We Are The Future Rally - live updates and discussion thread

Elwar said:
I have not read the full thread but I saw a full stadium. I got there at 12 and they held us outside while they counted to see if there was enough room. There were no regular seats available, I had to sit way up in the nosebleed section where they had bleachers.

Wead even mentioned that they were sending people to the overflow space in the baseball stadium.
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good. the pictures we had must have been during the less popular speakers, some of whom kind of deserved it, frankly....
 
mac_hine said:
This, coupled with Ron's speech, both airing on c-span would have been amazing.

I don't think Romney's name was mentioned once during Ron's rally.
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This right here, is the big issue for me. The media reports from January/February of the "alliance", never attacking Romney only like Perry, Santorum, and Gingrich. Allowing Romney AND the RNC to runover the RP delegates....and sitting by in silence. Not one word about the man...yet they did mention Rick Santorum's name a few times in the rally today. Why? Rick Santorum is out of the race, has been since APRIL! APRIL! Rick Santorum last I checked, wasn't the only candidate in the race still. Rick Santorum actually attacked Romney viciously in the cycle, and STILL has a speaking spot at the RNC convention.

The entire campaign, waste of $30+ million, and not including the time which is more important the money to many.
 
RickyJ said:
Late 30s is old now? Please, not old at all!

90s is old, late 30s isn't even middle age for most people.
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I KNEW someone would interpret it that way. I only meant not the typical "young 20-something" people that the media likes to portray.
 
coffeewithchess said:
This right here, is the big issue for me. The media reports from January/February of the "alliance", never attacking Romney only like Perry, Santorum, and Gingrich. Allowing Romney AND the RNC to runover the RP delegates....and sitting by in silence. Not one word about the man...yet they did mention Rick Santorum's name a few times in the rally today. Why? Rick Santorum is out of the race, has been since APRIL! APRIL! Rick Santorum last I checked, wasn't the only candidate in the race still. Rick Santorum actually attacked Romney viciously in the cycle, and STILL has a speaking spot at the RNC convention.

The entire campaign, waste of $30+ million, and not including the time which is more important the money to many.
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Coffee, are you ALWAYS grumpy?
 
i just watched the rally on c-span...

the libertarian professor talking about abortion just seemed messy, touchy subject and was way too long >.>
 
wgadget said:
Coffee, are you ALWAYS grumpy?
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Haha, how is stating that grumpy? It is a legitimate issue. The campaign wasted $30+ million, and was dishonest with supporters/donors. They wasted delegates time, after telling people to get involved to become delegates. It is a legitimate issue, it's not grumpy. They tried to play the lame "emotional" card with sap videos, that's what I would expect from the RNC and DNC, not something that is about "the message" or "the movement".
 
What's done is done. How can you come away from Ron's inspiring speech with whining about something we can do nothing about?
 
just got home from the rally and after party(wish i could have stayed longer, people were still showing up when i left.) I have pics etc.. drove through tampa on the way home, war zone, military in the streets etc..

spoke with delegates from OK and MI. The delegates are going to challenge rule 15, I saw the memo. My faith is renewed!
 
coffeewithchess said:
Haha, how is stating that grumpy? It is a legitimate issue. The campaign wasted $30+ million, and was dishonest with supporters/donors. They wasted delegates time, after telling people to get involved to become delegates. It is a legitimate issue, it's not grumpy. They tried to play the lame "emotional" card with sap videos, that's what I would expect from the RNC and DNC, not something that is about "the message" or "the movement".
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man the delegates don't feel the way you do, i think you should tone down.
 
wgadget said:
What's done is done. How can you come away from Ron's inspiring speech with whining about something we can do nothing about?
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It's not like what RP said today was really all that "new" if you were around since 2008 (or before). A few lines here and there, but nothing else. And we can do something about the Ron Paul 2012 campaign; that is tell them that Rand doesn't get a DIME since they wanted to waste the efforts this go around for paychecks and not for winning. When Doug Wead said before Iowa that it was basically really about Rand, there is the beginning evidence that the RP campaign didn't want to win, and was simply doing what...I'm not even sure.
 
newbitech said:
man the delegates don't feel the way you do, i think you should tone down.
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I hope the delegates have some success, in whatever it is they can do at the convention, and again...the delegates for RP did their jobs, and what was asked. The campaign did not.
 
VegasPatriot sent me what he called a picture with an RPF legend:

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it wasn't the one I expected, but no complaints!
 
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anyone give me a quick recap of the important events that transpired today? I'm super busy and can't read through the thread. Thanks
 
coffeewithchess said:
This right here, is the big issue for me. The media reports from January/February of the "alliance", never attacking Romney only like Perry, Santorum, and Gingrich. Allowing Romney AND the RNC to runover the RP delegates....and sitting by in silence. Not one word about the man...yet they did mention Rick Santorum's name a few times in the rally today. Why? Rick Santorum is out of the race, has been since APRIL! APRIL! Rick Santorum last I checked, wasn't the only candidate in the race still. Rick Santorum actually attacked Romney viciously in the cycle, and STILL has a speaking spot at the RNC convention.

The entire campaign, waste of $30+ million, and not including the time which is more important the money to many.
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Your conclusion is wrong. But if the same race happened again, it's more clear now that the conservatives have to stick together. Of course, many here believe that only Ron Paul is conservative. I would argue that the strategy of "last Conservative standing will beat last RINO standing" was wrong this year and did not work.

Clearly, beating the crap out of Romney early and often would've beaten Romney.

I have no idea why attacking Santorum right now is taking place. The idea must be that RP is working toward establishing that true conservatives are libertarian not social conservatives, I understand the point.

But, now, he's attacking Santorum? Santorum just released his delegates. I would assume that there are our delegates on the floor the next week trying to get Santorum people to vote for Paul. Dumping on Santorum doesn't help that. Not that it really matters. But our delegates want to do it, and we might as well make their task easier.

Romney is awful. It's becoming clear that under a Romney Presidency, nothing will be done that the Democrats don't want. If the Liberals don't want something, they'll
just pretend to be outraged, and Romney will cave. But even that is assuming that he's going to try to do something we want. Romney has the book "Things Liberals Want To Do", and that's what he's going to do. Santorum at least would've done some Social Conservative stuff that Liberals don't like.
 
Santorum is being allowed to speak at the RNC because he was willing to endorse Romney. Ron Paul was offered a speaking slot too, but he turned it down, because he wouldn't endorse Romney. What he wanted, and earned, was a 15 minute unedited speaking slot.
 
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