We need to start a movement to Expel certain states from the union by Constitutional Amendment

[Swordsmyth]

No, but to remove a state you still need two thirds of the states to agree. In addition to a majority of the citizens of that state. Either way.

Says who?

 

[PAF]

Please sign and spread.

I’d much rather “sign a petition” to End Common Core / FedDeptEd.

If trump does one single thing to MAGA, this be it. Otherwise it don’t matter immigrants or natural born.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I’d much rather “sign a petition” to End Common Core / FedDeptEd.

If trump does one single thing to MAGA, this be it. Otherwise it don’t matter immigrants or natural born.

You can't do both?

 

[PAF]

You can't do both?

I don’t see any mileage gained by that in today’s climate. I’ll ponder it, but education has to change first and foremost to rid the indoctrination camps. IMO it’s far more severe a problem than a few thousand immigrants coming in, these are innocent young minds nation-wide the government is totally wrecking and destroying.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don’t see any mileage gained by that in today’s climate. I’ll ponder it, but education has to change first and foremost to rid the indoctrination camps. IMO it’s far more severe a problem than a few thousand immigrants coming in, these are innocent young minds nation-wide the government is totally wrecking and destroying.

Why are you talking about immigration?
The petition is to expel New York from the union for gross violations of Human and Constitutional rights.

 

[PAF]

Why are you talking about immigration?
The petition is to expel New York from the union for gross violations of Human and Constitutional rights.

Yes I understand. But the "crisis", because "they" are invading and taking over our way of life.

I think education is the way to go for ALL people, so that no matter what state one lives in, Rights can be protected by the Individual People, not some legislature who wrote random stuff down on a piece of paper.

I mean seriously, Swordsmyth, anybody who owns a home, business or restaurant knows that that is a gross mis-management of valuable paper, everybody knows it is supposed to be used as Toilet Paper.

For example, this is where I was, boots on the ground, a couple of weeks ago. I also used that time to talk to some folks about Natural Rights, the NAP and Free Market Principles (as opposed to "fair" market). I'm not sure if anybody captured me on video this time, I'll check around on youtube when I get the chance.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Yes I understand. But the "crisis", because "they" are invading and taking over our way of life.

I think education is the way to go for ALL people, so that no matter what state one lives in, Rights can be protected by the Individual People, not some legislature who wrote random stuff down on a piece of paper.

I mean seriously, Swordsmyth, anybody who owns a home, business or restaurant knows that that is a gross mis-management of valuable paper, everybody knows it is supposed to be used as Toilet Paper.

For example, this is where I was, boots on the ground, a couple of weeks ago. I also used that time to talk to some folks about Natural Rights, the NAP and Free Market Principles (as opposed to "fair" market). I'm not sure if anybody captured me on video this time, I'll check around on youtube when I get the chance.

Education is fine but while you are educating people who don't believe in liberty the rest of us need a place to live with people who believe in liberty, if you succeed that's great but if you fail there needs to be a place where people actually have liberty.

 

[PAF]

Education is fine but while you are educating people who don't believe in liberty the rest of us need a place to live with people who believe in liberty, if you succeed that's great but if you fail there needs to be a place where people actually have liberty.

Your way, you will eventually reduce liberty, and areas enough, so that one would be forced to live inside of a shoe-box, still screaming for government to save you, and have me pay for it.

Thanks, but no. I will continue my path. It is a long one, but every now and then, we are able to get another onboard.

In order to promote principles, one must stand by them. Don't you agree?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Your way, you will eventually reduce liberty, and areas enough, so that one would be forced to live inside of a shoe-box, still screaming for government to save you, and have me pay for it.

Thanks, but no. I will continue my path. It is a long one, but every now and then, we are able to get another onboard.

In order to promote principles, one must stand by them. Don't you agree?

Your way nobody will ever live in any liberty, you will never convert the whole world and unless you do there will never be any liberty for anyone.

I have principles and they say that we should create as much liberty as we can for as many people as we can and that means we have to have our own area where liberty actually exists.

 

[PAF]

Your way nobody will ever live in any liberty, you will never convert the whole world and unless you do there will never be any liberty for anyone.

I have principles and they say that we should create as much liberty as we can for as many people as we can and that means we have to have our own area where liberty actually exists.

Utopia does not exist.

There is conversation on another TDS forum that after trump builds his great wall, they want to urge him to build another wall along the US/Canada border, and then at the Atlantic/Pacific oceans to emulate Israel and their Gaza barrier.

No, I do not want to live in a shoe-box, even if it's sturdy.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Utopia does not exist.

There is conversation on another TDS forum that after trump builds his great wall, they want to urge him to build another wall along the US/Canada border, and then at the Atlantic/Pacific oceans to emulate Israel and their Gaza barrier.

No, I do not want to live in a shoe-box, even if it's sturdy.

Utopia doesn't exist but it is still possible to have your own territory with more liberty than the rest of the world, history is full of examples.

YOU are the one chasing Utopia, you want to achieve the impossible of converting the whole world and you want to condemn all of us to live with the lowest common denominator until you do.

 

[PAF]

Utopia doesn't exist but it is still possible to have your own territory with more liberty than the rest of the world, history is full of examples.

YOU are the one chasing Utopia, you want to achieve the impossible of converting the whole world and you want to condemn all of us to live with the lowest common denominator until you do.

Buy property, like I did. Put up a fence, like I did. Buy guns, like I did.

Instead of blowing money on 2 border walls, 2 Gaza barriers, more gasoline to find entry/exit points, more government military guards, more drones and police-state equipment -- save your money, invest in home/land improvements, and enjoy getting out in the world. There is so much beauty and adventure if you only look.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Buy property, like I did. Put up a fence, like I did. Buy guns, like I did.

Instead of blowing money on 2 border walls, 2 Gaza barriers, more gasoline to find entry/exit points, more government military guards, more drones and police-state equipment -- save your money, invest in home/land improvements, and enjoy getting out in the world. There is so much beauty and adventure if you only look.

The commies will come and take it all away from you, history and current conditions are full of examples, like it or not groups are necessary to secure liberty and group territory is necessary to secure liberty.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Best case scenario: all 50 states get expelled from the Union.

 

[oyarde]

Doing this would be the end of Rand's career.

Rand still has a bright future with many years left of being a senator.

Let's not ruin that by asking him to do something that might make a difference.

He could be Chief of Bowling Green

 

[Swordsmyth]

Originally Posted by Swordsmyth


We might not need a Constitutional Amendment, by the way.

No, but to remove a state you still need two thirds of the states to agree. In addition to a majority of the citizens of that state. Either way.

Says who?

Still waiting for an answer zip...........................

 

[idiom]

If you guys haven't read Adjustment Day by Chuck Palahniuk, you are missing out. The West coast gets ejected along with every gay person from the USA. The South gets ejected with all the blacks. The Straight whites get the rest. Its from the dude who wrote Fight Club.