Water Vapor is 97% of Greenhouse Gases on Earth; Man's CO2 is 1% !!!

[PRB]

And it is a LIE.
I don't care what they say to attempt to justify and continue the LIE.
It is simply not true. It never has been. How hard is it to get through your head.
The Globe is not Warming, There were a couple years that were slightly warmer than normal. Not "caused" by anything other than normal earth cycles.

AL Gore is a lying Politician. The idiots that pushed this with false data fed into a flawed Computer Program to predict "Global Warming" were lying.
This has been proven and documented.
It never was anything but a Scam to create a TAX. To Line the pockets of the Scammers.

Global Warming never had any basis in fact. It was pushed to the point of Mass Hysteria.
And you bought it.

Oh,,and the shipload of "scientists" that went to document that decrease in polar ice,, got stuck in the ice hundreds of miles from where they were going. They were spectacularly WRONG.

and you seem to assume that to line pockets and force taxes, they need the globe to be warming, since you're so sure that CO2 doesn't cause warming, according to you, the argument would work equally fine if they said CO2 causes cooling, and therefore cooling can also justify taxes.

What do you know about normal earth cycles? If you're so sure the warming and cooling is normal cycles, you must have a greater prediction power than these warmist alarmists.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

if more CO2 in the air causes more heat to be retained then won't that increase the amount of water vapor? derp.

 

[pcosmar]

What do you know about normal earth cycles? If you're so sure the warming and cooling is normal cycles, you must have a greater prediction power than these warmist alarmists.

prediction power?

These fools cannot predict the weather within a week accurately.
In general they are as accurate as throwing darts at a dart board.

I swear,, they don't even look out the damn window to see if it is sunny or raining.

 

[PRB]

prediction power?

These fools cannot predict the weather within a week accurately.

You can't predict my next coin flip accurately either, does that mean you can't predict 1 million coin flips?

In general they are as accurate as throwing darts at a dart board.

I swear,, they don't even look out the damn window to see if it is sunny or raining.

forget about them, are you, or is there anybody, who believes the climate hasn't changed due to human activity, and has a better predictive power for either climate or weather? That's my question, I don't care about the people who are wrong, I want to know is there anybody who's right.

 

[PRB]

if more CO2 in the air causes more heat to be retained then won't that increase the amount of water vapor? derp.

yes, which also causes more releasing CO2 into atmosphere from ocean, which is what some describe as a vicious cycle.

 

[Dr.3D]

If you study the carbon cycle, you will note, it is a self moderating system that will balance out anyway.

The primary source of carbon/CO2 is outgassing from the Earth's interior at midocean ridges, hotspot volcanoes, and subduction-related volcanic arcs.

http://www.columbia.edu/~vjd1/carbon.htm

 

[pcosmar]

I want to know is there anybody who's right.

NO.
weather changes. From day to day,, from year to year. it goes through heating and cooling cycles and has done so for thousands of years.

They can not predict the weather next week,, let alone next year.

When I was in High School a few years back,,they were predicting an Ice Age. (they were wrong) Then there was global warming (they were wrong)

Now it is Climate Change. (well duh) it changes.. and has done so ,, and will continue to do so.

CO2 is not even relevant. (it is an insignificant % of the atmosphere)

That huge Bright Ball in the sky heats the planet. It fluctuates. and does so without the input of man.

 

[juleswin]

yes, which also causes more releasing CO2 into atmosphere from ocean, which is what some describe as a vicious cycle.

If you actually believed that then why hasn't earth gone into a run away global warming the first Tuesday it got hot?. One thing you guys never mention is the negative feedbacks built into the system.

 

[Dr.3D]

That huge Bright Ball in the sky heats the planet. It fluctuates. and does so without the input of man.

Yes, and that's why many of the other planets in the system have the same things happen to their polar ice. It's not like they have inhabitants spewing CO2 into their atmospheres.

 

[pcosmar]

yes, , which is what some describe as a vicious cycle.

NO,, that is the rain cycle. (or water cycle)

 

[PRB]

If you actually believed that then why hasn't earth gone into a run away global warming the first Tuesday it got hot?. One thing you guys never mention is the negative feedbacks built into the system.

no, they do, and that's part of the point, feedback doesn't always catch up with the rate of warming.

 

[PRB]

NO.
weather changes. From day to day,, from year to year. it goes through heating and cooling cycles and has done so for thousands of years.

They can not predict the weather next week,, let alone next year.

When I was in High School a few years back,,they were predicting an Ice Age. (they were wrong)

No, they're right, according to you. But to be clear, it wasn't scientists who predicted it, the media picked up a story and sensationalized it, most scientists at the time did NOT predict global cooling or an ice age. the fact you were misinformed does not change the fact scientists knew a bit more than looking out their windows.

Then there was global warming (they were wrong)

they're wrong? so they're right about cooling then? which one is it?

Now it is Climate Change. (well duh) it changes.. and has done so ,, and will continue to do so.

No, it's still global warming, and climate change is used interchangeably, despite political rhethoric.

CO2 is not even relevant. (it is an insignificant % of the atmosphere)

what is significant? are you disputing greenhouse effect? or just how much it plays in climate?

That huge Bright Ball in the sky heats the planet. It fluctuates. and does so without the input of man.

that's not what's been happening for the past 30 years, where we expected the sun to decrease warming ,but warming increased. so nice try.

 

[PRB]

Yes, and that's why many of the other planets in the system have the same things happen to their polar ice. It's not like they have inhabitants spewing CO2 into their atmospheres.

which planets are we talking about?

 

[PRB]

If you study the carbon cycle, you will note, it is a self moderating system that will balance out anyway.

http://www.columbia.edu/~vjd1/carbon.htm

that's like saying whatever droughts, hurricanes, floods happen, the water level will eventually balance out. well duh. do you want to live through it though? even for a year?

whatever depressions, inflations this economy has, it will EVENTUALLY BALANCE OUT, let's ignore what's going to happen, because in the end it'll all come back to equilibrium, right?

 

[Dr.3D]

which planets are we talking about?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

 

[Dr.3D]

that's like saying whatever droughts, hurricanes, floods happen, the water level will eventually balance out. well duh. do you want to live through it though? even for a year?

whatever depressions, inflations this economy has, it will EVENTUALLY BALANCE OUT, let's ignore what's going to happen, because in the end it'll all come back to equilibrium, right?

So far it hasn't gotten out of balance.

 

[PRB]

So far it hasn't gotten out of balance.

just like we're not in a depression yet. don't worry about things until they happen.

 

[PRB]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-on-mars-intermediate.htm

 

[Foundation_Of_Liberty]

The CO2 constitutes less than 1% of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. Water vapor constitutes over 97% of green house gasses. Should we forbid water?

It is undisputed scientific fact that CO2 levels used to be 10 times what they are now during periods of BOTH cooling and warming.

Therefore, to state that CO2 level (let alone human produced CO2) is the key driving parameter for the climate is unscientific and contradicts observable facts. And yes, the entire solar system goes through sycles of global warming and global cooling; and no, it is not caused by SUV's.

 

[PRB]

The CO2 constitutes less than 1% of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. Water vapor constitutes over 97% of green house gasses. Should we forbid water?

Not unless it has a greater effect.

It is undisputed scientific fact that CO2 levels used to be 10 times what they are now during periods of BOTH cooling and warming.

When exactly are you talking about?

Therefore, to state that CO2 level (let alone human produced CO2) is the key driving parameter for the climate is unscientific and contradicts observable facts. And yes, the entire solar system goes through sycles of global warming and global cooling; and no, it is not caused by SUV's.

You can't first say water is also a greenhouse gas, and then say CO2 isn't in the same breath. Which one is it?

What is the observable facts that give a better explanation of warming (it's not the sun, since the correlation has stopped for over 30 years)