We DID WIN Washington!!

[literatim]

Dudes, you're being very undudelike. I can understand the crap we heard in some states, where people get on this board and say, "I heard from my cousin in Des Moines that Ron Paul took 50 delegates" and then the results show Paul gets 7%, causing folks to be apprehensive about this. But this is not one of those cases. Right now- even if we get zero uncommitteds- we have gotten over 20% of the delegates in a state. Can you list any other states where we got near that amount?

We did get an unusually high portion of delegates in Iowa. This is just how it is with caucus states. Ron Paul supporters are unusual in their tenacity and are well informed. They actually volunteer to be delegates and stick around for the delegation vote (Iowa, Nevada). Other supporters pick up and leave after the straw poll (this doesn't include Washington as their caucus is a bit different) thinking that is all they have to do. This is why there are reports from all over Nevada of Ron Paul being 2nd or 3rd in the straw poll, but taking the majority of the delegates. In some cases they took all the delegates in multiple precincts simply because no one on the enemy's side wanted to be one.

Why he sent that e-mail out yesterday is beyond me. He should have had polling that indicated he had strong support here and gone balls to the wall to get a solid win that could be reported to the press- right now a lot of the news sites are saying things like McCain in for Bumpy Ride or shit like that because of what happened in Kansas and Louisiana. Imagine if we clearly won Washington? McCain would not have beent he annointed one and they'd been giving us more cred.

The thing is, AP/CNN are using primary absentee ballots for their 'caucus results', they aren't even using the sign in sheets!

 

[morerocklesstalk]

Dudes, you're being very undudelike. I can understand the crap we heard in some states, where people get on this board and say, "I heard from my cousin in Des Moines that Ron Paul took 50 delegates" and then the results show Paul gets 7%, causing folks to be apprehensive about this. But this is not one of those cases. Right now- even if we get zero uncommitteds- we have gotten over 20% of the delegates in a state. Can you list any other states where we got near that amount?

Why he sent that e-mail out yesterday is beyond me. He should have had polling that indicated he had strong support here and gone balls to the wall to get a solid win that could be reported to the press- right now a lot of the news sites are saying things like McCain in for Bumpy Ride or shit like that because of what happened in Kansas and Louisiana. Imagine if we clearly won Washington? McCain would not have beent he annointed one and they'd been giving us more cred.

I hope I'm not bumming you out. I'm very impressed with the turnout. I am just a perfectionist when it comes to things I care about.

Just want to make sure everyone that was voted a delegate comes. Its takes money and time so I'm sure other canidates less devoted followers won't show.

 

[tomveil]

Yeah, those guys are trolls.

It's cool

 

[affa]

a simple question not really deserving of its own thread - is a delegate responsible for all travel expenses, including getting to the national convention?

 

[literatim]

a simple question not really deserving of its own thread - is a delegate responsible for all travel expenses, including getting to the national convention?

I am sure if someone becomes a national delegate that he could get funded by grassroots. I know many Meetups were organizing funds for delegates. No word from the campaign really since no national delegates have even been elected yet. You are better off asking the campaign itself.

 

[Hook]

We did get an unusually high portion of delegates in Iowa. This is just how it is with caucus states. Ron Paul supporters are unusual in their tenacity and are well informed. They actually volunteer to be delegates and stick around for the delegation vote (Iowa, Nevada). Other supporters pick up and leave after the straw poll (this doesn't include Washington as their caucus is a bit different) thinking that is all they have to do. This is why there are reports from all over Nevada of Ron Paul being 2nd or 3rd in the straw poll, but taking the majority of the delegates. In some cases they took all the delegates in multiple precincts simply because no one on the enemy's side wanted to be one.



The thing is, AP/CNN are using primary absentee ballots for their 'caucus results', they aren't even using the sign in sheets!

Actually, I don't think that is correct. That comes from that 911Cartoon guy. If they were using primary ballots, there wouldn't be an "uncommitted" category on the results, since that only makes sense in the context of a caucus.

 

[tomveil]

a simple question not really deserving of its own thread - is a delegate responsible for all travel expenses, including getting to the national convention?

Yes, they are responsible for it.

Our grassroots has made it clear: anybody who wants to go will be funded.

 

[affa]

Yes, they are responsible for it.

Our grassroots has made it clear: anybody who wants to go will be funded.

in that case, can someone in the know mosey over to the oregon forum and answer the questions people (including myself) are asking? They can be found in the top thread (last post). it's been sitting there since the 8th.

 

[tomveil]

in that case, can someone in the know mosey over to the oregon forum and answer the questions people (including myself) are asking? They can be found in the top thread (last post). it's been sitting there since the 8th.

Link it to me and I'll forward it to the SW WA campaign manager

 

[freelance]

The Ron Paul supporters that got elected as other candidate delegates and as uncommitted would never have gotten elected as Ron Paul delegates to begin with.



You clearly do not know how the political system works.

Some clearly do not want to study the lessons learned. It's like talking to a wall.

Do any of you folks remember telling the LA people that it was all their fault--that they didn't know how to play the game. Well, maybe, just maybe the WA folks learned a lesson and enacted a game plan to win.

I still think that the beauty pageant numbers were massaged.

 

[FreedomFighter8008]

Every time I read the OP I get more upset.

Winning Washington would have won us more states and more delegates than having everyone hide their RP pride, if this is true

Idiot. People weren't "hiding their RP pride". It was a strategy to win delegates for RP. If you declared yourself as a RP delegate in a precinct with a bunch of McCain or Huckabee supporters, you didn't stand a chance of becoming a delegate. However, if you simply stated that you supported the party line well enough, but were "uncommitted", in many cases those people became delegates whereas they wouldn't have if they'd clearly stated they were for RP.

We did win Washington. Who cares if the "official" results say so or not. What matters is what happens at the national convention.

 

[tbrambo]

I understand

I understand what you're saying. Some people think that it's a waist to not put Ron Paul on there and instead say uncommitted, but what's the bigger waist? NOT getting in at all. THAT'S the real waist. It's better that you guys wrote uncommitted and got in, instead of not getting a place at all.

WE MUST keep a stealthy mindset. This is not going to be blared from the roof tops.

We are the tortoise.......we are underground.....we are special ops.....but that doesn't mean we can't win that way. In face, that's the only way we will win.

the media will NEVER give us our props! NEVER.....

 

[RonPaulFTFW]

wow that was dumb.

we could have won that state and got some national attention.

its worth more than a few delegates because we cant win with delegates anyway. There is NO chance we can win a delegate race.
Zero!
Stop pretending.

sigh.
another good example of the HQ not showing leadership.

 

[princessredtights]

Remember, only about 1/2 the delegates were from the caucus on Saturday. The remainder will be from the primary on February 19.

 

[JK/SEA]

wow that was dumb.

we could have won that state and got some national attention.

its worth more than a few delegates because we cant win with delegates anyway. There is NO chance we can win a delegate race.
Zero!
Stop pretending.

sigh.
another good example of the HQ not showing leadership.

Ron Paul won Washington State.

Ron took 68% of the un-committeds. By my calculations from the numbers last night, that gives Ron 3974 delegates. That number will go up awhen the dust settles.

The real game is afoot in a few weeks folks. Stop with the parroting of those clowns from the AP, FOX AND CNN.

They are pandering to the sheeple who demand a 'winner and a loser' come hell or highwater. Doesn't work that way.

THIS IS NOT OVER...unless of course you want it to. This is our movement. I'm still fighting. Who's with me?

DELEGATE from Snohomish County Washington, for RON PAUL.

 

[Cascadian]

Well, of course we're with you, JK! All this nay-saying talk on these boards; we don't need or want this right now. Before a battle, is this what troops are told? "We can't win. It's hopeless. We have no chance. It's over before it's begun." NO. It's "We can win this. We can overcome. Fight on!"

Why would any Ron Paul supporter look to the media for encouragement? They have never been our cheerleaders. We did well yesterday. We will do even better at the conventions. Arm yourself with civility and knowledge. The more we speak one-on-one with the supporters (soon the delegates) of other candidates, the more we realize, and more importantly they realise, how little they know about their own misguided choices and how much they really agree with Ron Paul.

Three delegates from Lewis County, WA for Ron Paul
One delegate from Pierce County, WA for Ron Paul

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

There will be no final Washington results until 2/19 or after.

No STATE delegates are voted until 2/19.

WA has only begun.

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[surf]

Ok, screw the f#cking trolls. We have more RP committed delegates than do McWar or Huckabee. Ideally Huck hangs in through the next conventions (not much love for McWar here) splitting some of the delegate votes while we won't waiver.

I've posted this a few times here already, but my precinct had 3 attendees, two of whom (myself included - and i'll admit this was a mistake) wrote "undecided" on the sign-in sheet. The other wrote "Paul." My precinct elected 4 Ron Paul delegates and 2 Ron Paul alternate delegates. I have a friend in Seattle that is a PCO and he had only one person show (himself), yet he has two committed RP delegates (which i doubt the State HQ knows about). The State GOP can claim what it wants to based on some "straw poll" that many of us didn't even realize was being conducted (i found no notification on any of the GOP websites that results of the "sign-in" sheet would be tabulated and there was no mention of this at our caucus sight).

Edit: you did not need to be present to be elected as a delegate

 

[4RP08inKCMO]

Ron took 68% of the un-committeds.

How do you know he has 68% of the uncommitted votes?

 

[Vali]

The delegates chosen in Saturday's Washington Republican caucus are delegates to the COUNTY conventions, not State delegates. There has not been ONE vote counted here for any Republican yet. We have more RP delegates to county conventions than is being reported. 2 of the 3 delegates in our precinct are for Ron. I know of two other 'uncommitted' delegates in another precinct that are RP supporters, too. Also, we had 8 people attend in our precinct, 7 of them were RP supporters. I have been actively campaigning for Ron Paul for 8 months now, I have had a 4x8 Ron Paul sign on my property on a State highway, for several months, it sure would have been hard for me to sell myself as 'uncommitted' to become a delegate. We didn't have any kind of open discussion or straw poll for candidates, none.