We Should Gladly Hop on the Cain Train

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I do not get some of the agony around here about Herman Cain. His win at the Florida straw poll is one of the best things that has happened to the Ron Paul campaign. Why?

Because his forthcoming surge directly brings down Rick Perry. Many of those folks, who really yearned for an anti-Romney, are becoming quickly disenchanted by Perry. Where do they go for the next "electable conservative?" Why, to this new Cain bump, of course!

In fact, if there has to be an "anti-Romney" for now who isn't Ron Paul, Cain is the best choice for our campaign's ensured success. That is because Cain, like Perry was, has not been truly vetted. His bump will expose his extreme rhetoric and ignorance on significant policy matters. Like Perry, he will be doomed to fall.

At that point, whenever it comes, Ron Paul becomes the last bastion for the plurality of the primary electorate who does not want Romney nominated.

Ron Paul will get some of the disaffected Perry supporters. But putting the remainder of disaffected Perry support in Cain's pizza oven for fifteen minutes at four hundred and fifty degrees will make them appreciate our guy all the more. In the meantime, we will have edged up further, to fifteen percent nationally, and perhaps twenty in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Folks, the best is surely yet to come. We must not lose heart that our rise is taking time. Ron Paul is a man whose time has come.
 
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Herman has votes to steal from Romney, I believe. I doubt Herman will erode any of Paul support. We had a Cain bump in the past, and then it faded. I agree with using this bump to our advantage to shake up the race.
 
An interesting theory, but I don't see Cain imploding like Rick Perry did. Here's why:

1. Unlike Perry who has a horrible record which came to light (Gardisal, in state tuition for illegals, tax raiser, ex Democrat etc), Cain has no legislative blunders that can be used against him.

2. Cain has protective pigmentation. Santorum/Bachman/Romney wouldn't DARE to beat down on Cain like they did to Perry.

3. "Black Dialect" aside, Cain is a much better speaker than fumbling bumbling Perry. He's a talk radio host! The more time Cain gets to speak, the stronger he will get.

4. Republicans want to win and they know that Obama will play the Race Card. The idea of throwing a black man at Obama to neutralize the Race Card is going to be hard for many to resist.



I have a bad feeling that this Cain character can really take off now, especially since his recent visit to Israel where he declared: "If you mess with Israel you mess with the USA."
 
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Cain will not hold up because he isn't knowledgeable. I like him, I really do. But he has blunders, which will only increase should he really be a front-runner. He didn't know what "right of return" meant.
 
Although Cain is a great orator, his ignorance will shine through once again, especially when it comes to foreign policy. He can only play the "I'll speak with my advisers" card for so long. I can only hope that there will come a time during one of the debates when a candidate is allowed to ask another candidate a question and we'll have a repeat of McCain fumbling an answer to Paul's question pertaining to government oversight (I believe that's what the topic was).

We should be seeing gems like this real soon so Paul better take advantage and expose Cain like he did Perry:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ns-is-okay-but-not-assassinating-them/239400/
 
I don't mind at all Cain winning FL, this helps Ron Paul.
Cain is also an idiot, that also helps Ron Paul in the strategic play of things.
 
Yeah the more you split the establishment vote, the eaisier it will be for Ron to win. The last thing we want is to lose with 35% each and we have 30%.
 
I almost thought this thread was going to be about voting for Cain…. As I see no heresy here you can continue on with your business.
 
Cain has his bounce before, and he fell. Before this straw poll victory he was the only candidate in the debates getting less time then Ron. No reason to assume he'll maintain a bounce this time around, especially because he likely won't raise enough to compete with the big guys.
 
An interesting theory, but I don't see Cain imploding like Rick Perry did. Here's why:

1. Unlike Perry who has a horrible record which came to light (Gardisal, in state tuition for illegals, tax raiser, ex Democrat etc), Cain has no legislative blunders that can be used against him.

2. Cain has protective pigmentation. Santorum/Bachman/Romney wouldn't DARE to beat down on Cain like they did to Perry.

3. "Black Dialect" aside, Cain is a much better speaker than fumbling bumbling Perry. He's a talk radio host! The more time Cain gets to speak, the stronger he will get.

4. Republicans want to win and they know that Obama will play the Race Card. The idea of throwing a black man at Obama to neutralize the Race Card is going to be hard for many to resist.



I have a bad feeling that this Cain character can really take off now, especially since his recent visit to Israel where he declared: "If you mess with Israel you mess with the USA."

I don't think people are that racist either way. I think the fact that Cain supported TARP and switched his views multiple times as people criticized his positions will ultimately return him to lower numbers. My concern is that he will distract people long enough for yet another white knight to jump in (so called.) Everytime they do, a segment assume they are fantastic and run to follow whomever it is over the cliff.
 
Cain just isn't as bad as Perry.

Leaving any sort of guessing aside about how each one of these guy is harder for Ron Paul to beat, Perry is just the worst of them all, and just on that basis alone, we should be attacking Perry.
 
You guys should look at his facebook page to get a sense of what his campaign is up to. They are fooling their followers by claiming he is a victim of the media, yet in the next update they post a huge schedule of TV interviews. It almost feels like his supporters are trying to replicate our movement, but the scary thing is I think they genuinely believe what they are saying. There is huge hype right now and his followers aren't very concerned about the issues.

No need to worry about him. It is an enthusiasm bump. An artificial media bump. Those "small donations" and "grassroots support" will die down along with his polling numbers in time.

In the mean time, don't be alarmed by a significant bump in the polls. No need to be positive about it either. We want this to be a 2 man race ASAP imo.
 
i find this forthcoming revival of cain to be amusing. it's like the establishment is trying to double-dip with him now that perry is crumbling. every time a candidate rises and then tanks, a little bit of the support goes to ron paul. we will benefit each time the pot gets stirred.
 
I do not get some of the agony around here about Herman Cain. His win at the Florida straw poll is one of the best things that has happened to the Ron Paul campaign. Why?

Because his forthcoming surge directly brings down Rick Perry. Many of those folks, who really yearned for an anti-Romney, are becoming quickly disenchanted by Perry. Where do they go for the next "electable conservative?" Why, to this new Cain bump, of course!

In fact, if there has to be an "anti-Romney" for now who isn't Ron Paul, Cain is the best choice for our campaign's ensured success. That is because Cain, like Perry was, has not been truly vetted. His bump will expose his extreme rhetoric and ignorance on significant policy matters. Like Perry, he will be doomed to fall.

At that point, whenever it comes, Ron Paul becomes the last bastion for the plurality of the primary electorate who does not want Romney nominated.

Ron Paul will get some of the disaffected Perry supporters. But putting the remainder of disaffected Perry support in Cain's pizza oven for fifteen minutes at four hundred and fifty degrees will make them appreciate our guy all the more. In the meantime, we will have edged up further, to fifteen percent nationally, and perhaps twenty in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Folks, the best is surely yet to come. We must not lose heart that our rise is taking time. Ron Paul is a man whose time has come.

I agree!

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My concern is that he will distract people long enough for yet another white knight to jump in (so called.) Everytime they do, a segment assume they are fantastic and run to follow whomever it is over the cliff.

Yeah, we keep trying that one (follow the next whomever)... how's that working out for us? ;)

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Just heard that Cain has a book coming out in early October with a title like HERMAN CAIN:MY JOURNEY TO THE WHITE HOUSE....Wow, THAT was fast!
 
But putting the remainder of disaffected Perry support in Cain's pizza oven for fifteen minutes at four hundred and fifty degrees will make them appreciate our guy all the more

oh man, thanks for a good laugh on this fine morning
 
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