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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...a-lied-congress-senate-torture-report-reveals
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...a-lied-congress-senate-torture-report-reveals
In what we are confident everyone will find to be absolutely shocking news, moments ago the Senate Torture report was released. The key finding, hold on to your hats, is that the CIA "misled" Congress. As for the timing of the release, which takes place at the same time as Jonathan Gruber (Ph.D) is being grilled in the House, it is hardly a coincidence that Obama does everything in his power to deflect attention to what took place under the Bush administration, commenting that "torture techniques did significant damage to America’s standing” in the world. So what did the droning of thousands of innocent civilians do to the same "standing"?
The drilldown from Bloomberg:
- CIA provided inaccurate information about effectiveness and scope of interrogations of suspected terrorists, and mismanaged a program that was far more brutal than represented, according to 6-year investigation by Democrats on Senate Intelligence Cmte.
- Interrogation techniques weren’t effective, didn’t produce key information that led to killing of Osama bin Laden and were significantly different from procedures authorized by Justice Dept, report says
- CIA provided inaccurate information to White House, Congress, DOJ, CIA Inspector General, media and the public
- “This document examines the CIA’s secret overseas detention of at least 119 individuals and the use of coercive interrogation techniques - in some cases amounting to torture,” Senate Intelligence Cmte Chairman Dianne Feinstein says in statement
- Agency lost track of 119 detainees and at least 26 didn’t meet standards for being held, according to executive summary of 6,000-page report
- In fall of 2002, detainee died of hypothermia while shackled to concrete floor; another detainee was held for 17 days in the dark without anybody knowing he was there
- Interrogation of terrorism suspect Abu Zubaydah, who was waterboarded at least 83 times, was more brutal than previously known; at one point, he was put in a 1 1/2 meter box and knocked unconscious during waterboarding session, while water and bubbles poured from his mouth
- Other detainees with broken legs and feet were inappropriately forced to sit in stress positions
- No evidence CIA briefed former President George W. Bush about harsh interrogations, though former Vice President Dick Cheney attended meetings where tactics were discussed
- Report details actions taken on terrorism suspects during George W. Bush administration; Bush called report “way off base” in interview with CNN
- CIA Torture Report Set for Senate Release Over Bush Objections
- Full Senate Intelligence Cmte wasn’t briefed on techniques until September 2006
- While some members, including Feinstein and GOP Sen. John McCain, raised objections, CIA informed DOJ Office of Legal Counsel in a classified setting that no senators objected
Obama chimes in:
- The report documents a troubling program involving enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorism suspects,” President Obama says in e-mailed statement on release of CIA torture report.
- Report “reinforces my long-held view that these harsh methods were not only inconsistent with our values as nation, they did not serve our broader counterterrorism efforts or our national security interests”
- Says techniques did “significant damage to America’s standing” in the world
Odd: no comments by the Droner in Chief what droning thousands of innocent women and children around the world does to America's "standing" in the world.
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Glenn Greenwald Previews The Senate Torture Report
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-09/glenn-greenwald-previews-senate-torture-report
Grigg flashback: The Triumph of the Torture State
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/04/triumph-of-torture-state.html
Yet there it is: In defending the atrocities committed by the Bush administration, the Republican-centered conservative movement effectively endorsed the proposition that it is entirely proper for the government to torture terrorist suspects -- including, presumably, "rightwing extremists" deemed a domestic terror threat by the incumbent government.
This irony is reinforced by the fact that the Bush/Cheney wing of the conservative movement champions the use of torture techniques that were devised by Soviet and Chinese Communists for use against American military personnel, as well as one particular method -- controlled drowning, also known as "waterboarding" -- that was favored by Cambodia's hyper-murderous Khmer Rouge.
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Ah, yes, of course: When crimes are committed by governments, they are magically transformed into "policy." So when a Republican administration institutionalizes the use of torture techniques that were prosecuted as war crimes following WWII, we're to believe that those crimes were sanitized through the redemptive power of the executive branch.
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The torture regime created under Bush and Cheney implicated the political leadership in both branches of the Ruling Party. Its infection has deeply penetrated the tissue of the Homeland Security system. It has created what could become a self-sustaining corps of professional torturers whose depraved talents will not be employed only against foreigners, but will very quickly become "policy" in dealing with certain troublesome elements among the citizenry as well. That corps, incidentally, includes a large number of medical professionals who -- in a collectivist perversion of their Hippocratic obligations, collaborated in the torture of detainees -- including, God forgive us, children who were seized in order to gain blackmail leverage over a parent.
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But owing to the triumph of totalitarian "conservatism" during the Bush era, it's all but inevitable that, in the near future, innocent Americans who fall into the hands of their own government will be subject to Soviet-style "enhanced interrogation" techniques. It turns out that the United States did indeed "overtake" the Soviets after all.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/12/01/oops-obama-admits-us-tortured-people/
Well, President Barack Obama shocked everyone on Capitol Hill when he admitted that the CIA had indeed tortured enemies during our time in Afghanistan and Iraq. The official position is not to admit to “torture” and Obama simply forgot he was not supposed to use the T-WORD. That will allow others to now sue the US government. Oops – sorry about that. It was just a slip of the tongue.
Obama was referring to a report in which it was carefully crafted to not use the T-WORD – TORTURE. This will now shift the issue from spying on Americans to – gee, they tortured people? Come on. Torture is routine. Water-boarding is torture. You do not have to whip someone to “coerce” them into spilling the beans. Why torture does not work is rather simple. The person will say anything to stop the process. How do you distinguish between a lie and the truth under torture?
Let us not forget the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse. Why do these things to people if there is no intention to compel information from them? Let’s keep this real. Even domestically, the Justice Department mentally tortures prisoners all the time to force people to plead. About 98% of all people charged plead because of coercion. Courts dismiss claims of coercion claiming reducing one’s time is irrelevant. I would like to observe these judges in a cell and see how they respond.
I saw the government arrest people and routinely threaten that their children would be put up for adoption if they did not plead. I was thrown in cells so cold you could see your breath and then into cells so hot underwear was too much. None of these things they admit were torture, which is standard operating procedure. They throw you into solitary confinement where so many people commit suicide – but of course this form of mental torture is not torture. It is merely a secluded vacation trip with all your meals included.
It is time the USA practices what it preaches.