West Virginia In State Of Emergency After Massive Oil Train Explosion

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Oil in river burning the next day.

West Virginia In State Of Emergency After Massive Oil Train Explosion

February 17, 2015 at 12:08 am Updated: February 17, 2015 at 9:07 am

At least 14 rail cars of crude oil from a train owned by CSX Corp. are on fire in West Virginia.
CREDIT: CBS News/Screenshot

Crude oil is pouring into a river that supplies drinking water and approximately 1,000 people have been evacuated from their homes due to an oil train derailment and explosion in southern West Virginia on Monday, according to media reports.
The train, owned by CSX Corp., was carrying more than 100 tankers of crude oil from the Bakken shale in North Dakota when it derailed at about 1:30 p.m., the L.A. Times reported. Officials estimated that approximately 14 of those tankers were involved in the derailment and subsequent fire, which as of 9 p.m. was still raging. Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin declared a state of emergency at around 5:40 p.m.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-with-fire-after-oil-train-derailed-in-w-va/





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What's going on with planes and trains?? Another big derailment today

 

[puppetmaster]

Warren Buffet has insurance no worries.

 

[invisible]

crude oil from the Bakken shale in North Dakota

What convenient timing! It's a relatively small loss to be written off, when weighed against how much some would benefit from obomba signing that pipeline legislation rather than vetoing it. Expect this to be used to pressure obomba into approving the pipeline, and the massive eminent domain that will come with it.

 

[donnay]

What convenient timing! It's a relatively small loss to be written off, when weighed against how much some would benefit from obomba signing that pipeline legislation rather than vetoing it. Expect this to be used to pressure obomba into approving the pipeline, and the massive eminent domain that will come with it.

Very good point.


Our infrastructure is crumbling as well.

 

[jbauer]

This gives bama an out. Said he'd veto it. Now he can sign it.

 

[invisible]

This gives bama an out. Said he'd veto it. Now he can sign it.

Exactly. The timing is just too convenient. They'll never happen to determine the cause of the wreck or explosion, and if they do, it'll be fabricated.

 

[osan]

OK, what the hell is this? These days, EVERY time some big issue arises in "government", it seems some seemingly** large disaster occurs that serves to push the issue one way or the other. We have this pipeline deal that's been passed and the IIC (Idiot In Chief) promises to nix it. The next thing we know, there is this. I will not say this was staged, but the thought is very compelling, given the timing.

When the hell was the last time a train filled with crude exploded? Never? Yeah, never that I can recall. Anyone?

 

[CPUd]

BREAKING- a sketch of the suspect has been released:

 

[acptulsa]

OK, what the hell is this? These days, EVERY time some big issue arises in "government", it seems some seemingly** large disaster occurs that serves to push the issue one way or the other. We have this pipeline deal that's been passed and the IIC (Idiot In Chief) promises to nix it. The next thing we know, there is this. I will not say this was staged, but the thought is very compelling, given the timing.

When the hell was the last time a train filled with crude exploded? Never? Yeah, never that I can recall. Anyone?

It does happen. To say this was staged is a stretch.

The question to ask is, when was the last time a derailment of a train full of petroleum got this much press? There was a train wreck here in town less than a year ago which destroyed so many new Kias they were stacking them up trackside. Literally. It wasn't just a derailment--it was a collision. Foul play was suspected and the railroad offered $100,000 for information leading to an arrest. No one heard about that outside of this corner of this state.

'Got a train wreck story. Petroleum. Big fire. No news here.'

'Lead with it.'

'Lead with it? It's just another train wreck!'

'We have seven seven sponsors that stand to make at least a billion dollars each if the Keystone deal goes through. We don't get paid for letting opportunities like this pass. Lead with the story.'

 

[PaulConventionWV]

OK, what the hell is this? These days, EVERY time some big issue arises in "government", it seems some seemingly** large disaster occurs that serves to push the issue one way or the other. We have this pipeline deal that's been passed and the IIC (Idiot In Chief) promises to nix it. The next thing we know, there is this. I will not say this was staged, but the thought is very compelling, given the timing.

When the hell was the last time a train filled with crude exploded? Never? Yeah, never that I can recall. Anyone?

Interesting.

I guess we'll find out soon enough when the bill comes to Obama's desk.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

BREAKING- a sketch of the suspect has been released:

Ben Stiller?

 

[69360]

It does happen. To say this was staged is a stretch.

The question to ask is, when was the last time a derailment of a train full of petroleum got this much press?

2 years ago. Lac-Megantic Quebec. It was a huge story here.

Same thing, tankers of oil derailed and burned half the town. 50 people died.

 

[Natural Citizen]

From 2006 to April 2014, there were 16 high-profile accidents involving “high-hazard” trains carrying crude or ethanol, according to the US National Transportation Safety Board. In all, 281 tank cars have derailed, spilling nearly 5 million gallons of crude or ethanol, all resulting in 48 fatalities

http://www.prairiebizmag.com/event/article/id/22751/


Within the last two years, there have been at least 11 major derailments in the US and Canada that involved trains carrying immense amounts of oil, according to a December 2014 report by the US Congressional Research Service.

Here is that report... https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43390.pdf


Recently...

One year ago, multiple spills consisting of thousands of gallons of coal-cleaning chemicals leaked into West Virginia’s Elk River, another tributary of the Kanawha River, leaving hundreds of thousands of people without running water for weeks.

In North Dakota, three millions of gallons of saltwater brine, a byproduct of hydraulic fracking, spilled in January from a ruptured pipeline near the Missouri River.

A line in West Virginia transporting ethane exploded, and 40,000 gallons of oil spilled into the Yellowstone River from a ruptured pipeline in Montana.

A natural gas pipeline exploded in Mississippi, and a second North Dakota incident set loose 20,000 gallons of brine.

There have been a few others as well. I think california just had a massive fracking contamination and the water got poisoned.



But, yes. Let's just go ahead and put a tar sands pipeline smack on top of the second largest aquifer in the world with this Keystone pipeline. The largest aquifer in the U.S. that supplies all of the surrounding states with water.

That's just absolutely freaking brilliant, alright.

But, hey...Canada wins. Right? Some powerful political doners who keep buying up land up there for the tar sands have a stake in Canada's oil fields win. Right?

 

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From 2006 to April 2014, there were 16 high-profile accidents involving “high-hazard” trains carrying crude or ethanol, according to the US National Transportation Safety Board. In all, 281 tank cars have derailed, spilling nearly 5 million gallons of crude or ethanol, all resulting in 48 fatalities
...

This one alone had more than 3 mil:

Train Carrying 3 Million Gallons of Crude Still Burning
ABC News - 13 minutes ago

 

[osan]

It does happen. To say this was staged is a stretch.

I am not so sure. Not saying it was staged, but were fact I would not be at all surprised.

The pipeline in question is a REALLY big deal. It would be the largest exercise of eminent domain in perhaps 80 years. ED is a major exercise of power and Theye like exercising power, in case you have not noticed. The pipeline also represents a huge amount of currency, which translates not just into a shit-ton of new yachts and private aircraft, but even more political power.

The motivation for causing such mayhem is, in fact, very high. Such mayhem is also very easy to get away with, especially if you are not concerned with covering up the fact that it was an act if malice. So long as nobody is caught, who cares how the cause of the event is perceived? Either way, it can be spun into a "pro-pipeline" argument.

Once again, I am not asserting that this was the case, but only that such a case is really not the stretch that you appear to think it to be.

I hire a demolition expert to plant 10# of C4, lensed for cutting and displacing on some unobserved section of track. He is then the victim of a terrible accident and all traceability is erased. The lensed charge cuts the rail and the displacing charge moves the rail out of place as the train is passing over it. There is your derailment, There are other easier and more subtle ways of getting the job done, as well, and that might make things look like an accident. This is not rocket surgery and where this much money and clout are involved, I put nothing past people.

 

[acptulsa]

Once again, I am not asserting that this was the case, but only that such a case is really not the stretch that you appear to think it to be.

I don't recall saying how much of a stretch I thought it was. I don't recall saying that it was a stretch of reality, rather than merely something likely to stretch the credulity of the typical observer. I don't recall you ever asking me if I believe the official fairy tale about 9/11/01, so I don't know how you could possibly have me all figured out in terms of what I think they are or are not capable of.

I hire a demolition expert to plant 10# of C4, lensed for cutting and displacing on some unobserved section of track. He is then the victim of a terrible accident and all traceability is erased. The lensed charge cuts the rail and the displacing charge moves the rail out of place as the train is passing over it. There is your derailment, There are other easier and more subtle ways of getting the job done, as well, and that might make things look like an accident. This is not rocket surgery and where this much money and clout are involved, I put nothing past people.

All railroad rolling stock rides exclusively on steel wheels firmly attached to solid steel axles. Arranging for one to complete a circuit when it arrives at a certain spot is child's play, and always has been. Why would you make it so complicated?

 

[KCIndy]

I must be missing something.

If this were LNG (Liquified Natural Gas) I could see the containers exploding in a derailment. Gasoline or high-grade alcohol might blow as well, especially if a vapor cloud formed first and then ignited.

But oil? CRUDE oil? Contrary to what's shown in the movies, it's damn hard to get that stuff to burn, let alone burn fast or explode. The only condition I'm aware of that would make crude oil burn would be a massive primary explosion of some sort. Derailed oil cars cracking open should really just cause one helluva gooey mess. There might be some fires if the oil finds something to "wick" off of, but....

I'm guessing we're getting a LOT less than the full story.



http://ktla.com/2015/02/17/train-de...sion-massive-fireball-in-west-virginia-video/

Train Derailment Leads to Explosion, Massive Fireball in West Virginia: Video

A train hauling crude oil derailed and exploded in West Virginia, displacing up to 1,000 residents and contaminating the local water supply.

At least 27 of the train’s more than 100 cars veered off the tracks, the West Virginia Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety said. And at least 15 of the derailed cars caught fire.

One home was destroyed, and one person was injured, agency spokesman Lawrence Messina said.

Complicating matters: Oil from the train spilled into the Kanawha River — a source of drinking water in Kanawha and Fayette counties. Even parts of the river caught fire amid the explosions, Messina said.

 

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I am not so sure. Not saying it was staged, but were fact I would not be at all surprised.

The pipeline in question is a REALLY big deal. It would be the largest exercise of eminent domain in perhaps 80 years. ED is a major exercise of power and Theye like exercising power, in case you have not noticed. The pipeline also represents a huge amount of currency, which translates not just into a shit-ton of new yachts and private aircraft, but even more political power.

The motivation for causing such mayhem is, in fact, very high. Such mayhem is also very easy to get away with, especially if you are not concerned with covering up the fact that it was an act if malice. So long as nobody is caught, who cares how the cause of the event is perceived? Either way, it can be spun into a "pro-pipeline" argument.

Once again, I am not asserting that this was the case, but only that such a case is really not the stretch that you appear to think it to be.

I hire a demolition expert to plant 10# of C4, lensed for cutting and displacing on some unobserved section of track. He is then the victim of a terrible accident and all traceability is erased. The lensed charge cuts the rail and the displacing charge moves the rail out of place as the train is passing over it. There is your derailment, There are other easier and more subtle ways of getting the job done, as well, and that might make things look like an accident. This is not rocket surgery and where this much money and clout are involved, I put nothing past people.

I don't feel it's a stretch at all, to say that this thing just might have been caused deliberately. The timing is sure awfully convenient. Yes, there have been a good amount of these rail disasters in recent years that have gone right along with the increase in using rail for transporting oil from fracking operations. But for it to happen, right now, at this precise time? That sure seems awfully coincidental. And as you say, there is certainly a huge motivation to make something like this happen. Money is a powerful motivator, and there are people who would make plenty of it from that pipeline. There are plenty of ways that such an event can be made to happen, and all of them are easy enough to cover up. All that has to happen is have the NTSB say "cause undetermined" or "worn track" or "axle and bearing failure", and it would be virtually impossible to prove any different, especially when they will collect all the evidence for their investigation. Remember that airplane that mysteriously blew up off the coast of Long Island sometime around 1995-6, and how the NTSB "investigated" that? It's also conceivable that two birds can be killed with one stone, and it can be blamed on IS, Assad, Iran, or some other handy scapegoat. Of course, other than the awfully convenient timing of this event, it's impossible to just say that this was deliberately caused - that would be jumping to a conclusion without any actual evidence. But given the timing of the event, and the fact that an excellent motive exists, I think that this doesn't pass the sniff test. Something about this stinks.

 

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It does happen. To say this was staged is a stretch.

The question to ask is, when was the last time a derailment of a train full of petroleum got this much press? There was a train wreck here in town less than a year ago which destroyed so many new Kias they were stacking them up trackside. Literally. It wasn't just a derailment--it was a collision. Foul play was suspected and the railroad offered $100,000 for information leading to an arrest. No one heard about that outside of this corner of this state.

'Got a train wreck story. Petroleum. Big fire. No news here.'

'Lead with it.'

'Lead with it? It's just another train wreck!'

'We have seven seven sponsors that stand to make at least a billion dollars each if the Keystone deal goes through. We don't get paid for letting opportunities like this pass. Lead with the story.'

Interesting questions.

On a side note, stumbled on this youtube link. Why is this news video featured on this channel? Another question, why is there a youtube channel allowed for ISIS?

[h=3]Adena Village-Boomer Train Fire | Train Derailment Causes ..[/h]www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqrogGpoB

1 day ago - Uploaded by ISIS ISIL 2015

 

[invisible]

On a side note, stumbled on this youtube link. Why is this news video featured on this channel? Another question, why is there a youtube channel allowed for ISIS?

Because they're about to get blamed for it, once the NTSB completes their sham "investigation". Sure seems like I called that one correctly in my previous post, doesn't it? Now of course the pressure will be turned up to build that pipeline, so that our nation's fracking industry can be safe from those evil and dangerous arabs.