Water Vapor is 97% of Greenhouse Gases on Earth; Man's CO2 is 1% !!!

[Foundation_Of_Liberty]

Somebody should inform Obama..... maybe he would quit being such a dumb ass about "green" everything and allow some coal to be mined and some oil to be drilled for and for sure, stop with the stupid government spending on failing green enterprises.

Good point. But then again. He has been told. "Human cause global warming" is just a PRETEXT for more government control. It has no basis in reality, fact, science, logic, justice, or morality. It is a SCAM. (And most of them know it, including Obama!)

 

[boneyard bill]

The global warming theory was falsified long ago. Global warming is supposed to occur in the troposphere. That's where the CO2 collects. The surface of the earth gets its warming from there. Therefore, according to the greenhouse gas theory, tropospheric warming should be roughly 30% higher than surface warming. But observational evidence shows the reverse to be true. Tropospheric warming is less than the surface warming. So where is that extra heat coming from to warm the surface? Global warming theorists have no clue.

Of course, even on the surface it hasn't warmed for the last 15 years or so. So the global warmers have an even bigger problem with that issue. Still, they persist. Now they're trying to claim "climate change." More hurricanes, etc. This is also unsupported by observational evidence.

 

[jtstellar]

and not all 1% is 'men-generated'? trees give out co2 at night.

 

[boneyard bill]

and not all 1% is 'men-generated'? trees give out co2 at night.

Yes, and the oceans out-gas CO2 IN RESPONSE to warming. This theory is just a bunch of crap from start to finish. It's all about expanding the role of government and making a lot of money off carbon credits in the process.

 

[acptulsa]

Yes, and the oceans out-gas CO2 IN RESPONSE to warming. This theory is just a bunch of crap from start to finish. It's all about expanding the role of government and making a lot of money off carbon credits in the process.

Oh, it goes deeper than that. There's also oil and nuclear interests (a group which includes the Military Industrial Complex) vs. coal interests. We have plenty of coal. We aren't in danger of running out of it. We don't need to accept the incredible risks of nuclear energy to get our electricity; we don't need to waste natural gas to get our electricity. Coal can do that job.

But what fun is that? If we get all of our electric power from hydroelectric and coal, and use compressed/liquified natural gas to replace gas and diesel in our transportation, how do we jack up oil prices and justify more Mid-East war? And what excuse to we have to run our weapons-grade uranium generation plants?

 

[Foundation_Of_Liberty]

Good points, everyone!

 

[Foundation_Of_Liberty]

Geoengineering: The real climate threat

"Geoengineering, the Real Climate Threat", is an excellent analysis by James Corbett. [Corbett shows that (1) the claim that manmade CO2 is a threat to the planet is a politically motivated hoax, (2) the same group that had perpetuated that hoax is involved with geoengineering (changing the climate through chemical and electrical technology), and (3) their geoengineering schemes to combat the mythological CO2 threat is creating the very doomsday scenario that they claim to be trying to avoid.]

Global Research TV 2013 Feb 13


http://www.realityzone.com/currentperiod.html

 

[Carson]

Plants take in CO2 and expel oxygen?

People take in oxygen and expel CO2?

Aren't we just doing our jobs?

 

[green73]

CO2 comprises 0.0387 of the atmosphere. That's less than 1/10 of a percent. Of that Man produces a small percent. AGW is a scam to bring about a tax on energy consumption. The oligarchs want ever so much to keep us hobbled.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

That's it! - We MUST BAN WATER!

-t

 

[bolil]

Look, the science is irrelevant (To them). Do you think the Mayan priests really cared what caused an eclipse, if anything? No, they had this mysterious thing with potentially catastrophic consequences, and they monopolized the interpretation of the phenomenon (data) to shore up public support for the religion dominated power structure of the time. Fear is a powerful tool, the number one fulcrum of human nature. What? Are the Global scientists to the establishment what Mayan priest were to the Mayan King? Albeit in a much more sophisticated way, I believe they are. Religion has given way to science.

 

[Carson]

That's it! - We MUST BAN WATER!

-t

Your going to have to go all, "Dihydrogen Monoxide" on us and explain how;



Dihydrogen monoxide:

is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
may cause severe burns.
is fatal if inhaled.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of Styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax

 

[idiom]

Water Vapour and CO2 block different spectra. But please don't let any science get involved in the conversation.

Climate is a chaotic system. This means its nearly impossible to predict what effect a given input will have on the system.

 

[Henry Rogue]

Water Vapour and CO2 block different spectra. But please don't let any science get involved in the conversation..

By all means, elaborate.

Climate is a chaotic system. This means its nearly impossible to predict what effect a given input will have on the system.

So you're saying it is impossible for Climate scientist to know if human caused CO2 is creating global warming or climate change? I agree.

 

[idiom]

By all means, elaborate.

So your saying it is impossible for Climate scientist to know if human caused CO2 is creating global warming or climate change? I agree.

I am saying its virtually impossible to predict what would happen if we dumped 100x more CO2 into the atmosphere than we are currently doing.

Chaotic systems have massive changes if a 10 decimal place input gets *rounded* to a 5 decimal place input. There are way to many variables and far to much noise in the data to make predictions even if there was no massive political pressure on the results.

Lets say the Earth was heating up naturally and humanity decided a 60 metre sea level rise was an undesired outcome. How would we fix it? The best idea I have seen involves sun shades in space. These would probably cool the planet, we hope, but they would massively bugger up so many other natural systems and biomes.

 

[Antischism]

Man, both sides on the global warming issue give me massive headaches. Both seem to be extreme and unwilling to change their viewpoints when facts are presented. All people do is choose from column A and ignore column B, while the other side does the reverse. Yes, there's a lot of alarmism and environmental doom porn, but I think there's also reason to believe that man has negatively influenced/shaped our environmental issues. How much and whether or not it's sustainable is the real question, and I don't think it's possible to know. Now, does this mean we should take drastic preventative measures? Certainly, having the government interfere in these issues isn't the right way to go. We need less government, not more.

Should we be collecting/raising money to stop deforestation, for example, so that private ownership is used as a means to end it? What about gas emissions? Is it worthwhile to reduce it now, or has the damage already been done, if any?

The Earth is going to continue going through cycles regardless what we humans do, but the big question will always be: How big of a role do we play, and how much can we change for the better?

 

[libertariantexas]

Water Vapor is 97% of Greenhouse Gases on Earth!

Man Made CO2 is less than 1% !!!

Man-Made-Global-Warming swindle is about Global Governance, not the environment, and is based on a lie!



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So if you weigh 200 lbs, and have a 2 lb malignant tumor in your brain (only 1%- how could such a small percentage matter?), you have nothing to worry about, right?

 

[libertyjam]

So if you weigh 200 lbs, and have a 2 lb malignant tumor in your brain (only 1%- how could such a small percentage matter?), you have nothing to worry about, right?

Yeah, because CO2, a necessary compound for life, is so like a malignant tumor...

 

[acptulsa]

And yet government still dams up rivers, thus encouraging more of the stuff to evaporate than God ever intended...

 

[whippoorwill]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"...A crucial means of establishing and maintaining this domination is by co-opting, by bringing within the ruling elite, the opinion-moulding classes in society. These opinion-moulders are the professional shapers of opinion: theorists, academics, journalists and other media movers and shakers, script writers and directors, writers, pundits, think-tankers, consultants, agitators, and social therapists. There are two essential roles for these assorted and proliferating technocrats and intellectuals: to weave apologies for the statist regime, and to help staff the interventionist bureaucracy and to plan the system.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The keys to any social or political movement are money, numbers, and ideas. The opinion-moulding classes, the technocrats and intellectuals supply the ideas, the propaganda, and the personnel to staff the new statist dispensation. The critical funding is supplied by figures in the power elite: various members of the wealthy or big business (usually corporate) classes."

Rothbard


...And scientists are some how magically immune to these political forces...? The climate has always been changing, we survive it and will continue to do so by adopting unfettered capital accumulation, not more government. In fact, the government burdens those who are trying to adapt by taking their very means to do so.
[/FONT]

Rothbard is the man.