War Isn’t Actually Pointless

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War Isn’t Actually Pointless

War Isn’t Actually Pointless

FREEMANSPERSPECTIVE · Jul 28th, 2015

People often say that war is pointless, and it must be admitted that their argument is a good one:

What was gained in Iraq and Afghanistan? Things there are just as bad today as when the Western armies rolled in. And the threat to the West seems no less. To what end were all those people killed, mutilated, and terrorized?


What was the point of all the kingdom-versus-kingdom wars? Borders shifted left; borders shifted right; but the daily lives of the farmers, bakers, and traders mostly went back to normal after all the death.


And so on.


Even in the case of World War II – our best “wild man must be stopped” scenario – the facts don’t actually bear out the effectiveness of war. Yes, I’m very glad that Hitler was stopped (had I been there, I might have undertaken to kill him myself), but in full honesty, we must also admit that while the war stopped Hitler, it also made the world safe for Stalin, who went on to kill more people than Hitler ever did.


And without Stalin and a strong USSR, would Pol Pot have been able to kill a fourth of the population of Cambodia? Would Mao have been able to rack up the greatest death toll in human history… as much as Stalin and Hitler combined?


So, even in our very best scenario, a good argument can be made for war’s pointlessness.


But alas, I am drifting from my title subject, where I maintain that war is not pointless.


The Ruler and the “Poor Slob”


One of the more instructive quotes on war comes from Hermann Göring, a key member of Hitler’s inner circle. Notice the distinction he makes between the people and the leaders.

Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany.

That is understood.


But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship.


Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.


This explains why we so often see war as pointless: We’re looking at it from the vantage point of the poor slob, not from the vantage point of the ruler.


So, the truth is that war is not pointless… it’s only pointless from the standpoint of the poor slob who has to suffer and die in it.


For the ruler, war has a clear and compelling purpose: it gets rid of competitors.


States fight. That is as accurate as any statement of history that can be found. It was true 6,000 years ago and it is true now. Conflict is part of the core nature of states; they compete like animals over limited territories. Thus, war serves them.


Individuals can fight too, of course, but ask yourself this: Among the 200 or so human beings who live closest to you, how many fistfights have you seen over the last few years?


On the other hand, among the 200 or so states on this planet, several dozen have had wars over the last few years. Doesn’t that say something about the nature of states versus the nature of individuals?


The Other Reason


But it’s not just because of their perpetual competition that war has a purpose for state leaders. They also need it for upholding their legitimacy.

As we mentioned two weeks ago, every state rests on legitimacy: the belief that is it right for the state to take money by force, to punish those who disobey them, and to send children to die in wars.


If people ever stopped believing these things – if they stopped holding them as legitimate – the state itself would fail.


So, the other purpose of war is to uphold the legitimacy of the state.


One way to uphold state legitimacy is simply to work the perennial human weakness, fear. Thus, we have our modern “war on terror,” including this year’s new bogeyman, ISIS. The terror of monsters works for legitimacy, because scary monsters require something equally big and scary to stop them… and that necessary thing is a warfare state.


Interestingly enough, war is especially important for legitimacy just now, since “forever prosperity for all” isn’t working and the less-favored classes remain compliant only because they’re bought off with free food. So, war is one of the few things that still uphold the state’s legitimacy.


Curtailing war would help the economic situation, of course. But that would also remove the bands that tie millions of people to the state for emotional comfort. (See here for an explanation.) So, pulling back on war would probably be a net loss to legitimacy.


This is especially important to the state, because once legitimacy breaks, it’s hard to get it back.

Following the Vietnam War, for example, “Team America Always Wins!” stopped selling and didn’t come all the way back for decades. So, with “forever prosperity for all” failing, war remains essential to state legitimacy.


So…


My point in this article is that war tends to be pointless for the average person, but it’s definitely not pointless for their rulers. It is, to quote an old phrase, “the health of the state.”

So, when does war end? I’ll close by letting Albert Einstein answer that question for us:


Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war.


That might be a good topic to discuss with friends and neighbors.


Paul Rosenberg

www.freemansperspective.com


Related posts:


  1. Destroying the Myth That Military Power Equals Freedom
  2. Does Religion Cause War?

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The author left out the profit motive for war. States and crony parasites alike make quite good money in war profiteering, as a general rule. Otherwise a good piece. :cool:
 
Buffalo Soldiers - 2001

War is hell, but peace ? Peace is boring. Whatever you need, I can get it for you.




1989. The Berlin Wall is about to fall, and the world is about to be made safe for the new world order. But outside of Stuttgart, West Germany, at Theodore Roosevelt Army Base, Specialist Ray Elwood of the 317th Supply Battalion is about to find his own cold war turn white hot. Elwood's a lovable rogue, a conscript who's managed to turn his military servitude into a blossoming network of black market deals, more out of boredom than ambition. Officially, there's his day job as battalion secretary to the inept but caring Commander Wallace Berman. On the side, there's everything from selling the locals stolen Mop'N'Glo to cooking heroin for the base's ruthless head of Military Police, Sgt. Saad. When a new top sergeant arrives, with the avowed intention of cleaning the base up, Elwood thinks the new blood is nothing he can't handle, especially after he lays eyes on the top's daughter, rebellious Robyn. But that was before he figured in the $5 million in stolen arms that just landed on his lap, Berman's jealous wife, an insane Turkish drug dealer, and, of course, the resulting lust, betrayal, and murder.
 
People often say that war is pointless, and it must be admitted that their argument is a good one:

Setup up a straw man, then refute it intellectually?

Human acts to achieve his/her ends, so wars don't just happen, they are means for some people to achieve their ends.
 
Setup up a straw man, then refute it intellectually?

Human acts to achieve his/her ends, so wars don't just happen, they are means for some people to achieve their ends.

we have about 8 or 9 "wordsmiths" who hang around here.

try to ignore them. :)

and welcome to the forums.
 
we have about 8 or 9 "wordsmiths" who hang around here.

try to ignore them. :)

and welcome to the forums.

And several folks with next to zero debate and reasoning skills *ahem*HVACTech*ahem*. Welcome to The Jungle, Hellwolf. :)
 
And several folks with next to zero debate and reasoning skills *ahem*HVACTech*ahem*. Welcome to The Jungle, Hellwolf. :)

there is no such thing as "cold" HB. and all of your debate and reasoning skills are worthless.
should you attempt to discuss the subject with me..

are you a welder or not?

(please put me back on your ignore list :))
 
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IMO, the only reason war has ever been waged, is for greed. If you look at the USA, for example, every war we went into were for the same things our own people are afflicted with. So we attack a country because they are not democratic, they persecute their people.. Well so does the U.S.A.

We go to war with a country because there is an asset or assets we wish to steal from them. Every country is the same. War is for profit, not to the taxpayers but to people like Cheney and Haliburton. There is always an ulterior motive, and they don't give a chit how many people die to save their wealth or attain more wealth by theft of a foreign land's assets.
 
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