VOTE FOR THE NEXT MONEYBOMB DATE: 5th of November OR 11/11/11?

[orenbus]

A week long drive could certainly be good. You need a marketing gimmick to promote. Having a week long drive and then advertising the 5th of November could work.

One of the key differences between Tea Party/11-5 and our money bombs is the $100 pledge on the websites. Set a high pledge to guide how much we need.

I agree with this we need videos promoting the idea that everyone should donate $100. Like this one;

[video=google;-3199712293147853545]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3199712293147853545[/video]

 

[lucent]

I am worried about November 5th exactly because Occupy movement seems to want to use it. The bank withdrawal day is that day as well.

 

[1836]

I am worried about November 5th exactly because Occupy movement seems to want to use it. The bank withdrawal day is that day as well.

The hell with them. It's our day, and whether or not there is a moneybomb then, the most significant event to happen in recent years on November 5th was when Ron Paul rocked the establishment on November 5th, 2007.

If nothing else, we can still be proud of that as one of the seminal points in our liberty movement.

 

[lucent]

I agree with this we need videos promoting the idea that everyone should donate $100. Like this one;

[video=google;-3199712293147853545]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3199712293147853545[/video]

Whatever we chose, we need a website.

Does Lyman still own thisnovember5th.com? Would he be willing to turn it over?

 

[Kludge]

I am worried about November 5th exactly because Occupy movement seems to want to use it. The bank withdrawal day is that day as well.

That sounds good! Why withdraw when you can transfer to RP2012? Who're our sign-men on the ground? Change your signs!

 

[McDermit]

I disagree. A high number is a goal to reach. Without a goal, people's motivation is dampened.

Yeah, how'd that work out?

Motivation is dampened when a huge goal is set and then we miss it by $4 million. We're better off promoting it without a set $ goal. The number is arbitrary, and when the goal isn't met, it's disappointing and could lead to people questioning RP's ability to continue raising funds at the level needed to compete. When you fall short after promoting a goal publicly, it doesn't look good.

Look at it as the media or anyone watching from the sidelines will see it. If we do $100 pledges, and raise $3mil with no set goal, the money bomb is a success. If we request $10mil and raise $3mil, it's a flop.

 

[lucent]

Yeah, how'd that work out?

Motivation is dampened when a huge goal is set and then we miss it by $4 million. We're better off promoting it without a set $ goal. The number is arbitrary, and when the goal isn't met, it's disappointing and could lead to people questioning RP's ability to continue raising funds at the level needed to compete. When you fall short after promoting a goal publicly, it doesn't look good.

Look at it as the media or anyone watching from the sidelines will see it. If we do $100 pledges, and raise $3mil with no set goal, the money bomb is a success. If we request $10mil and raise $3mil, it's a flop.

The goal of November 5th was $10 million. We missed it by $6 million. Was that a failure?

 

[McDermit]

Keep in mind that some supporters will donate on the 5th for nostalgic/sentimental reasons whether there is a concerted moneybomb effort or not. I've seen people on here say months ago that they would donate on the 5th, and we still have people showing up to rallies in the V masks. It's part of our history.

 

[lucent]

Which is why I recommend that if we use November 5th, use nostalgia to drive it. Reference 2007 more than V for Vendetta. People who want to make V for Vendetta themes can, but the website itself shouldn't.

 

[Spanish for Ron]

Hi from Spain!

- Choose 5th of November if you really want 6+ millions raised and gain huge momentum among young people, and if you think Ron Paul's problem with having difficulties with neocons has very little to do with what day grassroots have their moneybomb, and much more to do with Ron's responses to questions on foreign policy (which I don't complain about, but he obviously doesn't care much about selling the message in an easy way for neocons).

- Choose veteran's day if you want the average moneybomb, get less momentum and expectations among the grassroots, no tv news (so neocons will not know anyway about the veteran's stuff), and you don't mind that Ron Paul is still not acceptable among neocons because of his own responses.

To me it's very clear: 5th of November and Tea Party. And have Ron Paul make some kind of event/speech at Veterans day in their support with a fraction of the money raised

 

[lucent]

If we do November 5th, we need thisnovember5th.com which Lyman owns.

 

[McDermit]

Trevor can't/won't work with us on this.

OnNovember5th.com is available...

 

[lucent]

Trevor can't/won't work with us on this.

OnNovember5th.com is available...

He can sell us a domain.

There's a better domain IMO available than that, but I don't want to post it on the forum in case a troll registers it.

 

[McDermit]

He could also have sold us his email list.

 

[lucent]

He could also have sold us his email list.

Yep. He could have. We can't rely on him.

 

[lucent]

My prediction as of now is that November 5th and 11th will both be failures. The people passionate about one or the other fight amongst themselves instead of taking the lead for those like myself who are unsure. All the time they spend fighting is all the time that people aren't promoting.

The person behind BTO has been absent from the conversation, he originally wanted to use vetsforpaul.com owned by Gusman(?) who doesn't seem motivated to let dusman to use his money bomb architecture he has built up. The whole thing is a clusterf***. Considering how few days are left for both dates, it is going to hurt it.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

I think the 5th and 11th are too soon to go back to the well. There's another CNN debate on the 15th that would be a good day. That's still a little soon, but Thanksgiving limits our options. Also, that sets up nicely for Dec. 16th a month later, which seems like an essential date for the next MB.

 

[lucent]

November 15th 1777 - Articles of Confederation adopted by Continental Congress

 

[McDermit]

A push from the 5th through 11th would eliminate infighting.

And with 5th-11th, we could all try to get into local veteran's day parades (many are held on the 6th or 7th) and promote it at veteran events. Locally, we are already doing a "sign wave on wheels" float for the largest parades in the area... It'd be easy to incorporate moneybomb signage.

 

[lucent]

A push from the 5th through 11th would eliminate infighting.

And with 5th-11th, we could all try to get into local veteran's day parades (many are held on the 6th or 7th) and promote it at veteran events. Locally, we are already doing a "sign wave on wheels" float for the largest parades in the area... It'd be easy to incorporate moneybomb signage.

I agree, it would. You would need to advertise the beginning of the event which is November 5th.