"We Tortured Some Folks": CIA Lied To Congress, Senate Torture Report Reveals

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...a-lied-congress-senate-torture-report-reveals
In what we are confident everyone will find to be absolutely shocking news, moments ago the Senate Torture report was released. The key finding, hold on to your hats, is that the CIA "misled" Congress. As for the timing of the release, which takes place at the same time as Jonathan Gruber (Ph.D) is being grilled in the House, it is hardly a coincidence that Obama does everything in his power to deflect attention to what took place under the Bush administration, commenting that "torture techniques did significant damage to America’s standing” in the world. So what did the droning of thousands of innocent civilians do to the same "standing"?

The drilldown from Bloomberg:

  • CIA provided inaccurate information about effectiveness and scope of interrogations of suspected terrorists, and mismanaged a program that was far more brutal than represented, according to 6-year investigation by Democrats on Senate Intelligence Cmte.
  • Interrogation techniques weren’t effective, didn’t produce key information that led to killing of Osama bin Laden and were significantly different from procedures authorized by Justice Dept, report says
  • CIA provided inaccurate information to White House, Congress, DOJ, CIA Inspector General, media and the public
  • “This document examines the CIA’s secret overseas detention of at least 119 individuals and the use of coercive interrogation techniques - in some cases amounting to torture,” Senate Intelligence Cmte Chairman Dianne Feinstein says in statement
  • Agency lost track of 119 detainees and at least 26 didn’t meet standards for being held, according to executive summary of 6,000-page report
  • In fall of 2002, detainee died of hypothermia while shackled to concrete floor; another detainee was held for 17 days in the dark without anybody knowing he was there
  • Interrogation of terrorism suspect Abu Zubaydah, who was waterboarded at least 83 times, was more brutal than previously known; at one point, he was put in a 1 1/2 meter box and knocked unconscious during waterboarding session, while water and bubbles poured from his mouth
  • Other detainees with broken legs and feet were inappropriately forced to sit in stress positions
  • No evidence CIA briefed former President George W. Bush about harsh interrogations, though former Vice President Dick Cheney attended meetings where tactics were discussed
  • Report details actions taken on terrorism suspects during George W. Bush administration; Bush called report “way off base” in interview with CNN
  • CIA Torture Report Set for Senate Release Over Bush Objections
  • Full Senate Intelligence Cmte wasn’t briefed on techniques until September 2006
  • While some members, including Feinstein and GOP Sen. John McCain, raised objections, CIA informed DOJ Office of Legal Counsel in a classified setting that no senators objected

Obama chimes in:

  • The report documents a troubling program involving enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects,” President Obama says in e-mailed statement on release of CIA torture report.
  • Report “reinforces my long-held view that these harsh methods were not only inconsistent with our values as nation, they did not serve our broader counterterrorism efforts or our national security interests”
  • Says techniques did “significant damage to America’s standing” in the world

Odd: no comments by the Droner in Chief what droning thousands of innocent women and children around the world does to America's "standing" in the world.
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Glenn Greenwald Previews The Senate Torture Report
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-09/glenn-greenwald-previews-senate-torture-report

Grigg flashback: The Triumph of the Torture State
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/04/triumph-of-torture-state.html

Yet there it is: In defending the atrocities committed by the Bush administration, the Republican-centered conservative movement effectively endorsed the proposition that it is entirely proper for the government to torture terrorist suspects -- including, presumably, "rightwing extremists" deemed a domestic terror threat by the incumbent government.

This irony is reinforced by the fact that the Bush/Cheney wing of the conservative movement champions the use of torture techniques that were devised by Soviet and Chinese Communists for use against American military personnel, as well as one particular method -- controlled drowning, also known as "waterboarding" -- that was favored by Cambodia's hyper-murderous Khmer Rouge.
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Ah, yes, of course: When crimes are committed by governments, they are magically transformed into "policy." So when a Republican administration institutionalizes the use of torture techniques that were prosecuted as war crimes following WWII, we're to believe that those crimes were sanitized through the redemptive power of the executive branch.
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The torture regime created under Bush and Cheney implicated the political leadership in both branches of the Ruling Party. Its infection has deeply penetrated the tissue of the Homeland Security system. It has created what could become a self-sustaining corps of professional torturers whose depraved talents will not be employed only against foreigners, but will very quickly become "policy" in dealing with certain troublesome elements among the citizenry as well. That corps, incidentally, includes a large number of medical professionals who -- in a collectivist perversion of their Hippocratic obligations, collaborated in the torture of detainees -- including, God forgive us, children who were seized in order to gain blackmail leverage over a parent.
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But owing to the triumph of totalitarian "conservatism" during the Bush era, it's all but inevitable that, in the near future, innocent Americans who fall into the hands of their own government will be subject to Soviet-style "enhanced interrogation" techniques. It turns out that the United States did indeed "overtake" the Soviets after all.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/01/oops-obama-admits-us-tortured-people/

Well, President Barack Obama shocked everyone on Capitol Hill when he admitted that the CIA had indeed tortured enemies during our time in Afghanistan and Iraq. The official position is not to admit to “torture” and Obama simply forgot he was not supposed to use the T-WORD. That will allow others to now sue the US government. Oops – sorry about that. It was just a slip of the tongue.

Obama was referring to a report in which it was carefully crafted to not use the T-WORD – TORTURE. This will now shift the issue from spying on Americans to – gee, they tortured people? Come on. Torture is routine. Water-boarding is torture. You do not have to whip someone to “coerce” them into spilling the beans. Why torture does not work is rather simple. The person will say anything to stop the process. How do you distinguish between a lie and the truth under torture?

Let us not forget the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. Why do these things to people if there is no intention to compel information from them? Let’s keep this real. Even domestically, the Justice Department mentally tortures prisoners all the time to force people to plead. About 98% of all people charged plead because of coercion. Courts dismiss claims of coercion claiming reducing one’s time is irrelevant. I would like to observe these judges in a cell and see how they respond.

I saw the government arrest people and routinely threaten that their children would be put up for adoption if they did not plead. I was thrown in cells so cold you could see your breath and then into cells so hot underwear was too much. None of these things they admit were torture, which is standard operating procedure. They throw you into solitary confinement where so many people commit suicide – but of course this form of mental torture is not torture. It is merely a secluded vacation trip with all your meals included.


It is time the USA practices what it preaches.
 
When crimes are committed by governments, they are magically transformed into "policy."

the magic kingdom:

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When has the CIA ever told the truth? This agency have been the instigators for most of the worlds unrest. :mad:
 
Notice this is the outcome of the Senate Democratic Intelligence Committee, getting this report out just as they leave majority control. Would the incoming Republican Senators have released this report, once they took over? Or would the GOP have buried it, and continued to cover the crimes of the Bush era?
 
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I'd be interested in which foreign country's governments was outsourced torture assignments and if there are any extensive data on that. I know Syria is one of them.
 
Torture Report: Obama "Consistently Supported" Declassification but His Administration Hid 9,400 Documents from Senate
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/09/torture-report-obama-consistently-suppor

Regarding the release today of the Senate Torture Report (full report embedded in Nick Gillespie's post below) President Obama issued a statement in which he praised America and its CIA for its wonderful virtues, assured us he is against torture and that he, good guy that he is, stopped it while continuing to be fully dedicated to crushing America's foes across the globe.

He also state that "I have consistently supported the declassification of today’s report. No nation is perfect. But one of the strengths that makes America exceptional is our willingness to openly confront our past, face our imperfections...."

Yes footnote 2 on page 9 of the report tells us:

The Committee did not have access to approximately 9,400 CIA documents related to the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program that were withheld by the White House pending a determination and claim of executiveprivilege. The Committee requested access to these documents over several years, including in writing on January3, 2013, May 22, 2013, and December 19,2013. The Committee received no response from the White House.

Face those imperfections, President Obama.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/09/senate-torture-report-full-text-and-firs

Dick Cheney, who acknowledged he hadn't read the report, has already written it off as "a bunch of hooey," a banal epithet to characterize what reads like something approaching moral monstrosity.

Whether the report sparks violence in the Middle East and beyond—I'm betting that our actual foreign policy over even just the past few years is the likelier culprit—it is a terrible but necessary examination of what the United States has allowed to happen under the name of making the world safe from terrorism.

Most accounts have the Senate Republicans dissenting from the report's conclusions. By all means, bring on the debate over what actually was going on in an agency that has never been particularly respectful of either the Constitution or respect for any limitations placed upon it. We may well learn things that shed new light on some of the report's darkest passages.

But until that happens, it seems as if the Senate report is one more reason to deeply, deeply question the government when it tells you that it is being straight even with itself and asks that your surrender any aspect of your freedom or skepticism in the name of safety.

500-Page Torture Report Released. Come for the Forced Enemas. Stay for the Incompetent Leadership.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/09/500-page-torture-report-released-come-fo
 
From the Intercept:

Media Torture Advocates

Col. Morris Davis, the retired Air Force Colonel who served as the Chief Prosecutor of the Military Commissions at Guantánamo until 2007 when he lost his job for criticizing the tribunal, notes that MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough this morning explicitly defended the torture techniques, arguing: “whatever it takes to keep America safe.” Aside from being the essence of the authoritarian mindset – security über alle – it’s quite striking that major television personalities in the U.S. explicitly justify the use of torture. Is there any other western country where that’s true? After all, The Washington Post hired former Bush speechwriter Marc Theissen as a columnist after he wrote an entire book justifying torture (when used by the U.S.).

The U.S. has led the way in destroying the ostensible western taboo surrounding torture, which is why official torturers go free and torture advocates are featured in almost every major media outlet.
 
More Effects of Statism and Cultural Decay
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/more-effects-of-statism-and-cultural-decay/

But the neanderthals Republicans are complaining how “unconscionable” the release of the CIA torture information is, NOT the torture itself of innocents. That is how Republicans (and Democrats, too) think (if you call it “thinking”). C’mon, Republicans, are you really that gullible?
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What’s even more shameful, regarding various non-government-employed contractors who have been aiding and abetting these crimes, are that such contractors included medical doctors, nurses and psychologists, like a bunch of Doctors Mengele, in my view. And such “unethical” (ya think?) practices were continuing as of this November 2013 article.

Psychopaths, sadists and sickos. And these are the people who will be turned against USSA’s dissenters and Regime critics when societal collapse occurs and martial law is inflicted on us and Obama makes full use of the NDAA.

To all the bloodthirsty and sadistic dumbasses mad about it coming out rather than it being done, I hope they enjoy it when the fascist state sets its sites on them.

But owing to the triumph of totalitarian "conservatism" during the Bush era, it's all but inevitable that, in the near future, innocent Americans who fall into the hands of their own government will be subject to Soviet-style "enhanced interrogation" techniques. It turns out that the United States did indeed "overtake" the Soviets after all.
 
Hey, it's coo', it's coo'. That was in the past. We're all good now. We Don't Do That anymore. #WDDT @WDsquaredT. All's good.
 
This is so sickening. What kind of fucking animals can do this shit??

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence today released a blistering report on CIA interrogation practices -- claiming the "brutal" techniques the agency used on detainees in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks “were not effective.”

A separate study released today by committee Republicans disputes some of the conclusions of that report, released by committee Democrats -- but does not defend the use of controversial "enhanced interrogation" techniques.

Interrogators Admitted to Sexual Assault

According the the report, "numerous CIA interrogators and other CIA personnel associated with the program had either suspected or documented personal and professional problems that raised questions about their judgment and CIA employment. This group of officers included individuals who, among other issues, had engaged in inappropriate detainee interrogations, had workplace anger management issues, and had reportedly admitted to sexual assault."

Round-the-Clock EIT

Detainee Abu Zubaydah was placed "in complete isolation for 47 days," then subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques on a near 24-hour-per-day basis." He “cried, begged, pleaded, and whimpered,” but denied having any information.

The CIA reportedly instructed personnel that his interrogation should take "precedence" over medical care, which eventually led to the "deterioration" of a bullet wound Zubaydah sustained during his capture.

Stuffed in a Coffin-Like Box

Zubaydah spent a total of 266 hours in a "large confinement box" that looked like a "coffin." He spent an additional 29 hours in an even smaller box, which was 21 inches wide, 2.5 feet deep, and 2.5 feet tall.

CIA interrogators reportedly told Zubaydah "that the only way he would leave the facility was in the coffin-shaped confinement box."

Waterboarding Continues

Even after the interrogation team told CIA headquarters that it was “highly unlikely” he had the information they were looking for, interrogators continued to waterboard Abu Zubaydah, who “coughed, vomited, and had involuntary spasms of the torso and extremities’” during the procedure. At one point, he "became completely unresponsive, with bubbles rising through his open, full mouth."

CIA Personnel ‘Choking Up’ During Waterboarding

The waterboarding eventually induced "involuntary leg, chest and arm spasms." According to CIA records, “it seems the collective opinion that we should not go much further.” Several on the team were “profoundly affected,” “some to the point of tears and choking up.”

Rectual Infusion of 'Pureed' Humus, Pasta, Nuts and Raisins

Several detainees, including Zubaydah, Marwan al-Jabbur, and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, underwent "rectal rehydration" or "rectal fluid resuscitation" -- and detainee Majid Klian's “lunch tray," made up of hummus, pasta with sauce, raisins and nuts, was "pureed" and rectally infused.

According to CIA medical officers, rectal infusions were partially used as a behavior control: "While IV infusion is safe and effective," an officer noted, "we were impressed with the ancillary effectiveness of rectal infusion."


Intimidation with a Power Drill

Another detainee, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was blindfolded before an interrogator placed a pistol near his head and operated a cordless power drill near his body.

‘Let’s Roll With the New Guy’

Less than two hours after the capture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, self-professed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, in March 2003, an CIA interrogation chief sent an email to CIA headquarters requesting permission to “press [Sheikh Mohammed] for threat info right away.” The subject line: “Let’s roll with the new guy.”

Medical Officer: Waterboarding is ‘Basically…Drownings’

During waterboarding sessions, Sheikh Mohammed ingested significant amounts of water. According to CIA records, his abdomen “was somewhat distended and he expressed water when the abdomen was pressed.”

“In the new technique,” a medical officer wrote, “we are basically doing a series of near drownings.”

Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded at least 183 times.


Transforming Interrogations into ‘Battles of Will’

Sheikh Mohammed was also subject to abdominal and facial slaps, standing sleep deprivation, stress positions, nudity, water dousing. And although he hadn’t determined it was medically necessary, an interrogation chief also ordered rectal hydration.

The procedure, the chief said, illustrated the interrogators’ “total control over the detainee” – but an on-site psychologist later concluded that sessions would have been more successful had interrogators avoided “confrontations that allow [Sheikh Mohammed] to transform the interrogation into battles of will with their interrogator.”

'Mr. Rogers' Persona'

The interrogation team eventually concluded the enhanced techniques had caused Sheikh Mohammed to "clam up," prompting interrogators to adopt a "softer Mr. Rogers' persona."
In what the interrogation team deemed the "best session held to date," a "more cooperative" Sheikh Mohammad revealed information about an individual he described as the protector of his children. The information turned out to be fabricated, resulting in the capture and detention of two innocent people.

Family Photo

When interrogators concluded there would be “no further movement” in Sheikh Mohammed’s interrogations, detention site personnel hung a photograph of his sons in his cell to “[heighten] his imagination concerning where they are, who has them, [and] what is in store for them.”

Interrogators Threatened Families

CIA officers also threatened at least three detainees with harm to their families. Those threats included doing harm to the children of a detainee, threats to sexually abuse the mother of a detainee and to "cut" a detainee's mother's throat.

'They Cowered'

Detainees at a detention facility referred to in the report as "COBALT" were kept in complete darkness -- paired with constant noise.
Detainees "'literally looked like a dog that had been kenneled,'" one CIA interrogator said. "When the doors to their cells were opened, 'they cowered.'"


Naked Detainees Doused With Ice Water

Without approval from CIA headquarters, interrogates doused COBALT detainees with ice water. They were hosed down while shackled in a standing position or held down naked on the floor.

One detainee, Gul Rahman, naked except for a sweatshirt, died of hypothermia while chained to a wall at COBALT in 2002.


Diapers, Sleep Deprivation

Mohamed Rahim, the last CIA detainee in the Detention and Interrogation Program, was kept awake for 138 1/2 hours -- almost six days.

Diapered and and shackled in a standing position, Rahim “reiterated several times during the session that he would make up information if interrogators pressured him, and that he was at the complete mercy of the interrogators.”

26 Individuals Improperly Detained

Twenty-six of the CIA's 119 detainees "did not meet the ... standard for detention," according to the report.
One of these improperly detained individuals, Abu Hudhaifa, endured 66 hours of standing sleep deprivation and ice water baths "before being released because the CIA discovered he was likely not the person he was believed to be." A second "intellectually challenged" individual was detained and used "as leverage" against a family member. Two more spent 24 hours chained in the standing sleep deprivation position, until CIA Headquarters "confirmed that the detainees were former CIA sources," who had previously reached out to the CIA to try to share intelligence.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-torture-report-stunning-findings/story?id=27473273
 
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