Gary Johnson Vote Gary Johnson and not Obama,Romney or write in Ron Paul

[speciallyblend]

very simple concept folks, poll to get gary on the debate stage ,then nov 6 vote for obama/romney 2012 police state or write in mickey mouse or ron paul. If we get on the debate stage i think everyone here will have a change of heart. it cannot hurt to poll for gary .

 

[erowe1]

seriously? please wake up.

A wise stoner once said:

why would you quit a game in the 7th inning or in the 3rd quarter? You negative nancies would say no i would never quit a game until it is over but then they come here and quit before the game is over. if you quit before the game is over which you are .then your a quitter.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...e-nomination&p=4458803&viewfull=1#post4458803

And now, here you are, quitting before the game is over.

Anybody who was saying "It's all about the delegates!" a month ago, is obligated by the laws of logic to say, "It's all about the electoral college!" today.

ETA: By the way, welcome back.

 

[speciallyblend]

I am going to Vote for GJ, I am not insisting anyone else does. In my opinion is he not only "the best we have" but he is a pretty good candidate, has strong values and supports Ron Paul himself! I feel with what we just been through GJ its a miracle we have someone like GJ runing, its a pretty lucky scenario if one looks at it the right way.

The establishment takes out Ron Paul, in my opinion: Voting for GJ not only satisfies my conscience but will show the powers that be; that for most of us, its about the message and not the man. I know its a stupid Fantasy but if GJ was to somehow get RP as his VP I would be excited and happy to vote for that ticket.

I have seen GJ put on the spot before and thought he handled himself pretty well.

we must demand they(rpf'ers/dp'ers) understand they can poll and vote, 2 different things but i can promise everyone here. If they poll to get gary on the debate stage. I think many will change their minds on who they will vote for by nov 6th. polling to get on debates and voting are 2 different subjects. let us get gary in the debates!

 

[speciallyblend]

A wise stoner once said:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...e-nomination&p=4458803&viewfull=1#post4458803

And now, here you are, quitting before the game is over.

Anybody who was saying "It's all about the delegates!" a month ago, is obligated by the laws of logic to say, "It's all about the electoral college!" today.

ETA: By the way, welcome back.

the gop convention nominee game is over, if Ron Paul does not run indy or join a ticket. Then there is no game for a write-in. colorado is not on your electoral map, ron paul will not be counted at all unless he was a certified candidate in colorado. He is not.

thanks for welcome back , i do want to say we are talking polling here not voting so no reason we cannot get gary in the debates. There should be no argument getting gary on the debates. they are before theelection, but i can promise you if we get him in the debates many here will reconsider who they vote for especially if we can get rp to join ticket either way. I see big things happening if we get gary on the debate stage nothing to do with nov 6th

 

[PierzStyx]

Some quotes that explain in words better than mine why I will not vote for anyone but Ron Paul.

"We engage in the election the same as in any other principle: you are to vote for good men, and if you do not do this it is a sin: to vote for wicked men, it would be sin. Choose the good and refuse the evil. Men of false principles have preyed upon us like wolves upon helpless lambs. Damn the rod of tyranny; curse it. Let every man use his liberties according to the Constitution. Don’t fear man or devil; electioneer with all people, male and female, and exhort them to do the thing that is right. We want a President of the U.S., not a party President, but a President of the whole people; for a party President disfranchises the opposite party. Have a President who will maintain every man in his rights.” (Hyrum Smith, Source: History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.15, p.323)

"I will tell you whom to vote for: we will vote for the man who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, the man who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for a statesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a Whig, a Democrat, a Barnburner, a Republican, a New Light or anything else." ( Brigham Young, "Discourses of Brigham Young" pg. 358)


You see supporting Ron Paul was never a matter of beating Obama. It has always been about voting for the candidate who was right. Johnson is not as bad as either Obama or Romney. But that is not a reason for me to support him. I can understand why others would vote for him. And I support you in that. In any other year I might vote for him. But in a year where I have a chance to vote for someone like Ron Paul, even if it is in a uncounted write in, I cannot do anything less. This year I don't have to compromise my beliefs to choose a politician to support. I can vote for Ron Paul. And I will.

 

[erowe1]

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[erowe1]

the gop convention nominee game is over

First of all, who says it is? Anything can still happen to Romney between now and November. And RP will be waiting on deck!

And besides, it was never just about getting a party nomination, it was always about winning the WH.

And to win the WH....

It's all about the electoral college!

 

[speciallyblend]

Some quotes that explain in words better than mine why I will not vote for anyone but Ron Paul.

"We engage in the election the same as in any other principle: you are to vote for good men, and if you do not do this it is a sin: to vote for wicked men, it would be sin. Choose the good and refuse the evil. Men of false principles have preyed upon us like wolves upon helpless lambs. Damn the rod of tyranny; curse it. Let every man use his liberties according to the Constitution. Don’t fear man or devil; electioneer with all people, male and female, and exhort them to do the thing that is right. We want a President of the U.S., not a party President, but a President of the whole people; for a party President disfranchises the opposite party. Have a President who will maintain every man in his rights.” (Hyrum Smith, Source: History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.15, p.323)

"I will tell you whom to vote for: we will vote for the man who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, the man who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for a statesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a Whig, a Democrat, a Barnburner, a Republican, a New Light or anything else." ( Brigham Young, "Discourses of Brigham Young" pg. 358)


You see supporting Ron Paul was never a matter of beating Obama. It has always been about voting for the candidate who was right. Johnson is not as bad as either Obama or Romney. But that is not a reason for me to support him. I can understand why others would vote for him. And I support you in that. In any other year I might vote for him. But in a year where I have a chance to vote for someone like Ron Paul, even if it is in a uncounted write in, I cannot do anything less. This year I don't have to compromise my beliefs to choose a politician to support. I can vote for Ron Paul. And I will.

polling for debates and voting are 2 different things so your post does not apply to what i am asking you do to! i strongly suggest if you have the power to get gary in the debates through polling. Then you might see the power in considering a vote change on nov 6th either way we get gary in debates we win!

 

[erowe1]

polling for debates and voting are 2 different things so your post does not sapply to what i am asking you do to!

What are you asking us to do? Get polled by a polling company? How do we do that?

 

[speciallyblend]

First of all, who says it is? Anything can still happen to Romney between now and November. And RP will be waiting on deck!

And besides, it was never just about getting a party nomination, it was always about winning the WH.

And to win the WH....

It's all about the electoral college!

good luck with that scenario but still does not apply to what i am saksing you do to do unless debates are after elections? i am sking you to poll for gary. you can vote mickey mouse on nov 6th for all i care. polling to get gary on the stage to expose obmaney is not voting on nov 6th.

 

[speciallyblend]

What are you asking us to do? Get polled by a polling company? How do we do that?

you start supporting gary help him by making calls hopefully you get polled. You answer the polls ,internet polls or calling. you can vote for whoever nov 6th, you support gary then on nov 6th stab him in the back like they did ron paul, be like romney folks and we can get gary on the stage

i am being a lil sarcastic but you stand with the liberty movement and who can be an effective mouth piece in 2012 until nov 6th.

you should work at the best strategy to get gary on the stage. then do whatever you want on nov 6th!

 

[Eagles' Wings]

Some quotes that explain in words better than mine why I will not vote for anyone but Ron Paul.

"We engage in the election the same as in any other principle: you are to vote for good men, and if you do not do this it is a sin: to vote for wicked men, it would be sin. Choose the good and refuse the evil. Men of false principles have preyed upon us like wolves upon helpless lambs. Damn the rod of tyranny; curse it. Let every man use his liberties according to the Constitution. Don’t fear man or devil; electioneer with all people, male and female, and exhort them to do the thing that is right. We want a President of the U.S., not a party President, but a President of the whole people; for a party President disfranchises the opposite party. Have a President who will maintain every man in his rights.” (Hyrum Smith, Source: History of the Church, Vol.6, Ch.15, p.323)

"I will tell you whom to vote for: we will vote for the man who will sustain the principles of civil and religious liberty, the man who knows the most and who has the best heart and brain for a statesman; and we do not care a farthing whether he is a Whig, a Democrat, a Barnburner, a Republican, a New Light or anything else." ( Brigham Young, "Discourses of Brigham Young" pg. 358)


You see supporting Ron Paul was never a matter of beating Obama. It has always been about voting for the candidate who was right. Johnson is not as bad as either Obama or Romney. But that is not a reason for me to support him. I can understand why others would vote for him. And I support you in that. In any other year I might vote for him. But in a year where I have a chance to vote for someone like Ron Paul, even if it is in a uncounted write in, I cannot do anything less. This year I don't have to compromise my beliefs to choose a politician to support. I can vote for Ron Paul. And I will.

Three cheers for this post, Pierz. Voting for Ron Paul will be a joy.

 

[speciallyblend]

Three cheers for this post, Pierz. Voting for Ron Paul will be a joy.

so you would perfer voting for ron paul on nov 6th instead of saying you support gary to the polls if they calll you then voting ron paul nov 6th. we can get gary on the debate stage if we all work together for liberty. you can vote for oprah or ron paul on nov 6th polling and voting are 2 different things. mislead be a romney supporter mislead!

i shouldn't have to explain this strategy it should be self -evident. hopefully that was the correct word to say.

 

[Acala]

Got some bad news for you. The Republican establishment would rather lose to the Democrats than win with a liberty or Constitutional andidate - or even allow real liberty reform in the party. Why? Because the Democrats will preserve the corrupt machine so the Republicans can use it when it is their turn. A liberty adminstration will dismantle the machine.

And, by the way, what makes any of you think that Gary Johnson would be allowed in the debate? Debate rules are even looser then onvention rules. Does anyone doubt that the MSM would follow instructions from the major parties?

 

[PierzStyx]

polling for debates and voting are 2 different things so your post does not apply to what i am asking you do to! i strongly suggest if you have the power to get gary in the debates through polling. Then you might see the power in considering a vote change on nov 6th either way we get gary in debates we win!

Well its good I wasn't talking to you but tuggy, now wasn't it?

 

[erowe1]

you start supporting gary help him by making calls

Wouldn't that effort be better spent calling national electors for Romney and Obama and convincing them to vote for Ron Paul in November?

We can do this! We can raise money and send them DVD's with all of our best Youtube videos on them. All we need is for something like 268 of them to figure out what the right thing for them to do is!

It's all about the electoral college!

 

[speciallyblend]

Well its good I wasn't talking to you but tuggy, now wasn't it?

you do not have to be an asshole about it. I was kindly suggesting and offering you reality. thanks for being an asshole. folks like you are why i left rpf. i try to be civil and yet you say that BULLSHIT F OFF! I am talking common sense do you even understand the difference of polling vs voting and that debates happen before your write in . i told you you can write in ron paul or mickey mouse for all i care but you don't have to be an asshole about it. If i wanted rpf bullshit i would talk to romney supporters!

it is a simple concept 1+1=2 polling to get gary on the debate stage is not nov 6th! if a hippie like me can get this simple concept why cannot you?? i wasn't being mean to you but you seem to have this urge to be mean so i will follow thru! i wasn't attacking you, but if you truly have something to say i can give you my address in colorado.

 

[speciallyblend]

Wouldn't that effort be better spent calling national electors for Romney and Obama and convincing them to vote for Ron Paul in November?

We can do this! We can raise money and send them DVD's with all of our best Youtube videos on them. All we need is for something like 268 of them to figure out what the right thing for them to do is!

It's all about the electoral college!

now your really dreaming no i disagree my time will be better spent with someone on the ballot that can get on the debate stage. I know you want to continue your dream of ron paul winning but i disagree with your route 100% it will; not happen! so i guess we agree to disagree. colorado is not even on your electoral map becuase they will not count write-ins unless certified july 2012 passed. You have a great dream though!

 

[ZENemy]

Im not going to tell anyone what to do, I am not going to tell anyone they are wrong, being in this movment has really helped me grow especially in respecting other peoples decisions. Nearly every day on this forum I learn something new and go away with a new perspective on personal freedom. That being said, IF your mind is open just a crack, take a look at these videos, I was like most here too; I did not wanna hear anything he had to say, thats EXACTLY how anti Ron Paul people are. If your mind is open, listen to the man, then make a decision. IF I had to choose right now between GJ and Rand, I would Choose GJ, sorry, that's the way I feel and until I see action and not TALK from Rand (after his endorsement of the Demon) that will not change.

 

[erowe1]

now your really dreaming no i disagree my time will be better spent with someone on the ballot that can get on the debate stage. I know you want to continue your dream of ron paul winning but i disagree with your route 100% it will; not happen! so i guess we agree to disagree. colorado is not even on your electoral map becuase they will not count write-ins unless certified july 2012 passed. You have a great dream though!

Quitter.

Careful SB, this kind of defeatist talk will get you banned here.