy. If he were to make it clear he would kick the holy living shit out of anyone stupid enough to f*ck with us I think it would calm them concerns and win a huge segment of the voters... particularly in the Republican primaries. Again, I am not sure that is his actual position or thoughts on the matter.

He opposed the SALT II treaty because he said the USSR had violated every treaty it ever entered, the treaty gave them the right to 'update' the USSR stockpile without any similar for the US, and he thought it unconscionable that US security should be hostage to USSR promises.

Bombing people who live in the desert with no realistic capability of attacking us, that's different.
 
The Fence and Illegal Immigration
If asked about the fence thing again I would love it if he went in a different direction. Say that we don't need a fence at all. That, by returning our troops home we would have more than sufficient manpower to monitor and prevent most of the illegal immigration into this country.
 
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Money, Money, Money

Talk to people's pocketbooks and bellies. Goodness knows there is enough material here to fill several hours, let alone the 15ish minutes he will probably receive.

Moreover, he can tie economics into virtually every issue in the debate, without going off-topic.

Inflation for example, should be a serious economic concern (even more so) to those people on fixed incomes. If he can drive this point forward, it would help.

But make sure to be clear, concise, and to not be *so* ambitious with the answers.
 
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FEMA, Local & State Response, The National Guard
I would like it if he could clarify the argument for getting rid of FEMA. Yes, it needs to go, but that notion is a new thought for most voters. Talk about how the system is $XXX billion in debt... how they failed miserably during Katrina and other recent (not too much history) history... how FEMA regulations created by a bureaucracy in Washington actually hinder individual and local efforts to address the specific needs of the affected community.

Compare how FEMA responded to hurricane Irene and how much it cost... meanwhile, wildfires have been sweeping through the drought ridden central plains and several hundred homes have been destroyed... and, that BHO refused to provide federal relief in those areas. That relief efforts should not be dictated because of political whims of one man and an overly bureaucratic agency, such as FEMA has proven it is not the answer... but that the relief efforts would be better addressed by local, state and individuals who know their communities and what is needed.

Perhaps: "We need to responsibly dismantle FEMA and return those responsibilities to local agencies where they belong. And, that the money being collected for FEMA be returned to the states and the people so they have those funds and can decide how to spend them responsibly should a crisis arise."
 
The Fence and Illegal Immigration
If asked about the fence thing again I would love it if he went in a different direction. Say that we don't need a fence at all. That, by returning our troops home we would have more than sufficient manpower to monitor and prevent most of the illegal immigration into this country.

And if they ask about keep us in he should clarify with the ranchers that can't water their cattle on their ranches on the Rio Grande, farmers who won't be able to irrigate -- we fought a war for that river, once. If our troops are around, no need to fence ourselves away from its profitable use.
 
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!!!

This was originally written as a speech suggestion for Iowa... so, change words where needed:

Ron Paul speaking:
As president I will create as many real jobs as President Obama created. None... not one! My job as president is to let YOU create real jobs! To do that we have to get back to what made America great... We need to restore the freedom's that made this a great nation with a vibrant economy.

So, I am going to get government off your back... I will end deficit spending in Washington so your money retains its value... I will eliminate job killing regulations that make businesses timid about our future... I am going to stop the federal government from over taxing you and sending your money to Washington... I am going to let the people of Iowa decide how to spend their money and how to create real jobs.

As president I will make it easier for the folks in Iowa to sell their products to others. I will eliminate punative trade barriers... I will stop taking your money and giving it to giant corporations. To help you sell more Iowa products and create more Iowa jobs I will do the same for everyone in America. I will relieve the enormous tax burden and uncertainty in the business community. This way people in Illinois, New Hampshire, New York, California, South Carolina and every state in America can get the government off their backs and get real businesses back to work doing what they do best... and creating jobs.

And those jobs created across the Nation will mean more demand for Iowa products... and more sales... and better business and the real jobs that come for real business. The people of Iowa know what you need more than some politician in Washington. You don't need to be sending them your money to make more bad decisions for Iowa.

We need to get America back to work with real jobs, not government handouts and pretend jobs... Together we can put Iowa back to work... let's win this election and Restore America Now!
 
Winning over the Small Business Owners
It seems to me that RPs stance on the economy plays directly into the wants and needs of small and medium size business owners. Get the fed off their back... stop the overtaxing... stop the over regulation... stop funding the giant corporation against whom they compete with the taxes of the small business owner. And, that a sound dollar and stable economic environment would allow small businesses to plan and grow. It seems to me there is a lot of potential gain for small business owners with Ron Paul as president. So, I think they are a natural target. Winning their support could go a long way to gaining supporters... both the owner, family and all the employees of these small businesses as America recovers and begins to grow again creating more jobs.... stable employment and the chance for growth.



If RP could reach this group it would help with donations as well.
Plus, this group would be an excellent source for Congressional candidates with an actual chance to win
 
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It's the Economy Stupid!!!
This election is very likely to be all about the economy. If RP can present his plans... in simple, easy to understand language... he will win the whole damned thing. I hope we can keep need to keep down the negatives and that Ron will answer the touchy questions with the short, to the point answers and solutions. These solutions should clearly show the benefits of a sound economy... and, by extrapolation, demonstrate the RP has the answers to address and fix the problems with our Economy.

As stated earlier (sorry, forgot who)... its about Money! If Ron can give people a personal reason showing the benefits for them he will get their vote. Keep down the negative (they can spell doom) and change the discussion to solutions rather than predictions. Ron has a great record and history of presenting the same message that has now been realized as truth. The other candidates are echoing many of RPs positions. So, leap frog their pathetic asses. Demonstrate solutions to the problems and paint a picture of a restored and prosperous America. An America that will benefit every voter.

Let others attack the Republican contenders... instead, take the lead and the high ground (politically and morally) and present an image of a restored America... and, how Ron Paul's solutions will get us there. Ron will need some sound bites here... no changes to his message... but, shorter and quotable to allow for the time limits of the debate. It will give the media something to repeat... and will hopefully result in some memorable phrases the voters will remember as well.
 
In Florida, Ron Paul should work on giving life examples of his ideas.

Regarding social security,

Why hasn't anyone given the buyout option for people who are not already in the system?

The federal government should make the offer to pay back ALL SSI and medicare payroll payments in one lump sum. People choosing that option will not have to continue to pay in to the system and their SS card will be turned in.

This would drastically cut down on the forward entitlements IMO as a lot of 30-40-50 year old's could use all that money now. Sure the gov would have to find somewhere to get that lump sum money from, but this would be an option that a lot of people would take, and it would reduce long term government borrowing, I think.

Haven't tried to crunch numbers, but an entitlement buyout seems like an idea that could work.
 
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No theory. Just his actual plans, what he will do as president. Again, NO THEORETICAL DISCUSSION. Divert all irrelevant questions back into what RP will do as president-- what will be different, what will be better.

RP is himself a senior citizen-- I think he could use this as a debate tool for the senior audience. Tell a few personal stories or something.. get the voters to connect with him as a human being.

And for crying out loud, stop asking the moderators for more time when you are mid-sentence, begging them for 15 seconds to finish your sentence. Just take the fucking moment, all the other candidates get more time than you do anyway.
 
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Ron needs ads with Barry Goldwater Jr saying something to the effect of "Only one candidate carries the principles my father had." Air this in Florida, as well as during Wheel of Fortune
He needs to advertise on Fox during the O'Reilly show. My parents (mid-70s) always watch O'Reilly, then they try to tell me how dangerous "those people" over there are....you know, the Islamofascists. Thats why we have to go bomb them.

They actually think this makes sense.
 
No, Ron has to make comments on the inflation issues (which affects all) and the Fed which Fs over the retirees that have saved dough. Of course this can be augmented by foreign spending. Anything else isn't priority #1, straight up. I like all of your ideas but, for real, realize what's good.
 
The main thing is for Dr. Paul to speak calmly and without tripping over himself. If he does that, then he will be right on point. From observing him over the years, I think his speaking style reflects his state of mind. When he speaks fast, he goes into abstraction and jumps over a lot of steps, leaving it to the people to connect the dots. When he's calm, he can really boil it down.

Since this is the chance to reach out to the Seniors, he should speak with Seniors in mind, as much as possible. This means absolutely no abstractions. Stress the fact that you want to save Social Security, reign in the Fed so people could get a return on their savings again, and the need to balance the budget and bring back the gold/silver standard to return strong currency.
 
This is a nationally televised debate. Why do you guys think more seniors will watch it?
 
Florida is heavy on retirees... Plus, Seniors probably turn out in droves for Republican debates.

It's broadcast nationally, I don't think more seniors are going to tune in just because it's in Florida. The Tea Parties are controlling ticket distribution from what I heard. I doubt they're handing them out in retirement communities.
 
No theory. Just his actual plans, what he will do as president. Again, NO THEORETICAL DISCUSSION. Divert all irrelevant questions back into what RP will do as president-- what will be different, what will be better.

RP is himself a senior citizen-- I think he could use this as a debate tool for the senior audience. Tell a few personal stories or something.. get the voters to connect with him as a human being.

And for crying out loud, stop asking the moderators for more time when you are mid-sentence, begging them for 15 seconds to finish your sentence. Just take the fucking moment, all the other candidates get more time than you do anyway.

I think he's been trained by the lights on the House floor...
 
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