We Were Robbed In LA!

[billyjoeallen]

The GOP has a platform, and it is a party... I totally sympathize with the RNC. Just imagine how Libertarians would feel if they woke up and their party was taken over by Marxists. That is just being a spoiler. If you don’t agree with the majority of the platform I recommend you not join the Republican Party.

More importantly a key mistake in this campaign has been the courting of non-GOP voters, it is the primary reason (next to Iraq) that we are not in the top 3 right now. Too many Marxists and other 3rd Party supporters has pinned the label of Fringe Candidate right on RP’s head.

If Ron Paul doesn’t win this election I wouldn’t be blaming Fox News or the GOP… that is for sure.

The GOP is the party for small government libertarians and conservatives. It was the Neoconservatives that hijacked the party and we are taking it back!

 

[goldstandard]

YES..

What exactly is and has happened. Give us the points by points and WHY HQ is suing them?

We need a list so that those who are emailing have a base for an argument/topic.

I think we cannot be more specific than the campaign press release at the moment because the LA GOP has not published all results and slows down the process of counting the provisional ballots (and these were RP supporters who voted according to GOP rules) until after Super Duper Tuesday.

Louisiana subforums:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=156

campaign press release:

January 26, 2008 11:49 am EST

Ron Paul Campaign Files Caucus Challenge with Louisiana GOP

Multiple errors in process leave caucus results unresolved

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Yesterday, the Ron Paul presidential campaign filed a letter with the Louisiana Republican Party to contest the credentials of delegates to the state convention.

Under state party rules, campaigns have 72 hours from the end of the caucus to file such a contest. This contest was filed in response to multiple problems with the caucus process.

“The initial failure of the Louisiana GOP to properly determine who was and wasn’t eligible to vote threw this entire process into disarray,” said Ron Paul campaign manager Lew Moore. “However, voter eligibility was just one of many irregularities with the caucus process. We are filing this contest to ensure that we can challenge the results if it appears that delegates were improperly selected.”

The Louisiana State GOP changed the rules at the eleventh hour to allow other candidates to file more delegates, even though there were plenty of delegates to compose full slates in each congressional district. At the time of the original January 10 deadline, Ron Paul had the largest number of delegates pledged to him. The party then changed the rules to give other candidates until January 12 to file more delegates.

In addition, due to mistakes by the Louisiana GOP, hundreds of voters were forced to file provisional ballots, including nearly 500 that could change the outcome of the election. According to the LA GOP, caucus locations relied on a voter list from November 1, 2007 or perhaps earlier despite the fact that under the caucus rules, voters need only have registered Republican before November 30, 2007.

There were even instances at the caucuses where state-certified Ron Paul delegates appearing on the ballot were forced to file a provisional ballot despite the fact they were pre-approved as delegates.

 

[HillbillyDan]

Originally Posted by fmontez View Post
The GOP has a platform, and it is a party... I totally sympathize with the RNC. Just imagine how Libertarians would feel if they woke up and their party was taken over by Marxists. That is just being a spoiler. If you don’t agree with the majority of the platform I recommend you not join the Republican Party.

More importantly a key mistake in this campaign has been the courting of non-GOP voters, it is the primary reason (next to Iraq) that we are not in the top 3 right now. Too many Marxists and other 3rd Party supporters has pinned the label of Fringe Candidate right on RP’s head.

I disagree, Dr. Paul is the single most conservative candidate. The others have no clue what the GOP is supposed to be about, ie: limited government, and non-interventionist foreign policy. But, hey, I'm preaching to the choir here...

 

[LibertyEagle]

FMONTEZ, have you even read that GOP platform that you have in your sig? Because it resembles nothing about traditional conservatism whatsoever. Rather it looks like a treatise for big government neo-conservatism.

Tell me, have you noticed how the Republican Party has shrunk over the last years? Do you know why? It is because most of the traditional conservatives (Goldwater-Republicans) LEFT THE PARTY. You see, traditional conservatism has nothing to do with warmongering or preemptive strikes against countries that have not attacked us, nor pose an eminent threat. Nor does traditional conservatism have anything whatsoever to do with illegal searches and seizures, unconstitutional wiretapping of American citizens, stripping habeas corpus from American citizens, or to make this easier, just about anything George W. Bush has done.

As a life-long Republican, I am ASHAMED of the Republican party, but more than that, I am ashamed of those Republicans who have covered their eyes and their ears, while our Constitution has been stomped all over and totally disregarded by some of their own.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but you appear to have much more allegiance to the Republican Party than you do your country.

 

[j6p]

tell the troll to go back where he came from. He sounds like a f-ing neo con. For the troll. The gop is getting smaller and smaller.

 

[billyjoeallen]

Stay focused! We need to fight the GOP to get the legitimate votes of primary caucus goers recognized. We beat them at there own game, so they moved the goalposts.

Expanding the rolls of the GOP with pro Paul newcomers is good for the party, the country, and our candidate.

January 26, 2008 11:49 am EST

Ron Paul Campaign Files Caucus Challenge with Louisiana GOP

Multiple errors in process leave caucus results unresolved

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Yesterday, the Ron Paul presidential campaign filed a letter with the Louisiana Republican Party to contest the credentials of delegates to the state convention.

Under state party rules, campaigns have 72 hours from the end of the caucus to file such a contest. This contest was filed in response to multiple problems with the caucus process.

“The initial failure of the Louisiana GOP to properly determine who was and wasn’t eligible to vote threw this entire process into disarray,” said Ron Paul campaign manager Lew Moore. “However, voter eligibility was just one of many irregularities with the caucus process. We are filing this contest to ensure that we can challenge the results if it appears that delegates were improperly selected.”

The Louisiana State GOP changed the rules at the eleventh hour to allow other candidates to file more delegates, even though there were plenty of delegates to compose full slates in each congressional district. At the time of the original January 10 deadline, Ron Paul had the largest number of delegates pledged to him. The party then changed the rules to give other candidates until January 12 to file more delegates.

In addition, due to mistakes by the Louisiana GOP, hundreds of voters were forced to file provisional ballots, including nearly 500 that could change the outcome of the election. According to the LA GOP, caucus locations relied on a voter list from November 1, 2007 or perhaps earlier despite the fact that under the caucus rules, voters need only have registered Republican before November 30, 2007.

There were even instances at the caucuses where state-certified Ron Paul delegates appearing on the ballot were forced to file a provisional ballot despite the fact they were pre-approved as delegates.

 

[fmontez]

Country over party troll.

I don't give one damn about "the party". The time has come to be good Americans, not good Republicans. In fact with the GOP fighting us every inch on everything I will gladly bank roll an independent run for Dr. Paul and destroy the corrupt GOP.

Expose these cockroaches!

Just imagine if you courted your mate with this type of drival.

"Hi Honey, boy you are an ugly fat bloated piece of crap. Can we go upstairs and have sex?"

 

[LibertyEagle]

More importantly a key mistake in this campaign has been the courting of non-GOP voters, it is the primary reason (next to Iraq) that we are not in the top 3 right now. Too many Marxists and other 3rd Party supporters has pinned the label of Fringe Candidate right on RP’s head.

Do you realize that the GOP has been overtaken at the top by ex-Trotskyite neo-conservatives? Let that sink in really good. Then, listen to this:

NEO-CONNED

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4156174553630131591

 

[deedles]

Just imagine if you courted your mate with this type of drival.

"Hi Honey, boy you are an ugly fat bloated piece of crap. Can we go upstairs and have sex?"

This clown is now on the ignore list. I highly advise everyone else to do the same. He's having fun and wasting your energy.

Where is menthol patch?

 

[deedles]

http://www.felixmontez.com/

Probably is studying us because he thinks we're addicted.

 

[pcosmar]

This clown is now on the ignore list. I highly advise everyone else to do the same. He's having fun and wasting your energy.

Where is menthol patch?

I have no one on ignore. I like to keep an eye on them.
I have called SHILL some time ago, and that is just being proven.
I had tried to work with the local GOP early on, and it became apparent that I was banging my head against a wall. It felt so good when I stopped.
I hope they will come around, and we can reform the party. If not then run them over and utterly crush them.
I want my Country back. The GOP is in the way.

 

[Runnerguy]

FMONTEZ, have you even read that GOP platform that you have in your sig? Because it resembles nothing about traditional conservatism whatsoever. Rather it looks like a treatise for big government neo-conservatism.

Tell me, have you noticed how the Republican Party has shrunk over the last years? Do you know why? It is because most of the traditional conservatives (Goldwater-Republicans) LEFT THE PARTY. You see, traditional conservatism has nothing to do with warmongering or preemptive strikes against countries that have not attacked us, nor pose an eminent threat. Nor does traditional conservatism have anything whatsoever to do with illegal searches and seizures, unconstitutional wiretapping of American citizens, stripping habeas corpus from American citizens, or to make this easier, just about anything George W. Bush has done.

As a life-long Republican, I am ASHAMED of the Republican party, but more than that, I am ashamed of those Republicans who have covered their eyes and their ears, while our Constitution has been stomped all over and totally disregarded by some of their own.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but you appear to have much more allegiance to the Republican Party than you do your country.

+1776

 

[Revolution9]

(1) I am glad Ron Paul is not connected to the NH recount, because I knew no matter how it turned out the Truthers would not accept the tally.

(2) I think National was right to file a challenge in LA, just to keep the option open, but I doubt it will go any farther.

(3) LA does not appear to have any fraud at all... rules change (The RNC can do that, they could limit voters to people dressed like Pink Elephants if they wanted too.) You adapt and move on.

(4) Crying Wolf Effect: belly whining and crying fraud hurts RP more than any actual vote fraud ever could. We cry fraud every day on here, so much so that NO one will ever believe us if there is real fraud at some junction.

Well..that is a load of useless tripe that could only issue from an obsequious bootlicker, whose bent knee and bonded chains serve him as a baby's pacifier. Fortunately your cries of wolf about crying wolf are simply crying wolf. Seems you lack the essential human trait of wanting fair play to occur and prefer to bed down with your fellow sociopatrhs and describe our behaviour as vulnerable. Typical gambit for a psychopathic mindset or one inculcated into the egophreniacal field of the boobocracy whose ponerologocally esablished rule and regime reeks of psychopathy.


Enjoy your trolling whilst I enjoying putting my size ten motorcycle boot up yer ass. You spent alot of time in my PM yesterday. I KNOW who you are.

HTH
Randy

 

[Revolution9]

Just imagine if you courted your mate with this type of drival.

"Hi Honey, boy you are an ugly fat bloated piece of crap. Can we go upstairs and have sex?"

Beats them saying bend over and take it and give me all your money to kill brown people with or I will hurt you badly.

HTH
Randy

 

[billyjoeallen]

January 26, 2008 11:49 am EST

Ron Paul Campaign Files Caucus Challenge with Louisiana GOP

Multiple errors in process leave caucus results unresolved

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – Yesterday, the Ron Paul presidential campaign filed a letter with the Louisiana Republican Party to contest the credentials of delegates to the state convention.

Under state party rules, campaigns have 72 hours from the end of the caucus to file such a contest. This contest was filed in response to multiple problems with the caucus process.

“The initial failure of the Louisiana GOP to properly determine who was and wasn’t eligible to vote threw this entire process into disarray,” said Ron Paul campaign manager Lew Moore. “However, voter eligibility was just one of many irregularities with the caucus process. We are filing this contest to ensure that we can challenge the results if it appears that delegates were improperly selected.”

The Louisiana State GOP changed the rules at the eleventh hour to allow other candidates to file more delegates, even though there were plenty of delegates to compose full slates in each congressional district. At the time of the original January 10 deadline, Ron Paul had the largest number of delegates pledged to him. The party then changed the rules to give other candidates until January 12 to file more delegates.

In addition, due to mistakes by the Louisiana GOP, hundreds of voters were forced to file provisional ballots, including nearly 500 that could change the outcome of the election. According to the LA GOP, caucus locations relied on a voter list from November 1, 2007 or perhaps earlier despite the fact that under the caucus rules, voters need only have registered Republican before November 30, 2007.

There were even instances at the caucuses where state-certified Ron Paul delegates appearing on the ballot were forced to file a provisional ballot despite the fact they were pre-approved as delegates.

 

[fmontez]

Well..that is a load of useless tripe that could only issue from an obsequious bootlicker, whose bent knee and bonded chains serve him as a baby's pacifier. Fortunately your cries of wolf about crying wolf are simply crying wolf. Seems you lack the essential human trait of wanting fair play to occur and prefer to bed down with your fellow sociopatrhs and describe our behaviour as vulnerable. Typical gambit for a psychopathic mindset or one inculcated into the egophreniacal field of the boobocracy whose ponerologocally esablished rule and regime reeks of psychopathy.


Enjoy your trolling whilst I enjoying putting my size ten motorcycle boot up yer ass. You spent alot of time in my PM yesterday. I KNOW who you are.

HTH
Randy

LOL, I too got a sense of you yesterday.. I respect some of your opinions... but you are a Truther (even if you don't believe it.. hard core.) I would say more than half the posts on here contain some level of Truther talk (as measured by mainsteam voters.)

 

[jdmetz]

(3) LA does not appear to have any fraud at all... rules change (The RNC can do that, they could limit voters to people dressed like Pink Elephants if they wanted too.) You adapt and move on.

The fraud is that the GOP specified Nov 30th for the Republican registration deadline. The applications have the application date on them, but the GOP is using the processing date to see if people are qualified or not. Many people who applied by the deadline are being excluded due to this.

(4) Crying Wolf Effect: belly whining and crying fraud hurts RP more than any actual vote fraud ever could. We cry fraud every day on here, so much so that NO one will ever believe us if there is real fraud at some junction.

I agree with this point, though.

 

[jdmetz]

The GOP has a platform, and it is a party... I totally sympathize with the RNC. Just imagine how Libertarians would feel if they woke up and their party was taken over by Marxists. That is just being a spoiler. If you don’t agree with the majority of the platform I recommend you not join the Republican Party.

Just imagine how those marxists would feel if libertarians tried to take the party back from them. You're suggesting the libertarians should just leave the party to them because the marxists are in the majority? That is essentially what has happened (replace 'libertarians' with 'Republicans' and 'marxists' with 'neo-cons').

 

[davidt!]

What about a class action law suit? Is that possible in a circumstance like this?

 

[Lord Xar]

LOL, I too got a sense of you yesterday.. I respect some of your opinions... but you are a Truther (even if you don't believe it.. hard core.) I would say more than half the posts on here contain some level of Truther talk (as measured by mainsteam voters.)

hah.. Montez, please dude. You are sounding very ignorant and rather desperate. I love these neo-con types. KILL KILL KILL the bad evil islofascistnaziterrorists and protect our 'friends' - ABOVE ALL ELSE!! You are not a true republican, nor are you a believer in the Constitution. Even if you don't believe it, hard core.