ericthethe
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Weak attempt at saving face. He called you out on your idiocy and you have nothing more than a pathetic "troll hunting" excuse.
Virgin Islands Explained (Did Paul win? Not really, but kind of.)
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Weak attempt at saving face. He called you out on your idiocy and you have nothing more than a pathetic "troll hunting" excuse.
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Maybe even 4 Alternates! Places 11, 12, 13 and 14 are tied with 15 votes each.
I dont know which method they use to break the tie. There are 2 Paul delegates, one Santorum and Gingrich delegate tied.
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Maybe even 4 Alternates! Places 11, 12, 13 and 14 are tied with 15 votes each.
Yes you are correct.
It was Late/early and I didn't catch the tie. We could get 4 though.
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Why is it surprising that turnout is low? They cannot vote in the actual November elections.
Just that it's such a low percentage of the population. 0.05 percent voted.
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Awesome! Congrats for the win.
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Jack Hunter acknowledges the good doctor's win on YT as well while mocking at the MSM at the same time.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/03/...g-ron-paul-winning-u-s-virgin-islands-caucus/
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/03/...g-ron-paul-winning-u-s-virgin-islands-caucus/
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If I could not vote for President in November, I really wouldn't care which person won the GOP nod or the Dem nod. I am glad some are of a different opinion, obviously, but the territories are not well-known for high turnout.
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There was no straw poll there. They only voted for delegates, but on the ballot, people ran as a delegate for a candidate so a vote for the delegate was considered a vote for the candidate. So, Ron did win the popular vote, except for one uncommitted delegate that switched to Romney AFTER he already became delegate. Some may want to award his numbers to Romney which would give him the popular vote as well. This of course, makes no sense cause that guy wasn't under Romney's name on the ballot. Ron Paul got the most votes.
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Meanwhile the VI GOP has updated their results post on their site:
VI GOP 2012 Caucus Results (After Ballot Verification of Challenged Ballots, Unofficial)
PLEASE NOTE IN THE VI OUR RULES PROVIDE FOR THE ELECTION OF DELEGATES IN A PARTY CAUCUS. EVERY ONE WHO VOTES CAN CHOOSE DELEGATES (UP TO SIX) WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE PLEDGED TO THE SAME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. SINCE GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY HAD ONLY THREE CONVENTION DELEGATES RUNNING UNDER HIS NAME THAT GAVE VOTERS A CHOICE TO VOTE FOR OTHER COMMITTED OR NON-COMMITTED CANDIDATES. IT APPEARS THAT OUT OF RESPECT FOR CONGRESSMAN PAUL’S CAMPAIGN THERE WERE EXTRA VOTES TO GIVE TO OTHER CANDIDATES OR NON-COMMITTED CANDIDATES.
ALTHOUGH DR. PAUL RECEIVED ONLY ONE DELEGATE, HIS TEAM RECEIVED UP TO THREE ALTERNATE DELEGATE SLOTS AND WILL BE WELL REPRESENTED IN OUR SMALL DELEGATION.
The first six highest vote recipients are delegates. All are elected at large for the U.S. Virgin Islands
Territory Wide Totals:
Delegates
April Newland 42 (28 STX, 14 STT) Romney
Gwendolyn Brady 37 (34 STX, 3 STT) Uncommitted
Warren Bruce Cole 31 (28 STX, 3 STT) Uncommitted (Pledged to Romney after the vote totals)
John A. Clendenin 32 (26 STX, 6 STT) Romney
Robert Max Schanfarber 29 (11 STX, 18 STT) Paul
Luis R. Martinez 30 (27 STX, 3 STT) Romney
Alternate Delegates
Joshua A. Schanfarber 21 (5 STX, 16 STT) Paul
Humberto O’Neal 20 (19 STX, 1 STT) Uncommitted
Geoffrey Wolfe 18 (5 STX, 13 STT) Paul
George Blackhall 16 (8, STX, 8 STT) Uncommitted
Dwain E. Ford 16 (13 STX, 3 STT) Gingrich
Tie Breaker required as Alternate Delegate #6 TBD
Vince Danet 15 (10 STX, 5 STT) Santorum
Roseann Wells 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul
Michael Wilson 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul
[...]
http://vigop.com/2012/03/vi-gop-2012-caucus-results-coming-soon/
To be honest, it is possibble that Romney had slightly more VI voters on his side, but we don't know and will probably never know. That's because every voter had six votes. We don't know (and probably will never know) how many used this option or how many decided to vote for only one (or two or three...) delegate candidate. And I presume that in the last case the other five votes the voter had simply went "down the drain", so that they weren't accumulated on the one delegate candidate he voted for. But even that we don't know, maybe Maxi can tell us.
VI GOP 2012 Caucus Results (After Ballot Verification of Challenged Ballots, Unofficial)
PLEASE NOTE IN THE VI OUR RULES PROVIDE FOR THE ELECTION OF DELEGATES IN A PARTY CAUCUS. EVERY ONE WHO VOTES CAN CHOOSE DELEGATES (UP TO SIX) WHO MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE PLEDGED TO THE SAME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. SINCE GOVERNOR MITT ROMNEY HAD ONLY THREE CONVENTION DELEGATES RUNNING UNDER HIS NAME THAT GAVE VOTERS A CHOICE TO VOTE FOR OTHER COMMITTED OR NON-COMMITTED CANDIDATES. IT APPEARS THAT OUT OF RESPECT FOR CONGRESSMAN PAUL’S CAMPAIGN THERE WERE EXTRA VOTES TO GIVE TO OTHER CANDIDATES OR NON-COMMITTED CANDIDATES.
ALTHOUGH DR. PAUL RECEIVED ONLY ONE DELEGATE, HIS TEAM RECEIVED UP TO THREE ALTERNATE DELEGATE SLOTS AND WILL BE WELL REPRESENTED IN OUR SMALL DELEGATION.
The first six highest vote recipients are delegates. All are elected at large for the U.S. Virgin Islands
Territory Wide Totals:
Delegates
April Newland 42 (28 STX, 14 STT) Romney
Gwendolyn Brady 37 (34 STX, 3 STT) Uncommitted
Warren Bruce Cole 31 (28 STX, 3 STT) Uncommitted (Pledged to Romney after the vote totals)
John A. Clendenin 32 (26 STX, 6 STT) Romney
Robert Max Schanfarber 29 (11 STX, 18 STT) Paul
Luis R. Martinez 30 (27 STX, 3 STT) Romney
Alternate Delegates
Joshua A. Schanfarber 21 (5 STX, 16 STT) Paul
Humberto O’Neal 20 (19 STX, 1 STT) Uncommitted
Geoffrey Wolfe 18 (5 STX, 13 STT) Paul
George Blackhall 16 (8, STX, 8 STT) Uncommitted
Dwain E. Ford 16 (13 STX, 3 STT) Gingrich
Tie Breaker required as Alternate Delegate #6 TBD
Vince Danet 15 (10 STX, 5 STT) Santorum
Roseann Wells 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul
Michael Wilson 15 (2 STX, 13 STT) Paul
[...]
http://vigop.com/2012/03/vi-gop-2012-caucus-results-coming-soon/
To be honest, it is possibble that Romney had slightly more VI voters on his side, but we don't know and will probably never know. That's because every voter had six votes. We don't know (and probably will never know) how many used this option or how many decided to vote for only one (or two or three...) delegate candidate. And I presume that in the last case the other five votes the voter had simply went "down the drain", so that they weren't accumulated on the one delegate candidate he voted for. But even that we don't know, maybe Maxi can tell us.
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