We will not pay: the Americans withholding their taxes to fight Trump

[TheTexan]

Schiff wasn't jailed for selling books -- he was convicted of evading his individual taxes and those of his corporation, filing false tax returns, and aiding and abetting the filing of false tax returns by others.

Tax evasion??!!!

What a terrible American !

 

[oyarde]

Tax evasion??!!!

What a terrible American !

Well , now that I am an old retired guy who has worked hard to ensure I will no longer need to pay ( I should be below the income limit for my age ) , I still get to vote and I will have time to make sure everyone else I know votes too.

 

[TheTexan]

I still get to vote and I will have time to make sure everyone else I know votes too.

+rep youre a great American

 

[dude58677]

Fake Sonny spends all his time reading fake rulings based on fake "laws" with intent to rip innocent people off. Sad!

 

[Weston White]

Not when he's selling bogus tax avoidance stuff that adversely affects people who rely on it not out of some sort of opposition to taxation but because they really believe the crap he's peddling is a legal way to avoid taxes.

Perhaps he did not have all of the answers, but he certainly had some of the answers--concerning a highly complex scheme, the federal income tax code. Also, he ended up giving away many of his works for free in protest of injunctions/prohibitions against him.

In any case he certainly did not deserve to rot away, bedridden in prison for any of this--a system of which you are an apparatchik.

Also, find yourself some damned respect, the man is dead for Christ's sake!

 

[Rudeman]

I agree. We aren't dealing with people like Dave Rubin from the Rubin report or Sam Harris. We are dealing more with the brat children and zombie army of Bill Kristol, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, and TYT. Secession of California and tax protesting have been the ONLY sensible and rational actions the left has collectively taken. Basically the accuracy of a broken clock. In general however, they are stark raving mad.

I look at it differently than you 2. The left is becoming so unhinged that they are turning away normal liberals like Dave Rubin. These nutjob progressives are self cannibalizing and all I can think of is good. Whenever there is a wedge issue use it to your political advantage.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Post #11 cracks me up.

I just knew the Trumpsters wouldn't support this.

I think it's great that people don't want to pay taxes. However, as you must know, these are the very same people who heralded Obama. So, it's not about principle. But, people pretending to be libertarians don't care about this fact.

 

[asurfaholic]

Except when the pendulum swings back to the left they'll be right back to advocating for theft because social contracts, muh roads, and it's the price we pay for living in a civilized society.

Peter Schiff's father died in prison over this crap. Literally millions of people are financially devastated after the IRS gets finished with them. But I am supposed to be happy because the snowflake tantrum du jour happens to coincide with my personal beliefs for a few brief moments in time?

Some of you buy happiness pretty cheaply, but I still cannot afford it.

Less concerned with trying to understand the different motives, and more concerned that this is the legitimate way to demonstrate displeasure with government actions.

Not going to lie and say the irony escaped me that this could well be a bunch of snowflake liberals who want every govt program expanded, but really the beauty is that the freedom idea is gaining some ground in people's minds.

Better than a riot in the streets.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Less concerned with trying to understand the different motives, and more concerned that this is the legitimate way to demonstrate displeasure with government actions.

Not going to lie and say the irony escaped me that this could well be a bunch of snowflake liberals who want every govt program expanded, but really the beauty is that the freedom idea is gaining some ground in people's minds.

Better than a riot in the streets.

Give me a break. It has nothing to do with freedom. These are drones following the playbook handed them. Do you not know all this is being orchestrated?

https://barackobama.com/
Click on Organizing for America at the bottom of the page.

 

[juleswin]

I am well aware of the charges leveled against him.

If you are aware of the charges leveled against him, then why did you saying he was thrown in jail for selling books? lots of people are free running around today who make speeches, write books about how taxes are unconstitutional and they are not all in jail. Judge Napolitano even says that tax is theft on TV and he is still free. . If the govt sent people in jail for spreading this info, none of these people would be free today.

Just because government convicts you and sends you to a death cage, does not mean the charges are, in fact, true or an accurate portrayal of your beliefs and actions.

But the charges of tax evasion leveled against him are true. He said it himself on the TV program where he appeared in. His problem is that unlike most people who evaded paying taxes, they were not bold, brash and boastful on TV confessing their crime. Your beliefs? why should it matter? If I believe that I did not assault you when I just hit you in the head for doing nothing. I doubt you care what my belief of the matter is.

I think I'll take Ron Paul's words over yours in this matter:

“Just recently, when we read about the death of Irwin Schiff, he was actually imprisoned and killed by our government because he spoke out about the unconstitutionality of the way taxes were being collected,” he said Wednesday on the Alex Jones Show. “It wasn’t that he was a violent person, he wasn’t for anarchy or anything else and I don’t think he ever said the statement that there should be no taxes either, but [simply] because he said what the government was doing was unconstitutional and the government told him ‘you’re not allowed to talk about that.'”

“[But] he did and [when] he was 77, they put him in jail for 14 years and literally I think killed him, you know because it was a death sentence, a life sentence and he didn’t [even] get his medical care, so that’s how ruthless the government is.”

http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-feds-killed-irwin-schiff-for-speaking-out/

Just because Ron Paul says something doesn't make it true. The man wasn't sent to a "death cage" by the govt because life itself is a death cage. The man was 87 yrs old with lung cancer, he did not have a good prospects of living a long life with that diagnosis. So the govt did not kill him, he died of lung cancer.

 

[Anti Federalist]

How do the kids say?

All taxation is theft.

Yes, they do say that.

Yes, it is.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Cuz I felt like it, Ed.

If you are aware of the charges leveled against him, then why did you saying he was thrown in jail for selling books? lots of people are free running around today who make speeches, write books about how taxes are unconstitutional and they are not all in jail. Judge Napolitano even says that tax is theft on TV and he is still free. . If the govt sent people in jail for spreading this info, none of these people would be free today.



But the charges of tax evasion leveled against him are true. He said it himself on the TV program where he appeared in. His problem is that unlike most people who evaded paying taxes, they were not bold, brash and boastful on TV confessing their crime. Your beliefs? why should it matter? If I believe that I did not assault you when I just hit you in the head for doing nothing. I doubt you care what my belief of the matter is.



Just because Ron Paul says something doesn't make it true. The man wasn't sent to a "death cage" by the govt because life itself is a death cage. The man was 87 yrs old with lung cancer, he did not have a good prospects of living a long life with that diagnosis. So the govt did not kill him, he died of lung cancer.

 

[juleswin]

Cuz I felt like it, Ed.

Gotcha, Ewnc.

 

[angelatc]

Not going to lie and say the irony escaped me that this could well be a bunch of snowflake liberals who want every govt program expanded, but really the beauty is that the freedom idea is gaining some ground in people's minds.

Better than a riot in the streets.

Well, I hope you're right. But history says you're not.

 

[angelatc]

Just because Ron Paul says something doesn't make it true. The man wasn't sent to a "death cage" by the govt because life itself is a death cage. The man was 87 yrs old with lung cancer, he did not have a good prospects of living a long life with that diagnosis. So the govt did not kill him, he died of lung cancer.

The simple point that I was making remains. He died in prison because he did not pay income taxes.

 

[juleswin]

The simple point that I was making remains. He died in prison because he did not pay income taxes.

Very true, but he was also 87 yrs old battling lung cancer. Also, I never argued against that point, he broke the law and was all up in the FEDs face about it. My issue was with the people who say he was imprisoned for writing a book.