Vote.

[phill4paul]

But what if they are not preordained?

Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time.

I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

Don't give a shit one way or the other. Strife is forth-coming. And since "voting doesn't matter" that which I vote for shouldn't concern anyone.

 

[osan]

Obviously "our" side, while having all the weapons, are clearly afraid to actually do anything with them in the face of gale force winds of tyranny, and since carefully husbanded and guarded weapons are no weapons at all, this move is the only self defense move I can think of.

One step at a time, pal. I believe the issue between the so-called "left" and everyone else must first be settled. I believe they need to be put in their places because they have no intentions of ever respecting those who do not align with them unquestioningly. This is pretty serious shit and it is very immediate. The rest must wait until this matter is cleared up. Think of it as political triage or a sort, identifying and acting upon priorities. Treat the more immediate threat first, then move on.

I would also point out that if the left goes apey, and it's likely they will not in sufficiency to be corrected as I deem necessary to make a deep change in the fabric of American cultural attitudes, some number of Americans that have been heretofore reticent to employ their arms as you note may come around to a better attitude as a matter of necessity in defense of themselves. They may not. My hope is anorexic and at the edge of death, but until it dies, I will hang on to it.

Ideally, they left makes serious war on us and we correct them in great numbers. I dare not hope too strongly for such an outcome that is so necessary as a first step in cleaning the political gene pool. Shame on us all and our forbears as well for having allowed things to come to this miserable pass, but here we are and if we are serious about a better future, this is the bitter we must eat. In. My. Opinion.

Reason and decency have been abandoned by a proportion of the American people far too great to be simply accepted and ignored as statistical "noise". Not only are the lefties, or whatever you wish to call them, irrational and largely disgusting as human beings, more importantly they are dangerous and openly stating their intentions to do great harm to the entire nation. If that is not sufficient for deep and non-equivocating correction, then what is, assuming they initiate violence?

We're probably doomed to a socialist future of pure hell, but you never know. It ain't over 'til it's over. The American people may surprise us.

 

[Anti Federalist]

But what if they are not preordained?

Likely? Perhaps not. But consider this: if they are not, your actions contribute to what seems clearly a lesser evil. If they are, you've lost nothing but a few minutes of your time.

I believe that slim chance renders the effort worth the while. If Democrats regain one or both houses, bet your ass they will wage a campaign of retribution on the rest of us. Their bitter hatred is their weakness and is no joke. Granting them access to the levers of state would be madness. Setting them upon the American people would drive us to either fire the first shot or capitulate. Either way, we lose. Keep them outside in the cold, drive their hatred beyond their weak-tea limits so they make first move.

This.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If'n as many say hear it don't matter, or that you should do one or the other for strategical purposes, then I'll cast my lot. Who cares, right? Doesn't matter. The voting machines are controlled by Israelis' and the Bilderburg pick the candidates. Will I take my 91 year old dad and 87 year old mom out to early vote? Yes. Yes, I will. I'm giddy about it. But, in the end, we will have much fun, go out and eat after, and call it a good day.

Sounds like a nice day out with mom and dad.

Tell them I said hello.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Defeating them in November is, I suspect, more likely to drive the "left" to the extremes needed to get the rest of us out of complacency. I could be mistaken, but putting those cockroach wannabes back into power is likely not the good path forward. I understand your approach, but do not think it would work as you believe. We had eight years of Obama and his horde of vile dullard criminals in power. What did Americans do? Nothing. It is not the way. Defeating them, thus driving them to such rage that they fire the first shot so that we can fire the last, all the while denying them access to their means of putting the screws to decent people.

I no longer see any reasonable likelihood that we are able to resolve these deep divisions without bloodshed. The "left" is marching on the sovereign rights of everyone who is not them, openly stating their intentions to the world as to what they will do with those unaligned with them. Therefore, I say feed their bitter hatred until they attack so that we may, in defense of what decency remains to us, destroy them once and hopefully for all. I know this is all very dramatic sounding, but the choice seems clear: eliminate them or capitulate to them. Firing the first shot is not the way for "us", so they must be given the incentive to do so, that we may fire the last.

Rather that those of the "leftish" persuasion got some sense, but this is highly unlikely. Therefore, they should be destroyed for they represent a very real existential threat to the shred-remnants of human freedom.

I remember reading a quote from Jefferson Davis somewhere that in effect said that next time we should let them secede but I can't find it now.

We need them to fire the first shots so it is best to drive them to it through political victory if we can, our side starting the revolt would put us at a great disadvantage so that should only be our last resort.

If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Reason and decency have been abandoned by a proportion of the American people far too great to be simply accepted and ignored as statistical "noise". Not only are the lefties, or whatever you wish to call them, irrational and largely disgusting as human beings, more importantly they are dangerous and openly stating their intentions to do great harm to the entire nation. If that is not sufficient for deep and non-equivocating correction, then what is, assuming they initiate violence?

Bolsheviks with Jacobin tendencies.

I have no doubt that, given the chance, they would happily rally around a modern day Robespierre and march off into the countryside and kill anybody that represents the "Old Order".

That's you and me.

 

[osan]

Don't give a shit one way or the other. Strife is forth-coming. And since "voting doesn't matter" that which I vote for shouldn't concern anyone.

I'm not clear on what it is about which you do not give a shit.

 

[TheTexan]

If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

Let's just get a wall up first ok then we'll talk

 

[TheTexan]

It warms my heart to see people here so passionate about voting

I think I'm making a difference here

 

[Danke]

Best view of Texass:

 

[Danke]

 

[osan]

Bolsheviks with Jacobin tendencies.

I have no doubt that, given the chance, they would happily rally around a modern day Robespierre and march off into the countryside and kill anybody that represents the "Old Order".

That's you and me.

Exactly, which is why I say deny them the capacity to employ the power of the state against us. It's the immediate threat that must be neutralized first, then go on to other issues. Let them go insane with bitterness and hatred so they abandon the last vestiges of intelligence and attack. That is all the pretext needed to cull their ranks and put them back in their places.

Or would we prefer to hand everything to them on a silver platter?

Things are very much more serious than many people see, much less understand and appreciate. Stopping them from getting in should be paramount. Folks need to set aside nonsense and impractical attitudes for at least this short while. There's really nothing to lose, whereas there's plenty of dire risks in not voting. I don't like the notion of voting in general. Those things to which voting is applied seem to me to be mostly anti-freedom in their basic nature. But this is the hand we have been dealt. Use the corrupted system to minimize or possibly even reverse the deterioration in our general circumstances at the hands of these devils. I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

 

[TheTexan]

Exactly, which is why I say deny them the capacity to employ the power of the state against us. It's the immediate threat that must be neutralized first, then go on to other issues. Let them go insane with bitterness and hatred so they abandon the last vestiges of intelligence and attack. That is all the pretext needed to cull their ranks and put them back in their places.

Or would we prefer to hand everything to them on a silver platter?

Things are very much more serious than many people see, much less understand and appreciate. Stopping them from getting in should be paramount. Folks need to set aside nonsense and impractical attitudes for at least this short while. There's really nothing to lose, whereas there's plenty of dire risks in not voting. I don't like the notion of voting in general. Those things to which voting is applied seem to me to be mostly anti-freedom in their basic nature. But this is the hand we have been dealt. Use the corrupted system to minimize or possibly even reverse the deterioration in our general circumstances at the hands of these devils. I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

So now Osan is pro-voting and Matt Collins is anti-voting?

I see things as being so bad and teetering, that we need to cut the shit and start using that which is available to us.

I agree with this statement 100%

 

[RonZeplin]

If we gain enough power we should expel a few deep blue states until the rest secede or revolt.

Expel New York, then deport Trump, Giuliani & Javanka. MAGA

 

[nobody's_hero]

I didn't vote in 2016 so I'm gonna ask the poll workers for 2 cards this year.




Of course, I'll probably have to tell them I'm a democrat to get them.

 

[osan]

I didn't vote in 2016 so I'm gonna ask the poll workers for 2 cards this year.




Of course, I'll probably have to tell them I'm a democrat to get them.

Tell them you're a family of dead gypsies and you'll probably get a dozen.

 

[phill4paul]

I'm not clear on what it is about which you do not give a shit.

Whether it is pre-ordained or whether it isn't.

 

[jkr]

You need to point out all the ways the Demoncrats want to kill her, start with death panels.

Well, she hears that everyday.... thus the Enigma

 

[jkr]

Let's just get a wall up first ok then we'll talk

They fly them in over the wall I've seen it personally

 

[osan]

Whether it is pre-ordained or whether it isn't.

But do you care about the quality of your life?

If things are preordained, and I doubt they are in any fatalistic sense beyond our control, then we're probably all screwed to the barn door. But on assumption that we are indeed yet able to alter courses, why not make the effort?

I see no reason to just hand everything over to these dangerous, screaming, tantrum-pitching, ill-bred, mentally unstable brats. If they take the day in November, you may live to regret not having lifted a finger to stop them because when they have the mental advantage of having the imprimatur of the "state" behind them, there comes with that all manner of materially very real badness that they can then foist upon us, not the least of which is the military and police. They can wreck us economically as Obama made effort. There's nearly no end to the mischief they could get into - dangerous mischief.

Just imagine the antifa crowd being actively protected by Congress. Don't be too fast to laugh that off. Thirty years ago, how many people would have thought it possible that we as a people could degenerate into that which we now see everywhere?

If you're going to just give up, why go with half-measures? If the day comes I choose to surrender, I'm eating a 12 ga. lunch.

Hell, I will fight those bastard infants just for the thrill of pushing back against evil in refusal of their stocks in trade. I have no intention of simply allowing them to run roughshod over me and mine. I've lived long enough and have little to lose, most especially fear. Those people are so pugnacious, so repellant, I find myself spoiling for a chance to set them straight, so I'm not the guy with whom they want to play and I don't think that I am anywhere nearly being alone in this.

Buck up, pal - get good and pissed and stand to be counted.

Or not.

Your choice, as always.