We DID WIN Washington!!

[literatim]

This is sad. You think Ron Paul is gonna get 100% of the uncommitted? Why? Because some poster said so? Give me a break.

Also you're confused on my reference. McCain's 26% / Ron Paul's 21% = 1.238, or 23.8% more than Ron Paul.

100%? Maybe not, but it takes a lot of effort to show up and caucus and the odds are slim for someone to run as an uncommitted delegate and get voted in without an organized effort. The Ron Paul campaign was actively pushing for Ron Paul supporters to run as uncommitted delegates to sneak in under hostile territory. I guarantee you no other candidate was doing such a thing.

How do you know he gets no delegates? Are you assuming that none of the uncommitted delegates would vote for him? If so, then that's a pretty lame assumption. Right now, he gets the press for winning the state. If the state convention becomes relevant, then he'll get a good chuck of the delegates. It probably won't be relevant though after McCain sweeps the contests this Tuesday.

The Louisiana primary provided no delegates, period. It had no relevance at all to the distribution of national delegates nor to the upcoming state convention.

 

[nbhadja]

Are fortilite, and the trolls jeff w/e etc a bunch of 10 year olds??

They have no freakin clue how the process works yet spout on and on about how right they are. You are wrong and look like a bunch of clowns defending your ignorance. Do some research.

 

[Avalon]

In WA (from what I've gathered), the vote tallies that the media is reporting has nothing to do with delegates at all. It's just another one of many beauty contests that we've seen. Their numbers come from the sign-in sheets where each voter was asked their Presidential Preference. Preferences don't vote. Delegates vote. Vote = win. QED.

Wow, that certainly does make sense. Can anyone from WA confirm this? Everyone who showed up was counted in this, not simply the ones who were selected as delegates?

 

[tomveil]

Those are state delegates. Maybe you should revise your insulting remark.

LOL

I went to the WA Caucuses today.

I've been training for 6 weeks.

I'm 100000000000000000000% sure I know more about the process than you.

We got more than our straw poll %s again today.

 

[Avalon]

Are fortilite, and the trolls jeff w/e etc a bunch of 10 year olds??

They have no freakin clue how the process works yet spout on and on about how right they are. You are wrong and look like a bunch of clowns defending your ignorance. Do some research.

They aren't RP supporters.

 

[tomveil]

Wow, that certainly does make sense. Can anyone from WA confirm this? Everyone who showed up was counted in this, not simply the ones who were selected as delegates?

Yes, that's true. Our pooled caucus did a straw poll, and they said "These are the #s that will be reported to the media". The delegate selection was done AFTER THIS WAS FINISHED.

 

[fortilite]

Are fortilite, and the trolls jeff w/e etc a bunch of 10 year olds??

They have no freakin clue how the process works yet spout on and on about how right they are. You are wrong and look like a bunch of clowns defending your ignorance. Do some research.

Ron Paul has 21% of the state delegates. McCain has 26%. What is there to not understand.

BTW, I was supporting Ron Paul long before you. Funny that call me a troll for being one of the only intellectually honest people in this thread. I'm not gonna BS myself into thinking Ron Paul has most of the uncommitted delegates just because I want it to be true. If you think 38% of Ron Paul's supporters that entered the delegate process entered claiming uncommitted, you are crazy. That is nothing but wishful thinking.

 

[jeff43]

We're the only ones not violating the Forum Constitution's rule of calling other posters names. Just because we don't blindly believe that Paul won Washington and Louisiana when everything else says otherwise doesn't make us trolls.

 

[fortilite]

They aren't RP supporters.

All you are accomplishing is giving false hope to the gullible and distraught. And you call me a troll.

I put over 100 hours and $1000 into this grassroots effort and you call me a troll. You are just a freaking joke. Ron Paul got 21% of the state delegates to McCain's 26%. Until you can provide any evidence to the contrary kindly STFU. People like you make the rest of us look bad. All you are doing is spinning and distorting. Closing your eyes and pretending we won doesn't do anything.

 

[literatim]

Ron Paul has 21% of the state delegates. McCain has 26%. What is there to not understand.

As someone said earlier, those are just estimates based on sign in sheets. When you entered your caucus, you wrote down your candidate preference. They assume that delegates were distributed proportionately according to the preference straw poll. They were not.

We're the only ones not violating the Forum Constitution's rule of calling other posters names. Just because we don't blindly believe that Paul won Washington and Louisiana when everything else says otherwise doesn't make us trolls.

Trolls or simply ignorant of the facts.

 

[fortilite]

As someone said earlier, those are just estimates based on sign in sheets. When you entered your caucus, you wrote down your candidate preference. They assume that delegates were distributed proportionately according to the preference straw poll. They were not.

Evidence? Please? Can one of you guys actually provide any sort of evidence?

Because with McCain getting 23% more delegates so far, I really think you need to provide some sort of evidence to start claiming victory.

 

[tomveil]

Evidence? Please? Can one of you guys actually provide any sort of evidence?

I don't know how many times I have to say

I WAS THERE AND THIS IS EXACTLY CORRECT

 

[jeff43]

WHAT FACTS? You haven't provided any facts that Paul won LA or WA. Official results say otherwise. Why are we supposed to believe you? Just because you say so? Believe what we say, or we'll outcast you as a troll. That isn't what the freedom message is all about.

 

[Avalon]

I don't know how many times I have to say

I WAS THERE AND THIS IS EXACTLY CORRECT

Don't expect them to, they're being paid by the hour. Look at Jeff's signature.

 

[fortilite]

I don't know how many times I have to say

I WAS THERE AND THIS IS EXACTLY CORRECT

Yeah, I've heard this before. In Wyoming, for example.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

delegates....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJdF8DJ70Dc

 

[gray]

Ron Paul has 21% of the state delegates. McCain has 26%. What is there to not understand.

BTW, I was supporting Ron Paul long before you. Funny that call me a troll for being one of the only intellectually honest people in this thread. I'm not gonna BS myself into thinking Ron Paul has most of the uncommitted delegates just because I want it to be true. If you think 38% of Ron Paul's supporters that entered the delegate process entered claiming uncommitted, you are crazy. That is nothing but wishful thinking.

If you were on the WA boards all day you would have seen the many posters who went to the WA caucuses and said they signed in as 'uncommitted' as instructed by the campaign. There was a lot of RP hype at the caucuses. Even the king's website had live coverage saying that RP had the most support there.

The votes that cnn put out are only the sign in sheets man...and now there's an audio clip out that says that the votes weren't even from the sign in sheets...they were from primary absentee ballots.

 

[fortilite]

If you were on the WA boards all day you would have seen the many posters who went to the WA caucuses and said they signed in as 'uncommitted' as instructed by the campaign. There was a lot of RP hype at the caucuses. Even the king's website had live coverage saying that RP had the most support there.

The votes that cnn put out are only the sign in sheets man...and now there's an audio clip out that says that the votes weren't even from the sign in sheets...they were from primary absentee ballots.

What are you talking about? CNN isn't posting votes. Those are state delegates.

 

[gray]

What are you talking about? CNN isn't posting votes. Those are state delegates.

votes = state delegates

excuse my interchanging of terms.

 

[jeff43]

Don't expect them to, they're being paid by the hour. Look at Jeff's signature.

The signature with Ron Paul quotes in it. But you're right, everyone with Ron Paul quotes in their signature is a troll. Ban them all. Ban them all for focusing on spreading Ron Paul's message beyond his Presidential bid. They have no place in this forum or this campaign.