we should do a full page ad in NY Times advertising Boston Tea Party II

[kylejack]

Lord Xar is on board with this...we should use his PAC....thats how I set up The foundinf fathers ad in NH...through Americans United for Liberty...


we really need to set up a teleconference or something to get this straight...

we still need a better website ...

That all sounds good to me, as long as it doesn't end up with lies like that veterans page fiasco.

 

[TruckinMike]

$100 In the Mail!

Oh yeah, where do I send it?

TruckinMike

 

[kylejack]

This isn't political activity. this is free speech.

We're not selling anything.. if you read my first proposal the entire page would have been white, with plain black text that says:

"THE BEAUTY OF NOT BEING SOLD ANYTHING."

Hardly an endorsement! Last of all, I've already PAID FOR THE AD. I'm not raising money for Political activity. I am raising money so that I don't go into bankruptcy due to my political advocacy.. completely legal, according to my attorney. Please understand... this ad will run, even if no one donates anything to the cause at all. If nobody else gave a penny... that ad still runs.

It's not illegal to DONATE to something like what you're talking about, btw... only to be the one raising it. My attorney assures me, I'm in the right here.

I'll ask a second time since you didn't answer. Who are you? How can I send money when I don't even know who I'm dealing with? You could be any old crook.

Are you R. Drees?

 

[fcofer]

I'd like to contribute to this effort. I'd like to do so without sending to some random paypal address of a poster who registered within the past few days.

You are right about this. I suppose I overstepped the bounds of prudence by donating already. However, I think that we should give the guy the benefit of the doubt and let him know of our enthusiasm and gratitude for his idea, although it would be wise to get some more assurances before people plop a lot of cash down.

You understand the law, but you didn't understand my post. Thoughtbombing wants to do this WITHOUT a PAC, and spending 60K on advertising without a PAC is illegal.

Touche. :o I didn't realize that he didn't have a PAC. However, I bet that he's still on safe legal ground by asking for personal donations to cover his costs rather than as a way to raise money for advocacy. Plus, 1st Amendment > McCain-Feingold. At any rate, the official campaign is not involved at all. If the guy has had legal advice and is willing to go for it, so much the better if it turns into a huge Constitutional rights controversy.

 

[thoughtbombing]

EDIT: With a PAC might be best, come to find out.

 

[kylejack]

K, thanks. I edited.

 

[Stealth4]

Shouldnt we be 100% focused on promoting the Nov 11th - 1 million right now?

And focus on the teaparty starting Monday?

I see way to much about the teaparty and almost nothing of promoting the 11th which is important.

 

[thoughtbombing]

fcofer, thanks for the support. You got mail.

I've spent the last 8 hours or so sending Thank You Emails out. My hands hurt

Stealth, I'm maxed out, or I'd donate. I post the November11th link everywhere I post my own... post the Teaparty07 link right in between them... Check the RonPaul myspace page... it's like EVERY COMMENT on there

 

[meowmixeater]

um. I set up a paypal thingy to donate. Yay or nay? http://www.ronpaulinthepaper.com

 

[syborius]

yes

I think one of the other great things about this would be all the press coverage that says:

"They did what?!"
"They took out a full page ad in the NY Times?!"

The media would be floored that a grass roots campaign could not only raise the money, but also be organized enough to pull it off.

Then you get the original benefit of having more people donate on the 15/16th.

hear hear!

 

[ronpaulitician]

The 16th isn't going to make $100 million and spending $100,000 on advertising a date to donate is a total waste of money. I apologize for offending anyone with these truths.

I thought the fifth might barely break the $1 million mark. We pulled in more than $4 million and generated a ton of "free" publicity.

If we spend $60,000 on an ad that will be read by more than a million people, it would only take about 600 of those one million people to sign up at teaparty07.com and donate money on the 16th to make it worth it.

Heck, even if nobody signs up, I imagine the publicity the ad will generate will be worth its weight in gold.

 

[thoughtbombing]

um. I set up a paypal thingy to donate. Yay or nay? http://www.ronpaulinthepaper.com

That'd be great if it wouldn't be like 600 bucks to transfer the money to another account

[email protected] is at $14,590 and counting.

SPAM the thoughtbombing.org domain on Youtube, etc.

 

[thoughtbombing]

I thought the fifth might barely break the $1 million mark. We pulled in more than $4 million and generated a ton of "free" publicity.

If we spend $60,000 on an ad that will be read by more than a million people, it would only take about 600 of those one million people to sign up at teaparty07.com and donate money on the 16th to make it worth it.

Heck, even if nobody signs up, I imagine the publicity the ad will generate will be worth its weight in gold.

Don't forget, this one ONE ad, coming BEFORE the BOMB.

1. THOUGHT BOMB
2. MONEY BOMB
3. THOUGHT BOMB

Coordinated media effort by a grass roots(READ: FREE MARKET!!!) campaign. Because we're declaring war on the war on *OF* terror.

We don't have to be afraid anymore. That's our message. STAND UP, AMERICA!

The day following the NY Times ad, I'm planning another one for the Wall Street Journal.... "NO NEW TAXES. NO OLD TAXES EITHER. RonPaul2008.com"

Considering the standing ovation of applause that Paul got during the Bernanke hearings yesterday, that message will go down REAL well in the WSJ.

 

[ronpaulitician]

Shouldnt we be 100% focused on promoting the Nov 11th - 1 million right now?

And focus on the teaparty starting Monday?

I think that if we want to spend $60k on a NY Times ad, the clock is already ticking.

 

[Energy]

That'd be great if it wouldn't be like 600 bucks to transfer the money to another account

[email protected] is at $14,590 and counting.

SPAM the thoughtbombing.org domain on Youtube, etc.

I'm impressed that you're getting so much in donations already in just 2 days! How are you advertising the site? I'm puzzled that the homepage doesn't even ASK for a donation; just a Donation button.. not to mention it can look like a "fly-by-night" site to some people.

 

[ronpaulitician]

PS I still think it'd be great to have the ad be an exact copy of the teaparty07.com page.

 

[fcofer]

fcofer, thanks for the support. You got mail.

I've spent the last 8 hours or so sending Thank You Emails out. My hands hurt

Thoughtbombing, I just have to say that your initiative floors me. I can't believe that this idea went from dream to reality in 24 hours.

I think what you should do is let the other website guys (teaparty07.com, ronpaulinthepaper, etc.) get access to your page and clean it up, unify it with the teaparty theme, and attach a chip-in meter. Donations will come faster this way.

You have taken a big risk for the cause, and I admire that. If it looks like the goal is not going to be reached, I will have more money to give and so will others. Even if I thought the idea was stupid I would donate. I'm confident that there is no way we Ron Paul supporters are going to leave you in the lurch on this one. The teaparty is going to be huge.

On the substantive issues, I'd like to note that I agree with max that the ad should run a few days to a week before the 16th, to give a chance for secondary media effects. As for the ad itself, I really like the one that was presented in the beginning of this thread. However, you can count on my support no matter what's decided.

EDITED: Just a note, though. Until we get confirmation from some other people on the forum -- i.e., access to the website, etc., I advise no-one else to donate for the sake of prudence!

 

[constituent]

real question is can we raise that much money? If so good idea

real answer: yes.

what an ad like this would do is get people who aren't interested in donating or necessarily even voting for RP to watch as the day progresses. It will also force all of the media outlets to cover it live...

as people watch it (the thermometer) progress they will get excited about it, and are then much more likely/primed to donate (just to see their name come up if nothing else), even if it's only five, ten bucks...

but when you consider 2 mil. potential readers, plus everyone watching CSPAN, and all sorts of other individuals out there listening to radio, tv, whatever...

yea, i think if this happened we could expect upwards of 12-15.

the number one issue people have, the thing that causes them to dismiss even the man's name itself is, "he can't win anyway." literally millions of people out there would be gung ho, but for that attitude. this would prove that not only can he do it, but more importantly we (and that includes them) can.

that's the unique advantage of the RP campaign is that even if you don't like the guy you still have to love that we're getting the establishment's goat (that is, if you were young once too ;} ). most people have ten bucks to throw at that alone, regardless of the cause.

 

[meowmixeater]

ok. im confused. What should it say on the site as to how to donate?

 

[JoshLowry]

That'd be great if it wouldn't be like 600 bucks to transfer the money to another account

[email protected] is at $14,590 and counting.

SPAM the thoughtbombing.org domain on Youtube, etc.

Sorry, but hold up for just a second.

I don't know who you are, you need someone to vouch for you. Lord Xar has a PAC that has been used in the past.

You don't have $14,590 in donations already. Do you? Unless that is money you are contributing out of your pocket? I would imagine you would understand the need for a bit of clarity before everyone jumps in on this.