"We don't want ANYBODY in charge!"- Peter Schiff

[Conza88]

Anarchy, non-archy, and anarcho-capitalism are all the same thing.

Anarchy just means a lack of rulers. Anarcho-capitalism distinguishes us from the anarcho-communists, which I don't quite understand.

Yeah, you don't understand. Which isn't surprising.

Did you even read the article?

Anarchy FTFL. Why the fck would I call myself, and represent what I stand for - by using the label of socialist scum? Who riot and destroy property?

It ain't the same champ. Cus if it was, I wouldn't have a problem using it.

Why the hell don't we Libertarians use the word "LIBERAL"... to represent ourselves?

!!! Yeah. After all we used to BE Liberals!

Yep - that'd be fcken stupid. As would the suggestion that anarchy is the same as anarcho-capitalism.

Try again.

 

[newbitech]

Then what do you want government for?

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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

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[MGreen]

A society with a government can't be a completely free economy, as some services would be monopolized by the government. Not that it would therefore be a poor society, but some of us believe it wouldn't be as prosperous as it could be.

 

[UnReconstructed]

i cant use itunes for ringtones, i can listen to them on itunes but thats not something that just sit around and play.

lol

once i made that one i just put it on the phone via usb... feel to take if you want it. i think you can dl from imeem

 

[RevolutionSD]

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And who are these virtuous people that are supposed to secure these rights?

 

[idiom]

You secure your own rights at the end of a gun. Al;l transactions are to take place face to face with weapons levelled at each others heads.

Because there isn't any force going on.

 

[powerofreason]

You secure your own rights at the end of a gun. Al;l transactions are to take place face to face with weapons levelled at each others heads.

Because there isn't any force going on.

wtf?

 

[idiom]

Well the proposition is that if we removed any for of agreement between two people, then the world would be fine and dandy and everybody would be wealthy and happy. Or free to die on their own terms at least.

 

[powerofreason]

Well the proposition is that if we removed any for of agreement between two people, then the world would be fine and dandy and everybody would be wealthy and happy. Or free to die on their own terms at least.

Uh, not at all. Just that the government remove its monopoly over services such as contract protection and security services, road management, etc. Then private individuals motivated by profit and a desire to please the customer take over and compete with others for business.

 

[powerofreason]

Yea thats right, go hide when you're faced with the truth but don't actually change your mind. That would be too traumatic for your miniature brain.

 

[idiom]

Uh, not at all. Just that the government remove its monopoly over services such as contract protection and security services, road management, etc. Then private individuals motivated by profit and a desire to please the customer take over and compete with others for business.

And those transactions would form a government. Officals are free to enact such an open system now, yet they don't.

Somehow magically, in an anarchic system humans will change and stopp abusing each other, or clustering into collectives of abuse?

Any agreement between two people is a form of government. If you want no government then you want no agreements between people.

 

[RevolutionSD]

And those transactions would form a government. Officals are free to enact such an open system now, yet they don't.

Somehow magically, in an anarchic system humans will change and stopp abusing each other, or clustering into collectives of abuse?

Any agreement between two people is a form of government. If you want no government then you want no agreements between people.

This makes absolutely no sense at all.

You're forgetting a huge difference: anarchism is a voluntary society, while government is force.

I run a business. My agreements with my partners and vendors are voluntary, and have nothing to do with a "form of government". This is an agreement we entered into by choice. With government, there is no choice, only force backed by a gun.