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Let's face it, Gary Johnson is probably a nice guy and a fine enough candidate, but he will not crack 1% in this election. He will be like Bob Barr and Michael Badnarik before him--he will have little to no impact--and then he will move on to something else. He just doesn't have the name recognition on top of the rules that hamper 3rd Parties anyway.

So, you're going to vote Obamney then, is that it because writing in Paul will also yield less than 1%.
 
So, you're going to vote Obamney then, is that it because writing in Paul will also yield less than 1%.

I'm going to vote for the guy I actually like, Ron Paul. It would be great if he got more than 1%, but that isn't the objective. Voting my conscience is the objective.
 
So, you're going to vote Obamney then, is that it because writing in Paul will also yield less than 1%.

No, I didn't say that. I might even vote for Gary Johnson, who knows.

I merely stated the fact that he will garner less than 1% of the vote, and there will be no "building" on his run, just as there wasn't for any of the previous LP candidates, some of whom had more name recognition than GJ.

I don't have the solution, I'm merely pointing out the problem. Ha
 
The idea is that GJ might be able to do well this year, because of all the Ron Paul supporters who suddenly have nothing else to do. By well, the best the LP has ever done, which is a little bit over 1%. Voting for GJ is really what Ron Paul supporters should be doing. And people shouldn't be busting on dailypaul for GJ hype.

So what if he gets a little bit over 1%? How is that minimally relevant to the future of the country? I don't think he'll get close to 1%, but even if he does, then what? It's utterly irrelevant.

They should be voting for Romney. If Obama wins another term, in 2016 every Republican candidate will be running on making Obamacare sustainable, not repealing it. Even Rand Paul.
 
So what if he gets a little bit over 1%? How is that minimally relevant to the future of the country? I don't think he'll get close to 1%, but even if he does, then what? It's utterly irrelevant.

They should be voting for Romney. If Obama wins another term, in 2016 every Republican candidate will be running on making Obamacare sustainable, not repealing it. Even Rand Paul.

Romney's going to 'replace it'. Seeing what was in Romneycare which he said Obama should take national, how much better do you think his 'replacement' will be?
 
Romney's going to 'replace it'. Seeing what was in Romneycare which he said Obama should take national, how much better do you think his 'replacement' will be?

I don't think he'll get the votes to replace it with anything of substance. Let alone a version of Romneycare, he isn't crazy. He'll just repeal most of it and get some stuff like across the states competition in.

Still, that misses the point: its' not really about what Romney will do. It's about the difference in terms of longer term consequences.
 
I don't think he'll get the votes to replace it with anything of substance. Let alone a version of Romneycare, he isn't crazy. He'll just repeal most of it and get some stuff like across the states competition in.

Still, that misses the point: its' not really about what Romney will do. It's about the difference in terms of longer term consequences.

It's all going to be the same bill. One bill that deletes X and replaces it with Y. Neither gets through without the other. And your statement implied that things would be materially different if Romney wins, and I doubt that. At this point, America has simply lost.
 
I don't think he'll get the votes to replace it with anything of substance. Let alone a version of Romneycare, he isn't crazy. He'll just repeal most of it and get some stuff like across the states competition in.

Still, that misses the point: its' not really about what Romney will do. It's about the difference in terms of longer term consequences.

HAHAH there is no difference between Obama and Romney. If Obamacare was popular, Romney would be boasting that he was the one who originally came up with it. Romney just says what he thinks people want to hear. He doesn't care about repealing Obamacare, he cares about getting elected.

Besides if Romney wanted our vote, he'd wouldn't have lied, and cheated at the RNC to shut us out. Not only does he not deserve our vote, he deserves to lose. Bush = Obama = Romney. Goldman Sachs (D) vs. Goldman Sachs (R)... you get the drift... oh wait you don't....
 
Johnson is pro-choice.

Here is a source that contradicts,

He opposes late term or partial birth abortion and signed legislation as governor outlawing the procedure in New Mexico. He has stated multiple times that he supports parental notification laws and counseling. He has also stated that he opposes government funding for abortions. These beliefs were stated in the South Carolina debate and in a CSPAN interview during the presidential campaign.

Among the various items used during his 2012 campaign was Our America Initiative. On that website, Governor Johnson states that abortion rights were not something dealt with in the constitution and should therefore be dealt with at the state level. He stated that the Roe vs. Wade decision has expanded the reach of the Federal government into areas of society never envisioned in the Constitution and should be revisited. Once Roe vs Wade is overturned, the abortion decision should be returned to the states. This viewpoint is echoed on his campaign website, where he affirms his pro-life stance and states that government should be neutral on personal beliefs.

www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Governor/New_Mexico/Gary_Johnson/Views/Abortion/

I will never vote for a person that is pro-choice.

Do you hate us for our freedom? :(
 
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