We Will NOT Vote for Obama!

[RM918]

If Paul doesn't win, probably voting for Johnson. I'm with AF here. If the GOP wants to throw a fifth of the party under a bus, why should I reward them?

 

[abstrusezincate]

I'll take the flaming. If Paul doesn't win the GOP nod, there's a very good chance I'll vote for Obama. Why?

The way I see it, both parties are going to be wasting immense amounts of money on stupid projects we don't need. The difference is the Democrats will be more apt to waste it on projects here that might have some marginal impact, the Republicans abroad on unconstitutional wars. I'm not going to pretend the Dems have a better record about that, because they don't, but bellicose imperialism isn't something they enjoy either.

There will always be a party, in a democracy, believing that government needs to take care of the people. The Democrats are that party, represent what is a coherent world view based upon a certain understanding of human nature. It is not one most Paulites share, but that is another argument. While not agreeing with everything, I can accept this.

As for the Republicans, they are a party that claims to support limited government and does nothing to support it in fact. I worked as a GOP committee recruiter, have run for office, and had many conversations. I've met theocrats, opportunists, zealots, users, and a few good people searching for a party better than what they are getting. A Republican President not named Paul will inevitably lead us into a bloody conflict resulting in the loss of many American lives, increased risks of blowback related terrorism, and I'm not willing to accept that.

Obama is a disappointment on many levels. I did not vote for him in '08. But he's saner than the alternatives, and odds are, he'll get my vote with distaste. My biggest concerns with him are on civil liberties, but it heartens me to know most Democrats I know are upset about those things also, and I'm hopeful for improvements on that basis alone.

I respect those who vote third party. I agree more closely with a libertarian, though I'm not a libertarian on economics. But I'm not going to be a protest vote if this comes down to a two way race.

I don't believe the Republicans will ever change until they learn what they present is unacceptable, and making them lose is fine by me. The reset button has to be hit one way or the other. Romney would just prolong a system that is broken, so why not let things play out to their end?

I don't expect most people here to agree, but I've talked to enough people who like RP to know I'm not the only one who thinks this way, though I'm probably the only one who posts here with any frequency.

 

[pinkmandy]

William Kristol would vote for Obama if Paul won and so would Charles Krauthammer. Fox News is stacked with hosts and GOP commenters who would vote for Obama instead of Paul, so the mainstream neocons should be put on the defensive here not us.

Exactly.

We shouldn't be the ones on the defensive. I voted 3rd party last time. I didn't trust Obama's rhetoric and would not cast a vote for warmongering, anti-Constitution McCain. If Paul is not the nominee I will do the same in this next election. If they couldn't beat Obama w/McCain last time then how on earth do they expect to do it this time if they nominate another neocon and even more of us refuse to vote the party ticket? I really wonder if the avg republican voter realizes this? There is no way they can win without us.

 

[wowrevolution]

I'm voting for Ron Paul even if I have to write him in.

I am not throwing my vote away for who I think "will win" so I can feel like I was on the "winning team"
I am only supporting the candidate that "I support." Support the person, not the party. Individualism should be opposed to Collectivism and that includes endorsing any Party candidate.

Obama or Romney, they are both "spenders" and they both perpetuate the Goldman Sachs Oligarchy. Neither represent positive change.

 

[Athan]

Obama? Romney? **** no.

 

[Philadelphia76]

Held my nose and voted for Obama in 2008 only b/c I lived in the borderline "battleground" state of Pennsylvania and I desperately wanted to do my small part to make sure the Neo-Cons (particularly in McCain's FP circles) suffered electoral defeat. HATED voting for a riduculous tax, spend and print money liberal like Obama just to stop the Neo-Cons- but in that select circumstance- it had to be done IMHO. Had I been in virtually any other state I probably would have voted for Barr or written in Dr. Paul. I now live in South Carolina- which will go Republican no matter what. Therefore- if Dr. Paul is not on the ballot come November- I will likely vote Johnson (subject to any last minute endoresement of a candidate by Dr. Paul himself).

 

[priest_of_syrinx]

I've joked that I'd vote for Obama just to make sure we only have 4 more years before we get another chance in the Republican Party rather than 8, but I could never actually do it.

 

[r3volution]

obama signed NDAA , romney said he would have . nuff said . nobp