What About The Anti-War Left?

JAYCEE

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Does the RP campaign have an outreach to the anti-war left? Someone like Mike Gravel or Dennis Kucinich would make a good ambassador to those people. If they vote strictly on the war issue, RP will have no problem winning the nomination.

There is no credible anti-war democrat. They should be easy to win over.
 
I participated in a peace rally here and have come to the conclusion after many conversations with the progressive democrats (and some socialists) in our metro area that while they like RP's stance on the war ...

1) they are terrified of his wanting to strip away the department of education and cutting welfare. It doesn't matter if I talk until I'm blue in the face, they don't seem to want to understand "let the states control things like this" ...

2) some code pink members refuse to vote for anyone on a major ticket (dem or repub). I leave them with this "food for thought" - if you REALLY want this war ended, you will vote for Ron Paul

3) the fact that RP is a republican from Texas ... doesn't go over well with some of the narrow minded democrats who loathe GWB - I keep focusing on the point that RP is the anti-Bush ;)
 
I thought so. I've never believed that the anti-war left is really anti-war. They are all in favor of war when it suits their ideology. They were for war on Serbia and now they want to send troops to Darfur (and Iran, I think).

I guess Hillary really is their girl.
 
A lot on the antiwar left really don't know that much about Ron Paul to start with. I suspect that many anti-war folks might support Ron Paul if they could stomach registering as Republicans in the closed primary states. I know I had to hold my nose to do so.

Of course, Paul's views on abortion and immigration are repugnant to many, including old time libertarians like myself, which doesn't help things along. Obviously Paul's views on free markets are not great selling points to traditional leftists. On the other hand Elizabeth Kucinich's recent favorable comments about a Paul/Kucinich ticket can't hurt.
 
There might be "Ron Paul democrats" as there were "Reagan democrats". There is also growing support for Ron Paul among independents. None of these currents are measured or reflected in current MSM polls.
 
Speaking as a one time "Democratic Socialist," I think the way to a leftist's heart is through the issue of civil liberties. I've always thought the issue of civil liberties was a huge consideration in making voting decisions. I don't think I was unusual in that respect. But it took a while, literally years of rethinking and reconsidering my perspectives, to come to the realization that liberty was incompatible with government strong-arming.

So, the pitch is something like this: Ron Paul opposes the Patriot Act. He is as alarmed as you are, and as no Democratic or other Republican candidate seems to be, about Bush's excesses of executive power, domestic spying, the suspension of habeas corpus. He wants to end the drug war. He wants to keep the federal government out of your bedroom. Much of this is in common with Green Party concerns, although they are overly fond of national government programming, but some may be persuadable.

Also, you could send them to re-education camps and make them read F.A. Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. OK, skip the camps, but recommend the book. He makes a compelling case that the kind of government planning and control they want is incompatible with the kind of liberty they want.

As has already been pointed out, many on the left simply aren't going to take kindly to Ron Paul's ambitions to dismantle the welfare and nanny state as we know it. Many just won't be persuaded. But some, I presume, may be like me - alarmed enough about the erosion of privacy and liberty to do some serious reconsidering of what kind of government they really want.
 
I think the way to a leftist's heart is through the issue of civil liberties.

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Ron Paul is the only candidate that can prove unequivocally his desire to restore our civil liberties.

Nothing a leftist hopes and strives for can be achieved if our basic liberties are erroded. And this is exactly the point we are at--the very foundation of our country is at stake.

You can also win them over by pointing out that Ron Paul is never going to lie to them. We know clearly where he stands and that he believes the words he speaks because his 30 year voting record backs it up. In an age of corruption, honesty is something the people crave.
 
Why are we even discussing this?

Many of the grassroots folks that boosted RP's support in the first place were the Anti-War left!
Its silly to use the neocon rhetoric, painting them with a broad brush making silly assertions like "they're horrified that the dept of education may go away".

Its all about the war!
 
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