Warning to vote fixers trolling here....

[SteveMartin]

...whether you are a mere precinct worker, a county commissioner, or a high-level GOP mucky-muck. Vote fraud at the level we saw tonight in Washington state is still TREASON.

Treason is still punishable by death.

Ron Paul has a much larger portion of the military supporting him (as clearly exhibited by the Q4 donation numbers) than all the other candidates combined. They will gladly pull the trigger to save the bedrock principles of American democracy.

Just keep that all in mind, get a conscience, and report what you know NOW, and you may be spared.

 

[mexicanpizza]

The only thing that has kept me from buying into widespread vote fraud is that I have to believe that somewhere, someone has the guts to tape a conversation, save an email, or videotape some fraud in action.

The fact that "they" could cover "it" up so well (with a 100% success rate), tells me that Occam's Razor applies...ie...no fraud.

But I hope I'm wrong...

 

[mexicanpizza]

They sure got him quick ^^. Nice job mods!

 

[jeff43]

Is there any proof that voting fraud occured?

 

[SteveMartin]

A leafy "Bug" lining up to be swatted, I see.

 

[affa]

The only thing that has kept me from buying into widespread vote fraud is that I have to believe that somewhere, someone has the guts to tape a conversation, save an email, or videotape some fraud in action.

The fact that "they" could cover "it" up so well (with a 100% success rate), tells me that Occam's Razor applies...ie...no fraud.

But I hope I'm wrong...

Eh, the American public knows vote fraud goes on. They just don't care. I mean, hell, most of the country still uses Diebold doesn't it?

 

[SteveMartin]

Why are there no results for county-by-county out of WA??? We got them for the other states??

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=WAREP3

 

[jeff43]

It's just taking longer to report. The New Mexico Democratic primary took until the next day to report the winner. That doesn't mean that voting fraud occured. Currently they have 78% reporting and John McCain is winning.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

The only thing that has kept me from buying into widespread vote fraud is that I have to believe that somewhere, someone has the guts to tape a conversation, save an email, or videotape some fraud in action.

The fact that "they" could cover "it" up so well (with a 100% success rate), tells me that Occam's Razor applies...ie...no fraud.

But I hope I'm wrong...

Occam's Razor also shows that Ron Paul's platform is the most correct, as it's the easiest to enact. Bring the troops home save a trillion dollars is a no brainer. I bet someone is saving that evidence just in case. It's natural for people to not go against the grain, yet document to save their ass if they are about to get hosed.

 

[brianbb98]

eryy

 

[JordanQ72]

Vote fraud at the level we saw tonight in Washington state is still TREASON.

Actually, it's not.

 

[ChickenHawk]

It is impossible for the vote to be manipulated in this caucus. Delegates are elected and they have a candidate preference that you cannot change by any kind of vote fraud. The only way you could change the outcome is to bribe or threaten the delegates into changing their preference.

 

[SteveMartin]

Uh huh. And, you mean to tell me the results can be "miscounted" and/or "misreported??"

And, anyone who thinks vote fraud is not treason does not understand what a democracy is.

(Of course, I know we are a Republic, but I got to yield some to the novice observers.)

 

[SteveMartin]

Again, CNN is updated before the WA GOP website. CNN is now showing 83% of precincts reporting, but the WA GOP is still showing 78%.

How does THAT happen???

 

[jeff43]

They're just slower at updating their website?

 

[SteveMartin]

jeff43,

Did you ever considered a career as a stand up comic?

 

[mr_x]

Now when will they ban the other troll(s) - I'm looking at you Jeff43!

i'd have to agree with you on that one. i mean, look at his sig! what the hell kind of sig is that for a ron paul forum?

 

[nate895]

It is impossible for the vote to be manipulated in this caucus. Delegates are elected and they have a candidate preference that you cannot change by any kind of vote fraud. The only way you could change the outcome is to bribe or threaten the delegates into changing their preference.

You know that we wrote in pencil, right.

 

[jeff43]

A signature with RON PAUL'S OWN QUOTES IN IT! Ban me, and you'll have to ban everyone here with a Ron Paul quote in their signatures. Is that what you're saying? I've vowed to keep spreading Ron Paul's message beyond his Presidential bid. I'm here to stay and am currently fighting to get Ron Paul re-elected in Congress like he is. And I am also focusing on the ron paul for congress website which has others running for Congress with similar messages to Ron Paul. These are good endeavors and I hardly think that a troll would work for these things. That guy who called Paul a racist was a troll. I've never said a bad word about Paul on here and I was one of only two people defending him against the white supremacist, Sauron, in another thread today.

 

[nightlight]

It is impossible for the vote to be manipulated in this caucus. Delegates are elected and they have a candidate preference that you cannot change by any kind of vote fraud. The only way you could change the outcome is to bribe or threaten the delegates into changing their preference.

There could be a "mistake" in adding totals which will get corrected weeks later with no publicity. In the meantime McCain will celeberate his victory and media will use our last place as an excuse to keep pretending that Ron Paul doesn't exist.

The campaign should have organized or at least nudged the grassroots after the disappointing NH results, to form a parallel grassroots based verification system aiming to prevent the grossest forms of the vote fraud.

Note that the implementation particulars of such system need not be completely effective to have the confidence and morale boosting effects on the supporters. Once the doubts have set in about the NH counts, the energy and spirits of the movement were deflated and the sense that no one is minding the store or cares about winning at the HQ had become widespread. The ambivalent email, easy to interpret as calling it quits at the eve of today's caucases didn't exactly help in rallying the troups.